Quade Cooper Stuffs a Career

[Lance Free]

... surely he's given his side to the ARU by now.

It would be difficult for him to give his side of the story to the ARU considering that he is adopting the Sgt. Schultz defence.

He obviously has a very astute lawyer. If anyone might successfully plead that his mind is tabula rasa, i.e., a complete blank, it would be young Quade.

Keep up the good work son. It's a poor circus that can't afford one clown.

Do you mean 'automatism' Bruce?

 

[Pfitzy]

Well, I think we can all agree on two things:

1) These two aren't going to get out of this any time soon

2) Quade Cooper should be jailed just for his stupid haircut

 

[Bruce Ross]

No, Lance, when I said that he "might successfully plead that his mind is tabula rasa, i.e., a complete blank," I wasn't trying to help think up a defence for him; there will have been an army of Brisbane lawyers already drafted in to assist with that. What I meant was that on the basis of past stupidity the kid seems to be an absolute airhead in general, not just on the night in question.

In any case, given that there is now alleged to have been a second late night rambler, a defence of automatism might be a trifle difficult to get up if the charges relate to larceny and sundry mayhem in concert with another.

 

[chief]

I really wonder if Cooper is the type of person who wears those gangster hats, that go like sideways on your head, that like everyone in America wears.

I read in the Sunday Mail today that Tony Dempsey is presiding over the Cooper case saying that he can't be sacked until proven guilty. Mind you I don't think the ARU or QRU will hesitate once Cooper fulfills them of the true facts.

 

[Juan Cote]

Didn't Demmo say the same thing about Lote?

I wonder how that inquiry is going by the way....

 

[rugbywhisperer]

I thought he was resigning -

 

[HG]

I really wonder if Cooper is the type of person who wears those gangster hats, that go like sideways on your head, that like everyone in America wears.

I read in the Sunday Mail today that Tony Dempsey is presiding over the Cooper case saying that he can't be sacked until proven guilty. Mind you I don't think the ARU or QRU will hesitate once Cooper fulfills them of the true facts.

Your full of it Chief.
There is a lot more to the story. The ARU will be very careful as to how they play this one. As they or some of their staff may become implacted into the whole sorry sordid mess.

 

[straightshooter]

To be fair here guys - bloke obviously has some issues but the cornerstone of our system contemplates innocent until hanged I mean found guilty.

WE ALL have fallen foul of the system and either been caught or not.

Thing with Quade (and a lot of young wealthy players) is about making right choices and associations.

He may be even innocent :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 

[TOCC]

well i suppose it could come down to the money factor as well, especially in the eyes of JON.

Lets say the ARU sack Quade, QLD loses its two playmakers in the offseason and start off next season like headless chooks(no different to 2007-2009 really). QLD once again performse badly in the S14 and in turn a player exodus to Melbourne occurs again.

Now i think the JON recognises that Quade is essential if the Reds are to have any sort of revival in 2010, by sacking Quade he pretty much condems QLD to the doldrums. This means another year of falling interest in qld rugby on the back of the poorly performing Reds, JON understands that people like to watch there team winning.

On the other hand you look at the damage that Quades alleged crime has done to the code, IMO it has done very little, the general public has become accustomed to sports starts messing up, it may have a minor impact on the sponsors and fans.

JON wont sack Quade, Quade will take a pay cut and a severe reprimand with a increased load of community activity.

 

[todd4]

If Quade doesn't get sacked maybe the Reds might look at playing him at no. 7. He seems to have been honing his pilfering skills.....

 

[Sully]

Well it was only a matter of time till the jokes started. After all it's the Australian way.

You're right TOCC if we lose Cooper as well as Barnes we're well and truly stuffed. I can't see how the ARU or QRU can act before he fronts court. But I'm a sparky not a Lawyer type dude. I would love to hear the story. Could a Lawyer type dude explain to me why he can't just front up and tell his story? What stops him from telling his side of the story in the media?

 

[TOCC]

Well it was only a matter of time till the jokes started. After all it's the Australian way.

You're right TOCC if we lose Cooper as well as Barnes we're well and truly stuffed. I can't see how the ARU or QRU can act before he fronts court. But I'm a sparky not a Lawyer type dude. I would love to hear the story. Could a Lawyer type dude explain to me why he can't just front up and tell his story? What stops him from telling his side of the story in the media?

im not a lawyer either, but i believe it can create bias which is why its not allowed

 

[chief]

Oh yes, we should wait until July 2nd to take action. Then if they do fire him, we'll have plenty of time to get new decent flyhalf.

 

[Pfitzy]

I would love to hear the story. Could a Lawyer type dude explain to me why he can't just front up and tell his story? What stops him from telling his side of the story in the media?

Firstly, its probably a condition of his contract.

Secondly, TOCC is right: there are known cases in which public profile of a case is deemed by the courts to have unjustly weight the case in favour or against either side and therefore a just finding is unlikely because of preconception. I think they should air whatever laundry there is now before the season starts, because chief is right on the money.

 

[Cutter]

I would love to hear the story. Could a Lawyer type dude explain to me why he can't just front up and tell his story? What stops him from telling his side of the story in the media?

Firstly, its probably a condition of his contract.

Secondly, TOCC is right: there are known cases in which public profile of a case is deemed by the courts to have unjustly weight the case in favour or against either side and therefore a just finding is unlikely because of preconception. I think they should air whatever laundry there is now before the season starts, because chief is right on the money.

Are you a lawyer Nick?

 

[Cutter]

I really wonder if Cooper is the type of person who wears those gangster hats, that go like sideways on your head, that like everyone in America wears.

I read in the Sunday Mail today that Tony Dempsey is presiding over the Cooper case saying that he can't be sacked until proven guilty. Mind you I don't think the ARU or QRU will hesitate once Cooper fulfills them of the true facts.

Your full of it Chief.
There is a lot more to the story. The ARU will be very careful as to how they play this one. As they or some of their staff may become implacted into the whole sorry sordid mess.

HG what do you mean by this?

 

[Scarfman]

If Quade doesn't get sacked maybe the Reds might look at playing him at no. 7. He seems to have been honing his pilfering skills.....

nice work Todd. You'll do well around here.

 

[HG]

I really wonder if Cooper is the type of person who wears those gangster hats, that go like sideways on your head, that like everyone in America wears.

I read in the Sunday Mail today that Tony Dempsey is presiding over the Cooper case saying that he can't be sacked until proven guilty. Mind you I don't think the ARU or QRU will hesitate once Cooper fulfills them of the true facts.

Your full of it Chief.
There is a lot more to the story. The ARU will be very careful as to how they play this one. As they or some of their staff may become implacted into the whole sorry sordid mess.

HG what do you mean by this?

Sorry been away for a few days.
I can't go into details but to say that some prescription meds were given to Quade and some of the other boys by a team medic.

 

[Ash]

Joint statement on Quade Cooper
Quade Cooper - has committed to a personal development and counselling program
Friday, 18 December 2009

The QRU and ARU today issued the following joint statement concerning Quade Cooper:

Quade Cooper has been ordered to undergo an extensive personal development and counselling program before he will be considered for future selection by the Queensland Reds and Wallabies.

The action plan is aimed at addressing a number of off-field issues for Cooper this year and follows consultation between representatives from the Queensland Rugby Union, Australian Rugby Union and Rugby Union Players Association.

Cooper’s progress will be monitored and then reviewed in early February before any further decisions are made on his immediate playing future.

He will, at this stage, be permitted to resume training with the Reds in mid-January but with no guarantees about when he will return to playing.

Cooper also faces court in July following his arrest on the Gold Coast this month.

Having been charged, the issue will be referred to a disciplinary tribunal formed by QRU under the ARU Code of Conduct. However, the Rugby disciplinary tribunal has been placed on hold until the matter before the courts is resolved.

“The court process needs to take its course and Quade is entitled to the presumption of innocence,” said ARU High Performance General Manager David Nucifora.

“What we are talking about here in terms of personal development and counselling relates to the fact that Quade has had a number of off-field issues during the past year.

“The QRU and ARU agreed that collectively we need to impose on Quade an action plan that he must now adhere to as part of his ongoing employment, and Quade has agreed to make that commitment.

“We will not be going into the specifics of the program that has been put in place, but it is extensive.”

QRU CEO Jim Carmichael welcomed Cooper’s commitment to the jointly-devised program.

“Quade is a young man who has faced the cold reality that some off-field facets of his life could jeopardise his future unless he changes them,” Mr Carmichael said.

“Because he has accepted that responsibility and has committed to making the necessary change, we will help and support him in that – provided he continues to demonstrate that his commitment is genuine and ongoing.

“We all want to see Quade make the right choices in his life and this long term program of support and guidance is designed to help him do that.”

 

[TOCC]

“The court process needs to take its course and Quade is entitled to the presumption of innocence,” said ARU High Performance General Manager David Nucifora.

oh shucks... im blushing