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Where do they show the Doughty Shield standings?
QLD Premier Rugby 2015
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As far as I am aware, the standings are not shown anywhere..
Premier Reserve PColts 1st 2nd 3rd 4th C1 C2 W Total
University 33 23 44 30 29 24 7 34 37 22 283
Sunnybank 31 26 36 27 14 5 0 39 38 39 255
Brothers 31 40 31 30 36 12 0 32 29 0 241
Easts 38 25 27 17 24 13 26 26 20 0 216
GPS 12 22 28 15 22 20 17 16 23 21 196
Souths 22 8 5 33 30 24 0 5 0 0 127
Bond 28 37 16 0 0 0 0 30 0 0 111
Norths 5 5 6 0 29 0 0 14 0 28 87
Wests 9 5 5 26 8 11 15 -3 0 0 76
Logan 0 0 0 16 -4 0 0 0 25 -3 34
The above shows that Doughty rewards Clubs that have representation across all 10 competitions that go toward the Shield.
University and GPS are the only two clubs with such representation.
Sunnybank and Easts represented in 9.
Brothers and Wests in 8.
Souths in 7.
Norths in 6.
Bond and Logan in 4.
Where Clubs have two teams within the same competition (Easts in Colts 2, University in Colts 2 and 4th Grade), Doughty Shield points are allocated as per their highest team in that competition.
So, University runs out 12 teams across 10 competitions, whilst Easts run out 10 teams across 9 competitions and GPS trot out 10 teams across all 10 comps.
Unfortunately it also highlights that Wests are a club in a spot of bother. A shame for a club with such strong heritage and a strong junior club. They have representation across 8 competitions, yet are languishing behind clubs with lesser numbers.
Premier Reserve PColts 1st 2nd 3rd 4th C1 C2 W Total
University 33 23 44 30 29 24 7 34 37 22 283
Sunnybank 31 26 36 27 14 5 0 39 38 39 255
Brothers 31 40 31 30 36 12 0 32 29 0 241
Easts 38 25 27 17 24 13 26 26 20 0 216
GPS 12 22 28 15 22 20 17 16 23 21 196
Souths 22 8 5 33 30 24 0 5 0 0 127
Bond 28 37 16 0 0 0 0 30 0 0 111
Norths 5 5 6 0 29 0 0 14 0 28 87
Wests 9 5 5 26 8 11 15 -3 0 0 76
Logan 0 0 0 16 -4 0 0 0 25 -3 34
The above shows that Doughty rewards Clubs that have representation across all 10 competitions that go toward the Shield.
University and GPS are the only two clubs with such representation.
Sunnybank and Easts represented in 9.
Brothers and Wests in 8.
Souths in 7.
Norths in 6.
Bond and Logan in 4.
Where Clubs have two teams within the same competition (Easts in Colts 2, University in Colts 2 and 4th Grade), Doughty Shield points are allocated as per their highest team in that competition.
So, University runs out 12 teams across 10 competitions, whilst Easts run out 10 teams across 9 competitions and GPS trot out 10 teams across all 10 comps.
Unfortunately it also highlights that Wests are a club in a spot of bother. A shame for a club with such strong heritage and a strong junior club. They have representation across 8 competitions, yet are languishing behind clubs with lesser numbers.
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Big Dog do you know the last time GPS beat Easts?
It was the corresponding game in round 12 of 2013 at Yoku Rd.
On that day it was a 38-33 win to the Gallopers, and the Easts side's last defeat in 2013 as they went through the remaining 7 games undefeated (6 wins & a draw) including Major Semi & Grand Final wins over GPS.
So on that basis your boys are due for a win.
It was a 26 all draw at Yoku Rd in 2014.
If you need a recap of 2013 watch this little QRU piece:
It was the corresponding game in round 12 of 2013 at Yoku Rd.
On that day it was a 38-33 win to the Gallopers, and the Easts side's last defeat in 2013 as they went through the remaining 7 games undefeated (6 wins & a draw) including Major Semi & Grand Final wins over GPS.
So on that basis your boys are due for a win.
It was a 26 all draw at Yoku Rd in 2014.
If you need a recap of 2013 watch this little QRU piece:
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For those Tigers and GPS fans who remember that memorable day in 2013 at Ballymore here are some still photos.
http://www.redlandcitybulletin.com.au/story/1767259/photos-east-vs-gps-grand-final/#slide=43
http://www.redlandcitybulletin.com.au/story/1767259/photos-east-vs-gps-grand-final/#slide=43
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Ted Fahey (11)
Great to read this, but also bitterly disappointing at the same time.
Those bloody, Mosman, private school, pencil pushers at the ARU, need to get out of their long lunches at Rockpool and spend some time at training on a Tuesday night at Norths and Saturday mornings at Logan City watching the Under 10s.
That's the heart and soul of the game, not sitting in the Waratahs box at Allianz Stadium, comparing leather elbow patches and Hunter Valley Shiraz varietals.
If somebody had half a brain at the ARU they would understand that the grassroots of rugby is a marketers dream. Whacking your brand on a stadium for 10 years for $20M is a stupid concept and the sooner the ARU developed a program that took this type of investment from brands and tipped it into the game to reduce player registration, the better off the game will be.
I for one wouldn't mind an Emirates logo on my sons Under 10 jersey, or getting offered a cheap flight while I am slugging down a burnt sausage in Home Brand Bread on a Saturday morning!
Go The Eagles! and any other club with people who are supporting our game (without any bloody help from the ARU).
Billy Pulver is probably too busy booking his room at The Savoy in London for the World Cup to give a lolly bag!
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
On the money @Warrenwobble. Far too many use Rugby for selfish sybaritic purposes while spouting grass roots rhetoric, yet they are never seen turning snags at the BBQ, or packing up an oval after a game.
FilthRugby
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Yes.......we know Easts won in 2013.
That must be the 50th time you've posted that video, TT.
That must be the 50th time you've posted that video, TT.
TT how about you go back and post here
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/community/threads/qld-premier-rugby-2013.12066/page-79
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/community/threads/qld-premier-rugby-2013.12066/page-79
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Filth & Jets - I am just being consistent last week I posted some images of the 2011 Easts v Norths clash - which was the most significant game between the two clubs in recent history.
And I tried to do the same with Easts v GPS and the most significant recent game between the two clubs was in fact the 2013 GF.
Look I would be happy to post images of a GPS win but they haven't tasted victory over the Tigers since 2013 - maybe they will fix that this Saturday and the Big Dog can post a photo of the score board?
(Unfortunately Filth, I haven't been able to find footage of the 2008 GF - I am sure its on "Brendan McKibbin's greatest moments in Rugby when I didn't come off the bench video"!!! I believe there is a series of them - Sean Hardman has one and the Water Boy is working on one for Sam Greene)!!!
And I tried to do the same with Easts v GPS and the most significant recent game between the two clubs was in fact the 2013 GF.
Look I would be happy to post images of a GPS win but they haven't tasted victory over the Tigers since 2013 - maybe they will fix that this Saturday and the Big Dog can post a photo of the score board?
(Unfortunately Filth, I haven't been able to find footage of the 2008 GF - I am sure its on "Brendan McKibbin's greatest moments in Rugby when I didn't come off the bench video"!!! I believe there is a series of them - Sean Hardman has one and the Water Boy is working on one for Sam Greene)!!!
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This is the image of Simon Moore blowing that penalty on full time in the 2015, round 2 match.
Now what's more interesting? (pardon the pun)
Now what's more interesting? (pardon the pun)
thierry dusautoir
Alan Cameron (40)
TrainerGB, where has Sikimeti & Perez been lately?
Those two were integral to the early season win over Souths. Hopefully not long injury layoffs as I feel those two with Ryan and Ritchie will be key contributors to Norths rebuilding.
Those two were integral to the early season win over Souths. Hopefully not long injury layoffs as I feel those two with Ryan and Ritchie will be key contributors to Norths rebuilding.
Corne Uyc
Chris McKivat (8)
Dammers Redemption will be as shaky as the first part of the season. Can't see GPS getting close. Tigers are just getting stronger and closing out games better than anyone in the comp.
The question should be who will they beat in round two. Might just be Wests and Norths again on current form. There's nothing to suggest a resurgence.
Bank seem to have dropped their bundle but should be back. Keep an eye on Bond. The quiet achievers. Filth should win a couple more if they can close out the tight finishes.
TrainerGB
Ward Prentice (10)
TD, Alex Perez will be back on deck this week after a few weeks off with a knee injury.
Dylan Sikimeti inured his knee quite badly either in the Souths game or the following training session and has been out ever since.
I think he is actually heading overseas now and is unfortunately unlikely to pull on the Norths strip this year again.
Sent from my mind......
Dylan Sikimeti inured his knee quite badly either in the Souths game or the following training session and has been out ever since.
I think he is actually heading overseas now and is unfortunately unlikely to pull on the Norths strip this year again.
Sent from my mind......
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Regardless of what happens for the rest of the season the Sampson/Connellan combination at the Tigers would have to be close to the best coaching combination in QPR15. They have taken a line-up that not many rated at the beginning of the season to the top of the table after 10 rounds.
It's no wonder that Easts know how to close out a game with Sampson at the helm (& the experience of the #9 & #10) and the strength of the forwards has to be linked to Connellan because they are not just doing it when Ready, Paraka, Sanday & Gunn are there but they're doing it week in week out no matter who is in the 8.
I just hope it continues this Saturday @ Yoku.
I would like to see Quirkie get a run at Yoku but its still in the hands of the QRU medicos apparently - it must be getting close though. He'd be handy for a cameo against Uni in two weeks after the bye.
Easts host their ladies day when they play Uni so there should be a large and knowledgeable crowd present on the day!!
It's no wonder that Easts know how to close out a game with Sampson at the helm (& the experience of the #9 & #10) and the strength of the forwards has to be linked to Connellan because they are not just doing it when Ready, Paraka, Sanday & Gunn are there but they're doing it week in week out no matter who is in the 8.
I just hope it continues this Saturday @ Yoku.
I would like to see Quirkie get a run at Yoku but its still in the hands of the QRU medicos apparently - it must be getting close though. He'd be handy for a cameo against Uni in two weeks after the bye.
Easts host their ladies day when they play Uni so there should be a large and knowledgeable crowd present on the day!!
tigerland12
John Thornett (49)
How many games are required for a player to be eligble for the finals?
I'm just thinking the likes of Quirk, Turner (Easts), Kuridrani, Frisby, Kotze (GPS), Korzyk, JJ Taulagi,McDuling (University), Tapuai (Sunnybank), F-Sautia (Souths), plus all the Australian U20's.
I'm just thinking the likes of Quirk, Turner (Easts), Kuridrani, Frisby, Kotze (GPS), Korzyk, JJ Taulagi,McDuling (University), Tapuai (Sunnybank), F-Sautia (Souths), plus all the Australian U20's.
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T12 - Reds/U20s automatically qualify, so all those above plus Gill, Hanson, Hunt, JOC (James O'Connor), etc would be eligible for finals footy. I wouldn't be worrying about those coming back to GPS as they won't be required for finals footy.
The issue is that they are associated with the QRU because in 2013 Bryce Hegarty returned from the Rebels and played a few games for GPS and the Gallopers tried to get him cleared to play in the finals but the QRU disqualified him.
I think the magic numbers of game is 6.
I wonder whether Aust 7s players like Wilkin, Malouf, Lucas, etc would qualify or whether they would fall into the same category as Hegarty?
Wilkin might be ok because I think he played Qld U20s this year unless he was injured. The QRU certainly claim him as a Queenslander when they talk of the number of Qlders in the Aust U20s.
The issue is that they are associated with the QRU because in 2013 Bryce Hegarty returned from the Rebels and played a few games for GPS and the Gallopers tried to get him cleared to play in the finals but the QRU disqualified him.
I think the magic numbers of game is 6.
I wonder whether Aust 7s players like Wilkin, Malouf, Lucas, etc would qualify or whether they would fall into the same category as Hegarty?
Wilkin might be ok because I think he played Qld U20s this year unless he was injured. The QRU certainly claim him as a Queenslander when they talk of the number of Qlders in the Aust U20s.
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Arch Winning (36)
I don't understand your confusion TT - it's covered in 33.2 (b) - ARU/QRU and ARU Sevens contracted players - as long as they're registered 6 weeks before the commencement of the finals they're eligible to play.
It's up to clubs to ensure that they are registered 6 weeks out if they think they're in the finals hunt and the player will be needed, but they don't have to play any games before then.
Hegarty's issue, if it were to come up again, is that he was contracted to an ARU/VRU team - the rules say now ARU/QRU and Australian 7s.
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It's up to clubs to ensure that they are registered 6 weeks out if they think they're in the finals hunt and the player will be needed, but they don't have to play any games before then.
Hegarty's issue, if it were to come up again, is that he was contracted to an ARU/VRU team - the rules say now ARU/QRU and Australian 7s.
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Alan Cameron (40)
Good to hear about Perez TrainerGB
Is Sikimeti going on a holiday or has he signed a pro deal to play somewhere?
Is Sikimeti going on a holiday or has he signed a pro deal to play somewhere?
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Cat_A part of what you say is correct in regards being registered with the QRU rather than the VRU or any other Australian Province.
As for "the bloke who ran out the tee" who are you referring to? - because my recollection was that Ed Quirke, Aiden Toua and David Lucas ran out the tee in the 2013 GF and I don't think they sat on the panel which decided the Hegarty matter.
I think unless you substantiate this claim I think you should take down that post because it is slanderous.
The QRU made the correct decision regarding Hegarty otherwise we could have the situation where clubs fly in players from all over Aust/World to play in the QPR finals. It would be like Easts flying back Toua/Seuteni/Placid/Butler this year to play in the finals - it wouldn't be right.
As for "the bloke who ran out the tee" who are you referring to? - because my recollection was that Ed Quirke, Aiden Toua and David Lucas ran out the tee in the 2013 GF and I don't think they sat on the panel which decided the Hegarty matter.
I think unless you substantiate this claim I think you should take down that post because it is slanderous.
The QRU made the correct decision regarding Hegarty otherwise we could have the situation where clubs fly in players from all over Aust/World to play in the QPR finals. It would be like Easts flying back Toua/Seuteni/Placid/Butler this year to play in the finals - it wouldn't be right.
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