QLD Premier Rugby 2015
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John Thornett (49)
Why would Griffith/QUT build a rugby program when there isn't really a competition for them to compete in?
Are you implying inclusion of new teams into our premier comp?
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I'd like to see Griffith involved, maybe they could partner with Logan if they ever reach Premier Grade.. There's a Griffith Campus in Logan so there is a demographic affiliation.
Is there demand from Griffith to become involved, perhaps, if depends on staff and how they see the whole sports program.
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Is there demand from Griffith to become involved, perhaps, if depends on staff and how they see the whole sports program.
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Bob McCowan (2)
I Personally think there is a need/inevitable for Universities such as QUT, Griffith, ACU to enter the competition. The ARU and QRU are bleeding club rugby dry with all their fees. At least the Universities have strong financial backgrounds, and could probably 'ride' it out.
Their will always be a need for Junior Rugby Clubs and it is imperative that Junior Rugby stays strong, however now with my 'pessimistic' hat on, I really worry about the future of some of the Senior Clubs. You can already see it starting to tear NSW Club Rugby apart. Maybe some Club/Uni amalgamations need to happen.
Their will always be a need for Junior Rugby Clubs and it is imperative that Junior Rugby stays strong, however now with my 'pessimistic' hat on, I really worry about the future of some of the Senior Clubs. You can already see it starting to tear NSW Club Rugby apart. Maybe some Club/Uni amalgamations need to happen.
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Ward Prentice (10)
Logan, and two new teams from the Sunny Coast to make up the 12 team premier comp. The Uni's can jump on board. That would be perfect!!
QRU supports them into the comp.
Will strengthen Brisbane rugby, Queensland rugby and dare I say it, Australian rugby.
A 9 team premier comp in a city this size...... It's a joke.
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QRU supports them into the comp.
Will strengthen Brisbane rugby, Queensland rugby and dare I say it, Australian rugby.
A 9 team premier comp in a city this size...... It's a joke.
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Matty Thushker
Stan Wickham (3)
I like the idea TGB. How about this.
From what I understand (probably wrong), the strongest 'financial' clubs in the comp are UQ, Sunnybank, Easts, Bond Uni and GPS. So they're in the comp. Brothers are one of the most traditional clubs and are in a plush area, so they also stay. Should be able to survive. *6 Clubs
Then other clubs merge with Uni's. Wests is inner city, so they go with QUT, Norths go with ACU, Logan with Griffith, Sunnycoast with University of Sunshine Coast, and we could also include a team from Toowoomba which I think is needed anyways, and they align with USQ. Also a team form North/Central Qld like they do in the Rugby League would also be great, aligning themselves with CQU *6 Clubs
That means you would have a sustainable 12 team comp with these teams.
From what I understand (probably wrong), the strongest 'financial' clubs in the comp are UQ, Sunnybank, Easts, Bond Uni and GPS. So they're in the comp. Brothers are one of the most traditional clubs and are in a plush area, so they also stay. Should be able to survive. *6 Clubs
Then other clubs merge with Uni's. Wests is inner city, so they go with QUT, Norths go with ACU, Logan with Griffith, Sunnycoast with University of Sunshine Coast, and we could also include a team from Toowoomba which I think is needed anyways, and they align with USQ. Also a team form North/Central Qld like they do in the Rugby League would also be great, aligning themselves with CQU *6 Clubs
That means you would have a sustainable 12 team comp with these teams.
- UQ
- Sunnybank
- Bond Uni
- Easts
- GPS
- Brothers
- Wests - QUT
- Norths - ACU
- Logan - Griffith
- Sunnycoast - SCU
- Central Qld - CQU
- Toowoomba/Darling Downs - USQ
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Ward Prentice (10)
Something... anything... just needs to be done.
Uncle Bill (ironic his name is Bill!!) is killing the game through various means. Will be interesting to see the participation stats at the end of this season.
Over 30% of Australia's rugby population play in QLD.... and we only have a 9 team "Premier" comp here in Brisbane?? That doesn't add up.
Anyway enough about Mr Bill Pulloff.
We need to develop a comp which is attractive to players from the bush and up state... drawing them to Brisbane because they want to have a shot at the big time because its a big deal etc.
If I can sit on my couch and watch some AFL game in the bush between 2 random club teams on NITV (love it!!) then why can't I do the same to watch the best rugby talent in QLD playing on the big screen?
My main point though, is to increase the Prem Comp size to accommodate the quality of players in Brisbane/QLD who are playing Reserve Grade and 1st Grade.
Evidence is NRC when both the City and Country teams pulled in players when injuries occurred, who played Reserve Grade level at some clubs.
I just think rugby would be better if all the best players, played at the best level.
Maybe a rule of "to be eligible for NRC, you must play at least 80% of your games at Premier Level in Brisbane (barring injury & Rep games of course)"
That would spread the talent, grow the game.
All Blacks cant be All Blacks unless they play in NZ
Same for Wallabies. Make it special. Unique.
I reckon there are some absolute superstars playing behind Wallabies and Reds at some clubs, and all over the state for that matter, unable to get their foot in the door.... and that's a shame, for the game and for them.
Uncle Bill (ironic his name is Bill!!) is killing the game through various means. Will be interesting to see the participation stats at the end of this season.
Over 30% of Australia's rugby population play in QLD.... and we only have a 9 team "Premier" comp here in Brisbane?? That doesn't add up.
Anyway enough about Mr Bill Pulloff.
We need to develop a comp which is attractive to players from the bush and up state... drawing them to Brisbane because they want to have a shot at the big time because its a big deal etc.
If I can sit on my couch and watch some AFL game in the bush between 2 random club teams on NITV (love it!!) then why can't I do the same to watch the best rugby talent in QLD playing on the big screen?
My main point though, is to increase the Prem Comp size to accommodate the quality of players in Brisbane/QLD who are playing Reserve Grade and 1st Grade.
Evidence is NRC when both the City and Country teams pulled in players when injuries occurred, who played Reserve Grade level at some clubs.
I just think rugby would be better if all the best players, played at the best level.
Maybe a rule of "to be eligible for NRC, you must play at least 80% of your games at Premier Level in Brisbane (barring injury & Rep games of course)"
That would spread the talent, grow the game.
All Blacks cant be All Blacks unless they play in NZ
Same for Wallabies. Make it special. Unique.I reckon there are some absolute superstars playing behind Wallabies and Reds at some clubs, and all over the state for that matter, unable to get their foot in the door.... and that's a shame, for the game and for them.
warhorse
Alfred Walker (16)
And what do you propose for Souths? Does one of the most successful Clubs of the 80's and 90's and a competitive Club ever since just disappear? I hope that you have just made an oversight!!
Matty Thushker
Stan Wickham (3)
Massive oversight and silly error. Apologies to yourself warhorse and all Souths supporters.
They can team up with Yeronga Tafe
They can team up with Yeronga Tafe
I can't see any change to the Premier comp in the short term. Clubs will have less money from 2015 on so they will be looking to spend less, not more. The only way a team from outside Brisbane, other than the coast teams, will enter the comp will be if they pay all the travel like the Vikings did when they were around.
As for the university connection I think you will find that Sunnybank and Griffith have a relationship.
http://www.griffith.edu.au/scholars...hips/sunnybank-senior-rugby-club-scholarships
I'm quite disenfranchised with the game at the highest level at the moment, to the point at least one of my sons will be playing soccer. I'm looking forward to watching a bit of Club rugby though as it takes me back to the way the game once was.
As for the university connection I think you will find that Sunnybank and Griffith have a relationship.
http://www.griffith.edu.au/scholars...hips/sunnybank-senior-rugby-club-scholarships
I'm quite disenfranchised with the game at the highest level at the moment, to the point at least one of my sons will be playing soccer. I'm looking forward to watching a bit of Club rugby though as it takes me back to the way the game once was.
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Billy Sheehan (19)
The bond uni is a pretty unique situation As the appointment of a rugby mad vice chancellor (Tim brailsford) coincided with troubled times for not only the breakers but the rep premier team structure.
Bond have fields and facilities (thanks to the Titans) that along with a with a strong sporting program could attract some overseas students (the money earner for uni's) Not to play as much as help build the culture and reputation of the uni outside the class room. Bond is set up differently to most uni's in terms that it is a private uni so things like fee's, class size, ease of acceptance and term structures are all very different.
As much as I would love to see teams from sunny Coast and Central qld in the premier comp I don't think the university angle is the way to go especially on a large scale.
The majority of uni's would not have enough to gain and the ajoining clubs
would lose too much.
Bond have fields and facilities (thanks to the Titans) that along with a with a strong sporting program could attract some overseas students (the money earner for uni's) Not to play as much as help build the culture and reputation of the uni outside the class room. Bond is set up differently to most uni's in terms that it is a private uni so things like fee's, class size, ease of acceptance and term structures are all very different.
As much as I would love to see teams from sunny Coast and Central qld in the premier comp I don't think the university angle is the way to go especially on a large scale.
The majority of uni's would not have enough to gain and the ajoining clubs
would lose too much.
Close TOCC, Nucifora is in fact Director of Sport for Bond, so oversees all sports not just Rugby. Hedger is the new DOR and Premier Head Coach and it sounds like he may have some good people coming into support him and may well have cleared the decks! I heard he is making every effort to reconnect the Breakers with the local grassroots and presented at a local coaches forum a couple of weeks back. Not sure what the role up has been like at training but understand they started back last night and have another session tomorrow night with a trial against Easts valentines day maybe??? TT does this ring a bell?
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John Solomon (38)
If you go further back it was Teachers- Norths wasn't it? As the QUT was known as QIT & was the teachers training college. I think.....
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