QLD Premier Rugby 2014

[Jets]

And you name the bench along with the starting 15 prior to the game - not really able to call someone down from the stands somewhere during the second half when players start going down.

Actually after reading through the rules you can if it's a front rower. But I doubt many new that at the time. I know I didn't.

 

[Cat_A]

I think Scott Allen's blow up at Backstrom for not letting him replace the injured prop shows how few people HAVE read through the rules.

I knew that you couldn't replace the prop if you went uncontested, but I didn't know you could walk the stands/Hill looking for appropriate sober props. The mind boggles at the logistics of actually doing so.

 

[Jets]

I doubt anyone knew the rule. I only found out this week after the fact. It mentions you can bring in players outside the named bench to replace an injured prop. The chances of their being such a player available is pretty remote, especially if the reserve grade team had lost a grand final 5 hour earlier.

 

[Dyson]

Maybe there would be more props in the game at senior level if they didn't get replaced by flankers who have put on to much weight in younger grades where all coaches are worried about is how fast there team is.

 

[RugbyReg]

Maybe there would be more props in the game at senior level if they didn't get replaced by flankers who have put on to much weight in younger grades where all coaches are worried about is how fast there team is.

you sound like me. And no, I am not still bitter about those Under 19 rep teams selected back in 1992 when all the props were club backrowers and locks. Not a 'specialist' prop amongst them.

Nup, I've moved on.

 

[Scott A]

On a side note, why did University go uncontested in the scrums?

Pretty simple actually.

We started the match with three front row reserves (two props and a hooker) as required by IRB Laws and QRU Competition Rules. All of the props were suitably trained and capable of scrummaging, regardless of who the opposition were.

We lost the starting tighthead prop at half time due to injury. His replacement was also forced to leave the field injured just 15 minutes into the second half.

We then switched the reserve loosehead prop to tighthead to avoid uncontested scrums. However, our loosehead prop was then injured in approximately the 30th minute of the second half and left the field.

Having lost three props to injury there were no props left on the bench and a lock replaced the injured prop, again in accordance with IRB Laws and QRU Competition Rules

There was only one scrum in the match that was uncontested (in approximately the 35th minute). As a result of having to go uncontested the QRU insisted that we play with only 14 men from that point on in the match.

 

[RugbyReg]

Scott the sprightly way I saw you bound down the stadium and onto the field I thought you were going to grab a reserve jersey yourself and continue onto the field!

 

[Breakdown]

Scott the sprightly way I saw you bound down the stadium and onto the field I thought you were going to grab a reserve jersey yourself and continue onto the field!

Reg - what action is being taken against Backstrom & the clown who mismanaged the Prem Colts game?

 

[Jets]

Reg - what action is being taken against Backstrom & the clown who mismanaged the Prem Colts game?

None I would have thought. What did Backstrom do that was wrong?


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[Breakdown]

None I would have thought. What did Backstrom do that was wrong?


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It was reported that when Uni went uncontested, he allowed a 15th man to remain on the ground until a scrum was packed a few minutes later.

Don't you think some action is required given the impact of both indescretions?

 

[RugbyReg]

In prem grade you mean? I don't understand what your issue is or why I would know the ramifications ?

 

[Cat_A]

It was reported that when Uni went uncontested, he allowed a 15th man to remain on the ground until a scrum was packed a few minutes later.

Don't you think some action is required given the impact of both indescretions?

Sorry I don't understand. There was one uncontested scrum and when that happened Uni dropped to 14 men (again). You don't call uncontested scrums when there isn't a scrum to pack, do you?

You can know it's coming, but hypothetically if there were no more scrums in the game, why would/should a team play with 14 men because they've run out of props, while leaving a fit player on the bench?

 

[Cat_A]

And the "impact" is arguably negligible. There was only one scrum packed that was uncontested, that scrum was a Sunnybank feed on the Sunnybank side of halfway (on the 10 IIRC) and they opted to kick the ball soon after rather than keep it in hand to grind out the game while they were still 2 points ahead and entering Uni half. If Sunnybank WANTED to get Uni to 13 men while Malouf was off the field they could've knocked the ball on and forced the scrum.

Surely the bigger impact on the game was Sunnybank letting in a try but not scoring points themselves while Uni had a man in the bin for 10 and a player off for a prop for another 5min in the 2nd half?

And as for Colts, Backstrom & the QRU adhered to the competition rules. I personally am frustrated that the ARU says one thing but the comp rules disregard it, but those rules were agreed upon months ago and every single club could've spoken up well before full time in that game and asked the question. As for impact, Brothers didn't have the opportunity to win in extra time, but let's not pretend they were shoo ins to win the game in extra time; they could've just as easily lost anyway. As for the refereeing error (and it absolutely was), they happen, referees are human and that would've really hurt.

Backstrom knows what he's doing and I highly doubt anyone could've run the finals weekend any better.

 

[Tigers Tale]

And as for Colts, Backstrom & the QRU adhered to the competition rules.

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Backstrom knows what he's doing and I highly doubt anyone could've run the finals weekend any better.

Agreed Cat - no one knows the QRU rules better than Backstrom - I thinks it is a bit rich for people to bag him when he was only adopting the rules, takes a lot of courage and character to do so under the pressure of grand finals. I say well done Michael Backstrom.

And for those who still feel aggrieved I say get over it because nothing will change the results of Sunday - that's life you either stay bitter or you dust yourself and do everything you can to change the outcome next time you play.

 

[TheBigDog]

Was my first chance seeing some Premier Rugby stars last night in the NRC game, was very impressed with the Brisbane team.

What club does Matt Mafi play for? The reserve front row of Feao, Mafi and Kite looked bloody unreal, in a massively intimidating kind of way.

 

[Jets]

Mafi is from the Filth. Was a Sunnybank Junior who went tot Nudgee. Spent some time at Sydney Uni too.

 

[Intruder]

Mafi is from the Filth. Was a Sunnybank Junior who went tot Nudgee. Spent some time at Sydney Uni too.

Haven't managed to track Mafi for some time now since his move up North but one thing that he hasn't lost is his scrummaging ability. He would have to be one of the more under rated scrummaging hookers going around. However our depth was tested when our starting front row went off in Ryan, Tilse and Coolican for King, Jones and Robertson all 2/3rd grade players at Syd Uni.

I thought we also didn't get parody at scrum time for the cattle we had. The starting City front row pushed us around at times and we only had maybe one or two dominant scrums. The Stars will be disappointed with their set piece.

 

[FilthRugby]

Mafi is underrated in my opinion.

To be honest, I've never seen why there is a lot of fuss surrounding Andrew Ready. I personally think they are better forwards at Easts, such as Kirwan, Paraka, Moore, Gunn etc. I know TT will disagree.

If Mafi was fitter, I think he really could perform to a very high standard. He was the potent weapon in the Brothers scrum this year.

 

[FilthRugby]

Well dan54, you've got your just deserts by beating the Friday Night Filth in the Normanby Cup Grand-Final tonight.

 

[Scrubber2050]

Bond Uni Rugby Board member Michael Summers who was also President of Gold Coast Rugby died a few days ago, quite suddenly I believe.

Great contributor to local rugby on the Gold Coast.

Best wishes to family