QLD GPS Rugby 2020

[Blue & white]

You are correct

6 rounds of competition essentially commencing week 4.

Week 4 , 5 , 6, 7 , 8, 9

A couple of schools have claimed they won’t be “contact ready” in the first two weeks of the term. This surrounds concerns around front row passports and safe , graduated , contact generally.

I suppose those schools that do think they will be ready might get an extra trial in Week 2 but it seems as though everyone will run at least one trial in Week 3. But the competition proper in Week 4 over 6 weeks which will coincide with the last Saturday before end of term. No carry over into holidays or Term 4.

It suggests every school with miss 2 other schools in the rounds this year most likely in the order that they would have played in the early rounds but with adjustments for bye rounds in some way noting that TSS , BGS and TGS had byes that would have accrued in the 1st 3 rounds this year.

If this is how it rolls there are significant match ups that will be missed including TSS v Nudgee and ACGS v Nudgee and BBC

ACGS should be at least be a shared premier with one of TSS , Nudgee and BBC this year.

TSS figure to avert Nudgee and ?

Nudgee figure to avert ACGS and TSS and would play BBC at BBC in the last round.

The End

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[fairplay]

I can’t seriously believe that 1st XV squads are having trouble getting their scrum passports and won’t be contact ready. It’s a questionable decision. It will be a shame if the XV winners will have to have an * next to their title.

 

[Dean Moriarty]

With bye rounds ditched it likely just picks up as follows

TSS would have had their bye in Round 1 and their first game would have been Nudgee Round 2 and ACGS in Round 3 so maybe TSS misses these 2

Nudgee would have had ACGS in Round 1 and TSS in Round 2 so Nudgee misses these 2 and then pencil in their bye in what would have been Round 3 and then I think their 1st round in Round 4 would be BSHS

BBC would have had BSHS in Round 1 and ACGS in Round 2 and maybe misses these 2 and pencil in their bye in Round 3 and they then pick up GT in their 1st round in Round 4

ACGS would have have had Nudgee in Round 1 and BBC in Round 2. Pencil in their bye in what would have been Round 3 and they then pick up TSS in the first round of Round 4

Plug and play if you like for the rest in looking at the order of last year’s rounds

 

[fairplay]

Would be pretty funny if BBC for the 2nd time in history ended up with an asterix next to a shared premiership with 3 others

Oh the humanity !

What was the last one? 4 way tie right? How many times has that happened?

 

[fairplay]

Quick question? Are Onion TV/The Season covering any of the GPS schools this year? Anybody know?

 

[RedsRugbyfan101]

I can’t seriously believe that 1st XV squads are having trouble getting their scrum passports and won’t be contact ready. It’s a questionable decision. It will be a shame if the XV winners will have to have an * next to their title.

It is my understanding that Front Row Passports would carry over from last year anyway. I'd imagine that nearly all front rowers in 1st XV contention (last years 15A/A's, 16A/B's and 2nds) would have done it last year. That's if they played contested scrums which unfortunately was not always that case.

 

[The Nomad]

I’m not totally sure about this , but I think part of the reason for the delayed start is the need for 4 weeks of “contact” training before playing competition matches.

Full contact training initially was not meant to start until the 1st of July, making August 1st the earliest for games to start .

QPR effectively have the same issue . It starts on Sat 01/08 and are playing the first two rounds under competition rules but not for points , so effectively trials. The comp for them really kicks off in round 3 . They do manage to play everyone once before finals.

 

[Jets]

I can’t seriously believe that 1st XV squads are having trouble getting their scrum passports and won’t be contact ready. It’s a questionable decision. It will be a shame if the XV winners will have to have an * next to their title.

It's a whole school sport, not just about 1st XV.

 

[RedsRugbyfan101]

It's a whole school sport, not just about 1st XV.

If that's the case then I'd argue 1-2 weeks should be sufficent preparation time. Would hate to see the C-F teams miss out on games just because the 1st XV needs 4 weeks to get ready. Usually the C- F's teams would at most do 1 holiday session and maybe 2 training sessions in week 1 prior to their first game.

I also struggle to believe that the teams aren't doing some form of contact work behind the scenes to get the jump on the rest of the pack.

 

[fairplay]

It's a whole school sport, not just about 1st XV.

The Blue Ribbon event is the 1st XV.

If the lower age groups want to mess around with their schedules, no worries.

They will get a chance to play again next year.

 

[Blue & white]

If that's the case then I'd argue 1-2 weeks should be sufficent preparation time. Would hate to see the C-F teams miss out on games just because the 1st XV needs 4 weeks to get ready. Usually the C- F's teams would at most do 1 holiday session and maybe 2 training sessions in week 1 prior to their first game.

I also struggle to believe that the teams aren't doing some form of contact work behind the scenes to get the jump on the rest of the pack.

I agree with you: but with tennis,B/ball & soccer all being played at the same time there will be very few d to f matches.

 

[Dean Moriarty]

The other thing that is relevant in this discussion as The Nomad referred to is State Government restrictions. And then on top of that, especially for Schools, is, understandably, a more well elevated sense of safety,responsibility,duty of care and so on.

 

[Aussie Luke]

So, if I am correct, TSS and Nudgee will not play each other in the GPS competition but BBC have to play both Nudgee and TSS. This makes it difficult for BBC. Looks like it might be another Nudgee or/and TSS premiership again.

 

[RedsRugbyfan101]

With bye rounds ditched it likely just picks up as follows

TSS would have had their bye in Round 1 and their first game would have been Nudgee Round 2 and ACGS in Round 3 so maybe TSS misses these 2

Nudgee would have had ACGS in Round 1 and TSS in Round 2 so Nudgee misses these 2 and then pencil in their bye in what would have been Round 3 and then I think their 1st round in Round 4 would be BSHS

BBC would have had BSHS in Round 1 and ACGS in Round 2 and maybe misses these 2 and pencil in their bye in Round 3 and they then pick up GT in their 1st round in Round 4

ACGS would have have had Nudgee in Round 1 and BBC in Round 2. Pencil in their bye in what would have been Round 3 and they then pick up TSS in the first round of Round 4

Plug and play if you like for the rest in looking at the order of last year’s rounds

How can the bye rounds be ditched? Given there are 9 schools in the GPS (unless BGS or someone else has indicated they will not participate? In that case ignore the rest of this post.) Math would say that in any given weekend one team would have to sit out.

With playing fields also needing to be shared with the football teams, I highly doubt the draw would be modified and rugby's draw will be the same as the other GPS sports. Be a case of luck of which teams you play. Teams who have to have a bye would simply get 4 points for the bye to mitgate against playing 1 less game.

So if the season pans out with Rounds 1-3 not counting and points being awarded for Rds 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 & 9 only, ACGS are surely at short odds to at least share the title. They skip playing any of the powerhouse 3 of TSS, NC or BBC! (scheduled to play them rounds 1-3). A Rd 4 bye gives them a crucial extra trial game (vs Downlands one would imagine) to get combinations right before taking on BGS in round 5 which gives them a nice easy game first up. Only tripping point would be the Round 9 clash up the range. But geez, talk about a dream draw.

 

[Aussie Luke]

How can the bye rounds be ditched? Given there are 9 schools in the GPS (unless BGS or someone else has indicated they will not participate? In that case ignore the rest of this post.) Math would say that in any given weekend one team would have to sit out.

With playing fields also needing to be shared with the football teams, I highly doubt the draw would be modified and rugby's draw will be the same as the other GPS sports. Be a case of luck of which teams you play. Teams who have to have a bye would simply get 4 points for the bye to mitgate against playing 1 less game.

So if the season pans out with Rounds 1-3 not counting and points being awarded for Rds 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 & 9 only, ACGS are surely at short odds to at least share the title. They skip playing any of the powerhouse 3 of TSS, NC or BBC! (scheduled to play them rounds 1-3). A Rd 4 bye gives them a crucial extra trial game (vs Downlands one would imagine) to get combinations right before taking on BGS in round 5 which gives them a nice easy game first up. Only tripping point would be the Round 9 clash up the range. But geez, talk about a dream draw.

To add another spanner in the works, Nudgee are currently redeveloping "the Flats" into a rugby and cricket village with hedges/trees etc dividing each field, facilities, fences, seating, walkways etc and so all of those fields will be out of action this season until the project is completed next year, and so most of the home games will have to be played somewhere else as they will only have 3 rugby ovals available i.e. Ross, Hendry and Wilkes. I haven't heard where they will play the lower grades and so would be interested to hear what their plan is if anyone knows.

Re the Churchie draw, good point, it could end in a 4 way Premiership!

 

[Lammy]

I think both Churchie and Nudgee have D teams in most age groups. Can't imagine BGS or BSHS having much beyond A or B... And BBC have had finishing numbers in the younger years even prior to this year. Those lower teams just could be Terrace ACGS and NC playing each other every week

 

[Lammy]

Finishing=diminishing

 

[Countryjack]

So, if I am correct, TSS and Nudgee will not play each other in the GPS competition but BBC have to play both Nudgee and TSS. This makes it difficult for BBC. Looks like it might be another Nudgee or/and TSS premiership again.

dear Sir

you are correct

 

[The Engine Room]

Any updates on "crowd controls"? We are still hearing whispers of the 1 parent / spectator per player at this stage. There will also be controls on entry and exit to school grounds. Streaming seems to be the alternative viewing option where permitted.

Any truth to the rumour that TSS were busted (and fined) training before Level 2 restrictions?

 

[RedsRugbyfan101]

Any updates on "crowd controls"? We are still hearing whispers of the 1 parent / spectator per player at this stage. There will also be controls on entry and exit to school grounds. Streaming seems to be the alternative viewing option where permitted.

Any truth to the rumour that TSS were busted (and fined) training before Level 2 restrictions?

From what Scott Morrison said a week ago, the advice for stage 3 is that the limitation is a 1 person per 4 square meters rule instead of the 100 person cap. If that is implemented in QLD then you would imagine crowd controls wouldn't be neccessary with all the sporting fields of GPS schools providing ample space. I do wonder if Terrace's Tennyson Grandstand qualifies for the 25% capacity rules set to put in place for stadiums.

I can't see games other than the 1stXV being livestreamed consistently. The two headmasters of each school would have to agree and getting agreement on the 1st XV alone has taken a number of years and up to know BGS have consistently said no.