QLD GPS Rugby 2017

[Hound]

Start of the cricket GPS on the weekend just gone. Heard an interesting bit of information that sort of statled me. All the Rugby boys are hard at training and have been for quite some time. Not sure if this is an accepted rule for all schools but heard that any forward who is not at least 90Kgs will not be considered for the top team. Just seems a bit wrong to me. ANy thoughts?

 

[The Queen ;)]

Start of the cricket GPS on the weekend just gone. Heard an interesting bit of information that sort of statled me. All the Rugby boys are hard at training and have been for quite some time. Not sure if this is an accepted rule for all schools but heard that any forward who is not at least 90Kgs will not be considered for the top team. Just seems a bit wrong to me. ANy thoughts?

personally i believe loose forwards and even sometime hookers should not be redistricted by weight minimums. their skills should be the deciders for their place into the team. examples of this last season was will borger, great skill and tackling yet only around 80 kgs, Fraser Mcreight around high 80s, best player on the field last year.

 

[Gungenia]

Mr Sage
1) It seems BBC agrees with you-my nephew tells me there is not a single new boy in 1st xv squad;not any new rugby players in grade 11 . seems ( the new edict) is they will concentrate on Grades 8 and 9.I note their red hot 15A s of last year will have plenty of boys in firsts;


Correct-the new rule I hear

 

[Rich_E]

Not sure if this is an accepted rule for all schools but heard that any forward who is not at least 90Kgs will not be considered for the top team. Just seems a bit wrong to me. ANy thoughts?

Sounds like a rumour started by a loose forward whose position is likely to go to another lad who is under 90kg and more skilful. 90+ would be considered more of a safety requirements for 1 and 3, and a desirable attribute for 4 and 5. But for 2, 6, 7 and 8, if you are good enough you are good enough.

 

[Realist]

Start of the cricket GPS on the weekend just gone. Heard an interesting bit of information that sort of statled me. All the Rugby boys are hard at training and have been for quite some time. Not sure if this is an accepted rule for all schools but heard that any forward who is not at least 90Kgs will not be considered for the top team. Just seems a bit wrong to me. ANy thoughts?

Can't speak for all the schools but I know TGS 1st squad started training a couple of weeks into 4th Term last year and are right into it now us we speak.
As for the 90kg+ rule I don't know were they stand with that but from what I have been told all the new imports are quite big especially the forwards and the existing forward imports that are old enough to play 1sts would I think make the weight no worries. And size seemed to be a factor in other selections because skills weren't.
Quite frankly if this is a policy of a school its bloody stuipid

 

[Dark Shark]

Start of the cricket GPS on the weekend just gone. Heard an interesting bit of information that sort of statled me. All the Rugby boys are hard at training and have been for quite some time. Not sure if this is an accepted rule for all schools but heard that any forward who is not at least 90Kgs will not be considered for the top team. Just seems a bit wrong to me. ANy thoughts?

Well lucky the young man Moroney from the 2014 GPS season was not coached by the idiot(s) making this rule or statement. He would not have made his school team in the year he was judged to be among the best schoolboy players in the country.

It should come down to a whole lot of factors. Size is but one. How about skill, speed, strength (which is a whole lot different to size) and decision making. On the national front, all you have to do is look at Will Skelton to see that size is not everything.

 

[Blanco]

Realist as the resident expert up there on the hill, how do the TGS squad look this year?

 

[Realist]

Realist as the resident expert up there on the hill, how do the TGS squad look this year?

The unknown factor is the 6 imports that they have bought into grade 11 and where or if they figure in the 1st's calculations, I am guessing most of them will, as apparently they have a bit of size about them, no idea of their backgrounds, 3 forwards and 3 backs. There is only the fly half that is returning from last season and 2 forwards Wagner and Cole who had some decent game time there as well.
I am expecting the forward pack will be big with a couple of abrasive ball carries in there, but they will sacrifice in other areas. In saying that I do know that the team as a whole will be very fit.
The backs lack the superstars they have had in past teams (excluding the unknown factor of the imports), but in saying that there are some handy boys there. Half back could be a problem for them.
TGS like to play a very structure game built around patterns so they will select boys that fit the plan. If their game plan is executed well they will be a hand full and a threat but if things break down I think they will lack players with the skill and ability to pull them out of it.
I am expecting they will finish mid field at best but I may eat my words yet.
Going forward though I think 2018 and 2019 will be a totally different matter.
Look out.

 

[TheKing]

There are so many individual points I would love to address in this, but I'll just do a couple.

1. League kids come play First XV and then go back to League. Queensland Schoolboys jumper wasted.

Karmichael Hunt
Eto Nabuli
Duncan Paia'aua
Lachlan Maranta
Caleb Timu
Jack Tuttle
Chris Kuridrani
Henry Taefu
Waita Setu
Mack Mason

10/30 of 2016's Reds squad played Schoolboy rugby, then professional Rugby League at some level before returning to Union.

A further third didn't go to school here at all - your Taniela Tupou's, Sam Talakai's and Lukhan Tui's of the world.

The reason for this is that Rugby Union is the absolute worst sport in the country for an aspirant professional player.

The Reds U20s pay zero money, exploiting the kids who wouldn't dream of playing League because they're able to. The GPS churns out so much talent that they have no need to pay anyone. They entice players into signing non-compete clauses in lieu of a contract with no guarantee of future recompense.

Little Billy* could choose either A) $0 from union until he hits his prime in Premier Grade aged 24, or B) the League U20s minimum salary of $50k per year for three years plus a free trade or university degree.

It's an easy choice to make, especially because League develops a skill set that enhances the player's ability. Kids who play both growing up are better players than the kids who specialise from age five - because they've got double the experience.

A League player brought to a GPS School might just develop a taste for union, take the League money and return later when they are ready, as better players.

There are a number out there already. Josh Birch (BGS 2012) finished at the Newcastle Knights U20s and came back to be the find of the season for UQ's Premier Grade side this year.

Josh Bower (BBC 2013) finished his time at Broncs U20s and is now playing regularly off the bench for Sunnybank.

Jamason Fa'anana-Schultz (IGS 2013) played Broncos U20s and came back to Union at UQ, and is now a signed Waratah ready to play at the Brisbane 10s.

By my estimation there are a further 25 GPS kids form the last three years playing U20s League, so we'll start to see more in the following year.




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[Realist]

There are so many individual points I would love to address in this, but I'll just do a couple.

1. League kids come play First XV and then go back to League. Queensland Schoolboys jumper wasted.

Karmichael Hunt
Eto Nabuli
Duncan Paia'aua
Lachlan Maranta
Caleb Timu
Jack Tuttle
Chris Kuridrani
Henry Taefu
Waita Setu
Mack Mason

10/30 of 2016's Reds squad played Schoolboy rugby, then professional Rugby League at some level before returning to Union.

A further third didn't go to school here at all - your Taniela Tupou's, Sam Talakai's and Lukhan Tui's of the world.

The reason for this is that Rugby Union is the absolute worst sport in the country for an aspirant professional player.

The Reds U20s pay zero money, exploiting the kids who wouldn't dream of playing League because they're able to. The GPS churns out so much talent that they have no need to pay anyone. They entice players into signing non-compete clauses in lieu of a contract with no guarantee of future recompense.

Little Billy* could choose either A) $0 from union until he hits his prime in Premier Grade aged 24, or B) the League U20s minimum salary of $50k per year for three years plus a free trade or university degree.

It's an easy choice to make, especially because League develops a skill set that enhances the player's ability. Kids who play both growing up are better players than the kids who specialise from age five - because they've got double the experience.

A League player brought to a GPS School might just develop a taste for union, take the League money and return later when they are ready, as better players.

There are a number out there already. Josh Birch (BGS 2012) finished at the Newcastle Knights U20s and came back to be the find of the season for UQ's Premier Grade side this year.

By my estimation there are a further 25 GPS kids form the last three years playing U20s League, so we'll start to see more in the following year.




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The King I assume you are replying to one of my posts, if so then I can't dispute what you say above. Still it doesn't change the fact were Australian Rugby is at the moment, and the list above of league player come schoolboy player, come professional league player, come professional union player won't change it.

 

[Happy to Chat]

The King I assume you are replying to one of my posts, if so then I can't dispute what you say above. Still it doesn't change the fact were Australian Rugby is at the moment, and the list above of league player come schoolboy player, come professional league player, come professional union player won't change it.

And that's why we will never be a top rugby union nation.


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[Digby2016]

A lot of BBC boys playing in Global 10 s at Suncorp next week.

Qld Reds squad featuring BBC 2015 Senior Jayden Ngamanu

Brumbies squad featuring Tom Banks (2012) and Lolo Fakaosilea (2012)

Panasonic Wild Knights squad featuring Ben Gunter (2015)


NSW Waratahs squad with current BBC parent and coach Lote Tuqiri as a wildcard playing member.

Gunter running into Lolo(Junior)-now that would be a crash

 

[FlashFlanker]

A lot of BBC boys playing in Global 10 s at Suncorp next week.

Qld Reds squad featuring BBC 2015 Senior Jayden Ngamanu

Brumbies squad featuring Tom Banks (2012) and Lolo Fakaosilea (2012)

Panasonic Wild Knights squad featuring Ben Gunter (2015)


NSW Waratahs squad with current BBC parent and coach Lote Tuqiri as a wildcard playing member.

Gunter running into Lolo(Junior)-now that would be a crash

Bronson Tuakipulu (2013) playing for Samoa.

 

[TheKing]

I posted an article on the front page a few days ago. There are 69 Brisbane based players playing across all teams - 40 attended school here.

GT and TSS had the most old boys playing with six apiece.


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[Keeper]

Word on the vine is that BBC has lost another of its stars (potentially 1st XV player this year) - this time to a league school of excellence. 3 + years of investment gone.

 

[TheKing]

Time to announce the new BGS #10.

Keebra Park's Daejarn Asi, a Cowboys-signed five-eighth and Australian U17 Touch representative.

Gives off a massive Quade Cooper vibe as an extremely talented wide distribution who is both mobile and deceptive.

here are the highlights:

 

[Blanco]

Massive Talent!! I would check the Cowboys signing, different to what I have heard.

 

[TheKing]

Massive Talent!! I would check the Cowboys signing, different to what I have heard.

I've confirmed it with a Cowboys teammate of his and the player's agent.

 

[The sage]

And that's why we will never be a top rugby union nation.


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No HTC we r a great rugby nation. Maybe not as successful as we would like to be. However what the King said is partially true except that playing both codes makes u a better rugby player. There is no clear evidence of this.

Most of the rugby greats have mostly played Union all their playing career, not a combination of both. Probably the most successful example of dual codes over the last 40 yrs would be mick o'connor and Lote tuqiri. Mostly backs except for probably one of the greatest forwards ever brad thorn; however the first and last were initially rugby players.

Now I know some of u will come up with examples of this guy and that guy, but I'm talking about greats not just very good footballer's. Not footballer's that would probably be fairly successful in either code.

With all the opportunities in rugby now, I cannot understand kids, except for initial financial reasons, why they would play 5 kick. Especially with 7's being an Olympic sport and rugby being the fastest growing sport in the USA, u watch the growth and money that will be offered in the next 10 yrs. it will make France look like a vinegar factory.


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[The sage]

Time to announce the new BGS #10.

Keebra Park's Daejarn Asi, a Cowboys-signed five-eighth and Australian U17 Touch representative.

Gives off a massive Quade Cooper vibe as an extremely talented wide distribution who is both mobile and deceptive.

here are the highlights:

Well congratulations to bgs hopefully that will improve things there. Hopefully these postings won't make him too nervous under the weight of expectation by some.


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