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Frank Row (1)
So after watching recent school/rep trials, has anyone revised their opinion on this year's GPS Premiership race?

For me:
NC/ACGS are front runners
BBC/GT are up there - BBC need to settle on the centre combination.
BSHS/IGS can rattle most sides - hope for no injuries.
BGS will have a crack but are struggling already with the injury toll.
I haven't seen TSS or TGS play. Looks like a great season ahead.
Linespeed, Today at 11:25 AM Report
I agree with you.good summary.TSS will be stronger than some people think.BSHS & IGS will run out of depth but will be strong at the start.

From what I've seen, some of the teams haven't fielded their starting lineup for the season. TGS and TSS in particular. Some of their boys recovering from injuries so have just decided to rest them I guess. I was told TSS withdrew a couple of their players from the GPS trials after invited to trial. A few of their boys who played for Qld schoolboys last year are now back and training and playing some games again. I think the half and one of or two of the forward pack for TSS who played Qld white last year are back and have been notable omissions. (Not sure of their names sorry) but will certainly strengthen the sides and provide some spark.

Round 1 will be interesting I suspect when teams are all hopefully at full strength.
 

Realdeal

Fred Wood (13)
Well week one is not far away... What the thoughts on the a teams from 13 years and up.... 13'A - 16a,s ... let's see who the real experts are???
 

Realdeal

Fred Wood (13)
Well I don't think any first XV team will go through undefeated although Churchie seem the most likely to achieve this.
1st XV - Churchie win with Nudgee and TSS close
2nds - NC win with BBC danger only on the back of the NC 16 results last year
3rds - NC only on there depth ??? Guess really
16a - BBC
15a - Terrace with Churchie and BSHS danger... Heard that BSHS have a great coach but lack numbers think he was the Nudgee 16's coach from last year??? A and BBC to improve as the season go with our man Whitey coaching..
14a - NC - my sons mate is in this side and have a number of quality league players... Good under age coach as well ..
13a - lottery but I'll tip Ippy with NC, TGS dangers
 

warrenwobble

Ted Fahey (11)
Well I don't think any first XV team will go through undefeated although Churchie seem the most likely to achieve this.
1st XV - Churchie win with Nudgee and TSS close
2nds - NC win with BBC danger only on the back of the NC 16 results last year
3rds - NC only on there depth ??? Guess really
16a - BBC
15a - Terrace with Churchie and BSHS danger. Heard that BSHS have a great coach but lack numbers think he was the Nudgee 16's coach from last year??? A and BBC to improve as the season go with our man Whitey coaching..
14a - NC - my sons mate is in this side and have a number of quality league players. Good under age coach as well ..
13a - lottery but I'll tip Ippy with NC, TGS dangers


16As - NC/ACGS/BBC
NC will want revenge and have probably recruited a few more Leaguies into the boarding house to make sure. ACGS have will have instigated the "Sunnybank clause"
15As - ACGS/NC/GT
Churchie Vs The Catholics here.
14As - GT/NC/TSS
The Catholics V The Catholics here. GT will think they will win it..NC to serve some reality up. TSS strong too.
13As - NC/ACGS/BBC
Was told NC super strong as usual. ACGS well coached and have depth. Have heard the BBC back line has some magic in it.
 

L Yates

Herbert Moran (7)
16As - NC/ACGS/BBC
NC will want revenge and have probably recruited a few more Leaguies into the boarding house to make sure. ACGS have will have instigated the "Sunnybank clause"
15As - ACGS/NC/GT
Churchie Vs The Catholics here.
14As - GT/NC/TSS
The Catholics V The Catholics here. GT will think they will win it..NC to serve some reality up. TSS strong too.
13As - NC/ACGS/BBC
Was told NC super strong as usual. ACGS well coached and have depth. Have heard the BBC back line has some magic in it.
warrenwobble, Today at 2:53 PM Report

You seem on the money/
BBC 16 A are expected to continue on their undefeated ways of last year.Thay will only lose 2 or 3 to 1st xv and have 2 new boys including a red-hot fullback transferred from BSHS.
BBC 14 A have 2 new boys from the Broncos-including one 6 foot2 centre said to be player of last years NRL under 13 carnival.
Yes-you are correct -many people saying the BBC13A backline is best in schools history with 3 Qld rugby league players and a WA schools player.They have put 50 points on TSS & and 55 on IGS in trials & drew 20 all with BSHS. BSHS 13A forward back is good.
 

L Yates

Herbert Moran (7)
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Well I don't think any first XV team will go through undefeated although Churchie seem the most likely to achieve this.
1st XV - Churchie win with Nudgee and TSS close
2nds - NC win with BBC danger only on the back of the NC 16 results last year
3rds - NC only on there depth ??? Guess really
16a - BBC
15a - Terrace with Churchie and BSHS danger. Heard that BSHS have a great coach but lack numbers think he was the Nudgee 16's coach from last year??? A and BBC to improve as the season go with our man Whitey coaching..
14a - NC - my sons mate is in this side and have a number of quality league players. Good under age coach as well ..
13a - lottery but I'll tip Ippy with NC, TGS dangers
Agree with most of what you say.But BBC & BSHS have put 50 points on IGS 13A in trials.BBC 2nd xv will have around 3 1st xv players from 2013 in it along with 2 or 3 boys from last years 2nds(fullback & prop) and should be strong​
 

Dark Shark

Alex Ross (28)
In response to Realdeal's query on age group expectations

First, let me preface that while prior year form can be a guide, there are some "X" factors that can really throw the form guide out the window.

The big "X" factor this year is that the age group rules have changed. If a boy was born after 31 October in previous year, he was allowed to play in the younger year if he wished. However, it is now all based on your age at 1 January in alignment with the ARU / QJRU age group rules. So some schools will see a few of their "A" players from last year move up into higher age groups. I am not sure of all the key movements this year.

Other "X" factors include new players, Year Group Immersions making players unavailable for certain weekends and even the home and away games. Some schools just perform abysmally away from their home ground at the moment.

So picking up on an earlier post in response to Realdeal, the 2nd XV and 3rd XV were mentioned. These are hard to pick, because the makeup of the First XV from two age/year groups can push good players down. Last year TSS dominated (undefeated) Opens because their year cohort's average age was well over 18, whereas most other schools struggle to get an average age much over 17.5. So once again, TSS would be favourites. Then in this age group last year GT was undefeated in all teams below the 16A's, so you would think they would be in the running. Then the next best school was NC where, excluding the losses to GT, only lost one other game during the entire season in the teams below the 16A's.
So in 2ndXV, 3rd XV I would say - TSS, GT, NC

16A's - this is a real flakey age group to pick the winner on past form because many of the gun players from 15's migrate into the First XV. However, BBC were undefeated last year in 15A's and do not seem to have lost too many up into their First XV. I do note that some of the games that BBC played in the 15A's were close calls. So if they go into the season believing their own press, then there could still be an upset. NC have been traditionally strong in this age group, being undefeated when they were 13's and 14's. However, last year, injuries to key players (from on and off field incidents) and I believe unavailability due to early T3 Immersion may have affected performance. ACGS lost two matches last year in 15's, and from very few of this team going into First XV should be thereabouts.
So in 16A's - BBC, NC and ACGS

15A's - NC and IGS topped the unofficial ladder in the 14A's last year, with one loss each. While NC have some v. good players, I thought their team work and tactics gave them the edge over other teams. I do not believe the NC team lose too many if any players up into the older age group with the new age rules. IGS seemed to rely on brute strength and individual skills and a lack of depth in the age group will always bight. The GT team in this age group were undefeated in the prior year when they were 13 but lost two matches to NC and an inconsistent BBC. I have heard they have lost at least 5 key players to the older age group so will be difficult for them to challenge unless key players really step up. BBC had the talent, but could not stick with it every game, maybe a further year of maturity will give them the week to week resolve
So in 15A's - NC, BBC and GT/IGS

14A's - NC by a country mile were undefeated last year as 13A's. Class players all over the field and well coached last year and will be again this year. They have picked up a big dynamic no8/centre and none of their key players are moving up to an older age group and their coach has also been the most successful "A" coach at Nudgee over last couple of years. A well coached ACGS team were the next best, only losing to NC. They grinded out a lot of their games and one key forward was a standout with his pilfering and defence to hold the other teams at bay. It may be difficult for them to repeat. GT lost two matches to NC and ACGS but had promising moments during the year. I have heard they are losing their big forwards to the older age group, so may lose some muscle up front. BBC may be the smokey but last year they were too inconsistent and their "additions" this year will have to really walk the talk to make a difference.
So in 14A's - NC, BBC and GT

13A's - can sometimes be a mystery until you see the teams gel together. I hear NC and BSHS have the cattle to successfully challenge most teams. If coaching is going to be the key factor, I would be leaning to NC based on the way their 13's played a well structured game last year. IGS have some big boppers but not much of a clue at the moment on how to play rugby. I have heard BBC have some good rugby players from around the traps, so they will also be putting up a good game as long as they are playing for each other.
So in 13A's NC, BSHS and BBC

I will leave the Firsts for another couple of weeks when team lists start to solidify.
 

HJ Nelson

Trevor Allan (34)
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14As - GT/NC/TSS
The Catholics V The Catholics here. GT will think they will win it..NC to serve some reality up. TSS strong too.

TSS 14A's still need a year or two to be a real chance. Nudgee scored 70 against them a few weeks ago in a trial.
 

Digby

Ward Prentice (10)
Well I don't think any first XV team will go through undefeated although Churchie seem the most likely to achieve this.
1st XV - Churchie win with Nudgee and TSS close
2nds - NC win with BBC danger only on the back of the NC 16 results last year
3rds - NC only on there depth ??? Guess really
16a - BBC
15a - Terrace with Churchie and BSHS danger. Heard that BSHS have a great coach but lack numbers think he was the Nudgee 16's coach from last year??? A and BBC to improve as the season go with our man Whitey coaching..
14a - NC - my sons mate is in this side and have a number of quality league players. Good under age coach as well ..
13a - lottery but I'll tip Ippy with NC, TGS dangers


Was up in Bundaberg earlier this year and sports section had a story about a local boy that was in the national team for athletics and under 14 Qld team for league and how he was going to Nudgee grade 9 on a scholarship. Big number 8 I think
 

Digby

Ward Prentice (10)
In response to Realdeal's query on age group expectations

First, let me preface that while prior year form can be a guide, there are some "X" factors that can really throw the form guide out the window.

The big "X" factor this year is that the age group rules have changed. If a boy was born after 31 October in previous year, he was allowed to play in the younger year if he wished. However, it is now all based on your age at 1 January in alignment with the ARU / QJRU age group rules. So some schools will see a few of their "A" players from last year move up into higher age groups. I am not sure of all the key movements this year.

Other "X" factors include new players, Year Group Immersions making players unavailable for certain weekends and even the home and away games. Some schools just perform abysmally away from their home ground at the moment.

So picking up on an earlier post in response to Realdeal, the 2nd XV and 3rd XV were mentioned. These are hard to pick, because the makeup of the First XV from two age/year groups can push good players down. Last year TSS dominated (undefeated) Opens because their year cohort's average age was well over 18, whereas most other schools struggle to get an average age much over 17.5. So once again, TSS would be favourites. Then in this age group last year GT was undefeated in all teams below the 16A's, so you would think they would be in the running. Then the next best school was NC where, excluding the losses to GT, only lost one other game during the entire season in the teams below the 16A's.
So in 2ndXV, 3rd XV I would say - TSS, GT, NC

16A's - this is a real flakey age group to pick the winner on past form because many of the gun players from 15's migrate into the First XV. However, BBC were undefeated last year in 15A's and do not seem to have lost too many up into their First XV. I do note that some of the games that BBC played in the 15A's were close calls. So if they go into the season believing their own press, then there could still be an upset. NC have been traditionally strong in this age group, being undefeated when they were 13's and 14's. However, last year, injuries to key players (from on and off field incidents) and I believe unavailability due to early T3 Immersion may have affected performance. ACGS lost two matches last year in 15's, and from very few of this team going into First XV should be thereabouts.
So in 16A's - BBC, NC and ACGS

15A's - NC and IGS topped the unofficial ladder in the 14A's last year, with one loss each. While NC have some v. good players, I thought their team work and tactics gave them the edge over other teams. I do not believe the NC team lose too many if any players up into the older age group with the new age rules. IGS seemed to rely on brute strength and individual skills and a lack of depth in the age group will always bight. The GT team in this age group were undefeated in the prior year when they were 13 but lost two matches to NC and an inconsistent BBC. I have heard they have lost at least 5 key players to the older age group so will be difficult for them to challenge unless key players really step up. BBC had the talent, but could not stick with it every game, maybe a further year of maturity will give them the week to week resove
So in 15A's - NC, BBC and GT/IGS

14A's - NC by a country mile were undefeated last year as 13A's. Class players all over the field and well coached last year and will be again this year. They have picked up a big dynamic no8/centre and none of their key players are moving up to an older age group and their coach has also been the most successful "A" coach at Nudgee over last couple of years. A well coached ACGS team were the next best, only losing to NC. They grinded out a lot of their games and one key forward was a standout with his pilfering and defence to hold the other teams at bay. It may be difficult for them to repeat. GT lost two matches to NC and ACGS but had promising moments during the year. I have heard they are losing their big forwards to the older age group, so may lose some muscle up front. BBC may be the smokey but last year they were too inconsistent and their "additions" this year will have to really walk the talk to make a difference.
So in 14A's - NC, BBC and GT

13A's - can sometimes be a mystery until you see the teams gel together. I hear NC and BSHS have the cattle to successfully challenge most teams. If coaching is going to be the key factor, I would be leaning to NC based on the way their 13's played a well structured game last year. IGS have some big boppers but not much of a clue at the moment on how to play rugby. I have heard BBC have some good rugby players from around the traps, so they will also be putting up a good game as long as they are playing for each other.
So in 13A's NC, BSHS and BBC

I will leave the Firsts for another couple of weeks when team lists start to solidify.


Congrats . Great article - very accurate.BBC 15A have great coaches but a lot of injuries. Key centre was expelled and 3 locks are all out for game 1.
BBC under 14 team has high hopes and for the first time will either 6 or 7 under 14 teams. You are right they were very inconsistent last year.
But Nudgee 14 A is the benchmark with new centre and new (huge) number 8
 

GSP

Fred Wood (13)
Top 2 predictions
1XV- NC/ ACGS
16A - NC/ ACGS
15A - NC/ IGS
14A - NC/ BSHS
13A - NC/ BSHS
The science behind your predictions is impressive(sic)
ACGS 16 A must have some great new recruits because they were beaten 25 -5 by BBC as 15As last year .
BSHS would hope for no injuries because they look like having only 2 teams in each age. But I do agree the BSHS 13A team is red hot
 

Realdeal

Fred Wood (13)
Interesting thoughts on the A teams . Well the new age criteria will have a bearing but I don't think the impact will be the significant factor with results this year. Some of last years highly rated players that played down an age will now just be well rated players. Looking back at all the comments I would love to know who does the recruitment at NC. It just seems they have the right model and someone that has an excellent eye for talent identification. Who does the recruitment there?. We should run a tipping comp on the underage comps?
 

Beer Baron

Phil Hardcastle (33)
Interesting thoughts on the A teams . Well the new age criteria will have a bearing but I don't think the impact will be the significant factor with results this year. Some of last years highly rated players that played down an age will now just be well rated players. Looking back at all the comments I would love to know who does the recruitment at NC. It just seems they have the right model and someone that has an excellent eye for talent identification. Who does the recruitment there?. We should run a tipping comp on the underage comps?


Bit offensive to the NC rugby department to put it down to recruitment. In the last 20+ years they have always been in the mix, not just in the firsts but down to 13F's. Depth plays the real key. having 7 or so teams per age group year on year combined with good coaches is the backbone. The widespread recruitment is only a recent thing, which doesn't explain the consistency of solid results.
 

Realdeal

Fred Wood (13)
Baron I do agree to some extent... The coaches over there have been good but I'm seen some very average A coaches win with a couple of great individuals on there team. I was just making the observation that the system over there seems to be the best and as we ALL know recruitment is the key when it comes to A teams. Agree, weight of numbers do plays a huge factor in success.
 

L Yates

Herbert Moran (7)
TSS 14A's still need a year or two to be a real chance. Nudgee scored 70 against them a few weeks ago in a trial.

Nudgee will put that score on a few other teams as well.They were brilliant last year and some of the new players (Tau Tau ? at 8) and the new centre are top shelf.
 

Roscoe

Frank Nicholson (4)
The science behind your predictions is impressive(sic)
ACGS 16 A must have some great new recruits because they were beaten 25 -5 by BBC as 15As last year .
BSHS would hope for no injuries because they look like having only 2 teams in each age. But I do agree the BSHS 13A team is red hot

BBC 15A would have lost a couple of games without Ikitau and Verevis. Forwards were ok, done enough without being the dominant. Backline was red hot especially off set piece.
I expect a couple of key backs (Ikitau, Smith, Simpson, Verevis) get a gig in 1st they will struggle for top 2 finish.
ACGS 15A have improved from the previous year and I don't think lose many to 1st. Could go either way for 2nd place but tipping NC 16A to take it out.
 

jack07

Chris McKivat (8)
BBC 15A would have lost a couple of games without Ikitau and Verevis. Forwards were ok, done enough without being the dominant. Backline was red hot especially off set piece.
I expect a couple of key backs (Ikitau, Smith, Simpson, Verevis) get a gig in 1st they will struggle for top 2 finish.
ACGS 15A have improved from the previous year and I don't think lose many to 1st. Could go either way for 2nd place but tipping NC 16A to take it out.
Ikitau is the only 15A from last year to be in the 1st's that I have heard at this stage.
With importing to the BBC especially some great WA boys the rest of the 15 A'S will find it hard to make the 1st's.
Barker has looked for committment to training -with the 1st 's rowing coach helping the rugby program.You are forgetting that Smith did not play against NC last year where BBC were all over them.They also had Cotton and Stead in the backline who were very strong also.Smith is still struggling with understanding union and his ability to pass in a backline and not continually running up with the ball and not passing.
Any of the 15As of last years backline have the skills but lets see who starts and ends the season in the 1st's at BBC as Barker is spoilt for choice.
I believe he will pick who will slot into the already 13 chosen ones the best.As only 2 positions on the backline still in contention.
Should be interesting, to see if the fittest make it in.
 

Realdeal

Fred Wood (13)
What are the BBC 15a like... Any new players and I have heard BSHS have got a few players in and a good coach ... Might be a surprise this year.. But don't know if it's true ... NC 15'a don't look as strong as previous years although NC were average last year ... Churchie look solid in trials and ippy off the pace but new coach might turn them around also
 

jack07

Chris McKivat (8)
What are the BBC 15a like. Any new players and I have heard BSHS have got a few players in and a good coach . Might be a surprise this year.. But don't know if it's true . NC 15'a don't look as strong as previous years although NC were average last year . Churchie look solid in trials and ippy off the pace but new coach might turn them around also
The 15As COACH for this year at BBC is the same one that last years 15As had and he is the reason I hear that they performed so well.
An exceptional Kiwi who's motivational talks before games gave the boys the belief that they could beat anyone .
The talk before they played NC in the 2nd round apparently pushed the boys to beat a team that the previous year they had lost 75-nil to and NC boys never recovered from.
Now he is there secret weapon to the new nursery of imports at BBC.I hear from last years boys that also as a specialist backs coach he has the skills and (when the imports mostly arrived the week before term 3 ) forsight to build and bind a team.
So the boys are just wondering who could still turn up for any age I hear it is building into a season to hold your breath in all ages and grades at BBC
 
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