QLD GPS Rugby 2013

[Digby]

OMG.just back fromGPS trials . In my view barring massive injury crisis TSS are the team to beat. They will dominate GPS1. Have not seen that much depth since BSHS in 2010. They are all fit and hard. Seriously their 2 nd xv this year will be tough to beat against a lot of 1st xv. Their flyhalf ruled the show. He was that good they played Bowen at fullback/ wing.

 

[Digby]

Just looking through the names of the BBC XV team list, is there anyone who isn't on a scholarship??

You could ask that question of any school 1st xv could you not?but one thing I do know as I have a brother in 16A team that beat GT in a trial today ( only 30 minute half) is :
1) all boys in grade 12 have been there at least 3 years with Bronson,Peterson,Saunders,Russell and a couple of others having been there since grade 8;
2)some of the indigenous boys are sponsored by Cmwth Govt /mining company JV as distinct from the school giving a reduction in fees.

 

[Jordan Ayton]

hey guys, be sure to like our facebook page to keep up with all the news and results coming out of the GPS comp

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[cyclopath]

hey guys, be sure to like our facebook page to keep up with all the news and results coming out of the GPS comp

https://www.facebook.com/australian.schools.rugby

Quit spamming the forum. Once was plenty. Don't push it.

 

[willreason]

OMG.just back fromGPS trials . In my view barring massive injury crisis TSS are the team to beat. They will dominate GPS1. Have not seen that much depth since BSHS in 2010. They are all fit and hard. Seriously their 2 nd xv this year will be tough to beat against a lot of 1st xv. Their flyhalf ruled the show. He was that good they played Bowen at fullback/ wing.

Your view is very restricted. I watched the trials as well and saw about 80 of the best schoolboys in Brisbane playing extremely good football in very slippery conditions. The tackling on the day was superb. How anyone could watch those trials and decide that "this school" or "that school" was outstanding is beyond me!!

 

[Digby]

Your view is very restricted. I watched the trials as well and saw about 80 of the best schoolboys in Brisbane playing extremely good football in very slippery conditions. The tackling on the day was superb. How anyone could watch those trials and decide that "this school" or "that school" was outstanding is beyond me!!

Dear Will. I respect your considered opinion but if :
1) Third is not GPS 1 flyhalf ;and
2) TSS do not have more GPS 1 players than any other school,
Then I will go to Valley Ink with Digby and get a tattoo that says"Will was right"
As for the GPS premiership - I am content for time to prove me right. Just so you are aware- this is not an emotional decision: I do not support TSS.

 

[Dark Shark]

I spoke to one of boys who was in the trials yesterday and he was saying that the TSS players were outstanding. He said the TSS front row were kept as a combination during the trials and just tore it apart. While knowing that other front rows did not have the same benefit of combinations, the thought was that if TSS dominate up front as they showed they were capable of yesterday, the other teams will not get enough ball to compete.

 

[The King]

Can anyone give me a list of boys who made it through to the gps teams?

 

[The Guru]

Dear Will. I respect your considered opinion but if :
1) Third is not GPS 1 flyhalf ;and
2) TSS do not have more GPS 1 players than any other school,
Then I will go to Valley Ink with Digby and get a tattoo that says"Will was right"
As for the GPS premiership - I am content for time to prove me right. Just so you are aware- this is not an emotional decision: I do not support TSS.

That is a pretty safe bet!

 

[gold heart]

Bgs old boy here from 25 years ago ... I'm just so full of pride with what we achieved last year.... It may or may not happen again this year but I really love GPS rugby and I wish all teams the best of luck ... At the end of the day this is what rugby should still be about ... Be competitive as heck but treat your opposition with respect and shake their hands and look at them in the eye at the end of the game. This is what rugby taught me.

 

[Nudgee Jackson Tame]

WORD HAS IT THAT TIM SIPPEL FROM THE 15's A of state high has resign his position of being scrumhalf and now has been replaced by vasili from the b team hopefully this will be his chance to show his skills at a higher level.

True, also have heard that sesura will be playing flyhalf with some out standing training going on and major improvement from his game play last year.

 

[SeaEagles]

Just looking through the names of the BBC XV team list, is there anyone who isn't on a scholarship??

Apparently there are quite a few are not on scholarship.

But why would you be questioning one school's scholarship count and not another schools anyway?

I played late eighties and at least 3 or 4 schools had imports and scholarship players back then. This is nothing new and it seems the playing field is now pretty even.

In fact it will get so silly - if you do bring it up - it will be like asking which NRL club has a local junior playing it...that's life get used to it.

Bottom line is boys playing first XV at school have to attend the school for a minimum period of time set out by the GPS.

Good luck to them all. And I think we are bloody lucky to see the awesome standard of rugby we now see at these matches.

 

[tripod]

Just back from NC - ACGS trial. Again numerous players out from both sides due to injury or GPS trials. Churchie very dominant early but structures fell away as game wore on and the trial squad got rotated. NC ended up about 6 tries to 3 winners and indicated their Sanix match experience and organisation made them better at this stage of the season. Churchie defence on their line kept NC out time and again in the first half. The ref generally played the right sort of trials style advantage and fairly sinbinned one from each side during the game just to remind players who was boss. Churchie #4 made several monstrous hits and he is apparently only Yr 11. His hit on NC #4 was as loud as I have heard in many seasons and I was 40m away from it. Churchie #10 had some good touches. NC #'s 13, 17 and 3 ran strongly all day. Churchie #15 made about 5 last line tackles in a composed performance. Still not much to go on here, maybe a slight favouritism to NC as both sides will improve with triallists funnelling back in over coming weeks and peripheral squad members returning to 2nds and 16As.

What a great post. Finally an impartial summary of a game without an apparent agenda for one team or another or one player or another, just the facts. Hope you get to more games over the season and let us who can't get to too many of them know how things went, without all the bs. Will enjoy reading more from you and gold heart.

 

[faceforrugby]

Lakehm is repeating at BGS. If you go back a couple of pages to Taipan's photos of the trial games you will see him. Looks like he ran out as captain. They've moved him to LHP this season so hopefully they have put a lot of time into his fitness. I can see him being one of the premier props in the GPS this season.

Onto BBC, is it true that they have actually imported an entire team? or is this just a rumour?

I hear BBC brought in a whole team in U14 this year after the disastrous year last year in U13 with most of the wests div 1 side and they still got flogged 47-5 on the weekend. Is this the risk of bringing in freebie students young?

 

[ARU Footy Keen]

Once more on TSS.
I know they've got a lot of their squad returning this year.

2. Jake Lyon
3. Sam Clifton
7. Luke Papworth
8. Evan Guttenbiel (Although I've heard rumours- unconfirmed- that he's being moved to loosehead)
10. Mitch Third
12. Nili Fielea
15/11. Isaac Nathan

Plus I think there's a few other regular 1st XV players. I'm looking forward to the likes of van den Berg, Dorrough, Brown and Lyons making the step up from 16A's. Is there any other new talent at TSS this year?

And one other thing- a quick scroll through last year's 15A line-up revealed a blindside by the name of Jamison Quirk. Any relation? And are we likely to see him step up into the flagship team in 2013?

Toby Greenup from the 2012 15A's is currently in the TSS squad. Superb defender, hard runner. Definitely a contender for Under 16 Queensland Red this year!!

 

[USARugger]

Monday's Expert

Had the pleasure of catching this match as well after watching the 16 A's and B's that morning. Those two or three hits by the Churchie #4 were absolutely earth shaking. He single handedly stopped the NC attacking momentum in its tracks. They also played as far from him as they could on some of the ensuing phases I believe his name is Sam but his last name is escaping me, his father is a former Wallaby.

You forgot to mention the superb high ball the Churchie 15 took out of the air near the NC try line in the last quarter of the game. It was a brilliant bit of skill and fearlessness.

The NC 14 was by far the fastest player on the field that day, can't remember if it was him or 21 that got the card though.

 

[Monday's Expert]

Apparently there are quite a few are not on scholarship.

But why would you be questioning one school's scholarship count and not another schools anyway?

I played late eighties and at least 3 or 4 schools had imports and scholarship players back then. This is nothing new and it seems the playing field is now pretty even.

In fact it will get so silly - if you do bring it up - it will be like asking which NRL club has a local junior playing it.that's life get used to it.

Bottom line is boys playing first XV at school have to attend the school for a minimum period of time set out by the GPS.

Good luck to them all. And I think we are bloody lucky to see the awesome standard of rugby we now see at these matches.

Well said. in the period before the GT stink in the papers about 4 years ago, there was a distinct 2 tier competition. There was IGS, ACGS, NC and TSS actively recruiting and there was BBC embracing a bit, BGS and GT philosophically opposed and BSHS with it as part of their charter as the flagship SHS but with hands tied at times by EQ rules about catchments and taking locals etc. TGS just sat up there on the range wondering what was happening. Now it is hardly even a talking point any more as every school is doing it - and good luck to them all - at least each week the game could go either way - isn't that what we all want? It amuses me to hear complaints about BBC "buying a team" - that is for their community to come to terms with, it comes down to a question of TID and cultural fit at the school the recruit comes to. I'm not sure why this even rates as a big deal anyway. There is a career pathway to Super XV and professional rugby worldwide from a GPS 1st XV and it is a legitimate profession for some. The GPS programs have excellent facilities and coaches and the schools, by and large, have excellent teachers and expectations and where every opportunity is given to a player who wanted to seek an education along with his rugby. The irritation I have is with the entitlement attitude of those who knock the scholarships who seem to think that because a boy was in a CIC 4A team, they should somehow be gifted a 1st XV start in Year 12. The GPS rules that SeaEagles mentions are supposed to stop flouting of this and I trust they are upheld but as for the rest of it - life is a meritocracy - have a go and if you are good enough, you'll get there but don't whinge and moan because another boy gets his chance in "your" spot. No one seems to moan about academic scholarship boys getting an OP1 when they get brought in.

 

[Dark Shark]

I hear BBC brought in a whole team in U14 this year after the disastrous year last year in U13 with most of the wests div 1 side and they still got flogged 47-5 on the weekend. Is this the risk of bringing in freebie students young?

Last year this team lost by an average of 52-4, so it is a small improvement in a trial game without any consequence. Still early days. BBC have done a lot of work to get their rugby programme back on the rails at all age levels.

Remember, it took BGS a couple of years from their shellacking at the hands of BSHS (in 2008 I think) before they managed to turn it around. At least it is better than doing nothing / same thing.

 

[GSP]

Apparently there are quite a few are not on scholarship.

But why would you be questioning one school's scholarship count and not another schools anyway?

I played late eighties and at least 3 or 4 schools had imports and scholarship players back then. This is nothing new and it seems the playing field is now pretty even.

In fact it will get so silly - if you do bring it up - it will be like asking which NRL club has a local junior playing it.that's life get used to it.

Bottom line is boys playing first XV at school have to attend the school for a minimum period of time set out by the GPS.

Good luck to them all. And I think we are bloody lucky to see the awesome standard of rugby we now see at these matches.

good response.

 

[GSP]

I hear BBC brought in a whole team in U14 this year after the disastrous year last year in U13 with most of the wests div 1 side and they still got flogged 47-5 on the weekend. Is this the risk of bringing in freebie students young?

Dear FFR
This is a thread about Schoolboy rugby.There is an entirely seperate thread about scholarships (with more readers than this thread)-so you may want to take your harp and tie to that thread about scholarships .
If you want to see some interesting ,educated writing on schoolboy "RUGBY"- have a look at my old sparring partner-Monday Expert above.

Yes the 14 A team got flogged by the GT team that were undefeated premiers last year and what a brilliant team it is :-replete with names on their jerseys and a note on the front that says "undefeated premiers 2012"Superb players they are but your post did not mention (in fairness it should have):
1)the BBC 14 B team beat GT 5 tries to 1.Meaning the BBC teams had a spread of A&B players in both teams.The boy in the 14B team from BBC who scored 3 tries is the youngest of 3 brothers.Brother 1 played in the first Aussie schoolboys team to win in NZ.Brother 2 is at Brumbies academy. JD s(who is in the GT 14A team) father told me it was the identical GT 13A team from last year.;
2)the BBC 15 A and 16 A teams also beat GT -without new players.How do I know?-because my neigbour is captain of the 16A team.His name is Lazarus(son of the Brick).
Unless you call his father an import as he is helping out as defence coach?

In short the GT 14A team was a pleasure to watch-but get your facts straight.