Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Bit harsh. Jones has had no opportunity to make his case.
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Labrum tears in both shoulders that he has carried for over 12 months. Not sure of the extent of the neck/head injury.
Beefcake
Bill Watson (15)
Nice result overall, toiled for long periods, wasted plenty of good possession.
Foley steadiness definitely helped given QC (Quade Cooper) senseless tangents in passing and running. QC (Quade Cooper) can really stray when hes inclined.
I'd suggest Cheika is adding substance to the tight game fix in his bench game. It wont necessary be KB (Kurtley Beale) alone but for a lack of cliches - it will be the full 23.
Enough of the dress rehearsal, lets see what it brings with the darkness.
Foley steadiness definitely helped given QC (Quade Cooper) senseless tangents in passing and running. QC (Quade Cooper) can really stray when hes inclined.
I'd suggest Cheika is adding substance to the tight game fix in his bench game. It wont necessary be KB (Kurtley Beale) alone but for a lack of cliches - it will be the full 23.
Enough of the dress rehearsal, lets see what it brings with the darkness.
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
It didn't though. even with Skelton still out there.
OK, the 3rd loosie is an open issue, but those two will start IMO.
Pass it to Dunning!
Bob Loudon (25)
But we'd struggle in the lineout with TPN starting.
The Red Baron
Chilla Wilson (44)
I'm fine with that. As long as our tight heads are doing their job in the scrums, I'm happy.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Lot to be more positive about as wallaby support in view of recent games
Was not convinced about Skelton but more convinced after performance against pumas
Don't buy Pumas are weak side as they left out key players against all blacks and with them entering super rugby they will get stronger which good for rugby
Seeing we have lot more options and depth - plenty of good bench options coming forward and Beale did alright and offered more food for thought as did mumm with his mobility
We actually look like we are going to be okay in terms of locks and depth as players as players like mumm and Douglas added and other players like Horwill and Skelton coming into form at right time
Not saying mumm proved done deal but performance against Pumas did his credentials no harm
Cooper still big question mark for me and how 'twas you can't see foley is better starting option than cooper is beyond me. But happy for cooper
to prove me wrong as Skelton did this game for
Me.
Lack of good kicking options a worry as to win rwc need to ensure getting 70/80 % conversion rate which none of recent goal kickers look close to achieving
Was not convinced about Skelton but more convinced after performance against pumas
Don't buy Pumas are weak side as they left out key players against all blacks and with them entering super rugby they will get stronger which good for rugby
Seeing we have lot more options and depth - plenty of good bench options coming forward and Beale did alright and offered more food for thought as did mumm with his mobility
We actually look like we are going to be okay in terms of locks and depth as players as players like mumm and Douglas added and other players like Horwill and Skelton coming into form at right time
Not saying mumm proved done deal but performance against Pumas did his credentials no harm
Cooper still big question mark for me and how 'twas you can't see foley is better starting option than cooper is beyond me. But happy for cooper
to prove me wrong as Skelton did this game for
Me.
Lack of good kicking options a worry as to win rwc need to ensure getting 70/80 % conversion rate which none of recent goal kickers look close to achieving
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
Cooper clearly isn't a 12 and the cameo there didn't do much good for him. Cheika should have sent Beale in. At least he has a combination with Foley.
Argies need to stop diving like soccer players.
Skelton needs to be taught the difference between being hard and being a twat.
But overall you'd take that result every day of the week.
Argies need to stop diving like soccer players.
Skelton needs to be taught the difference between being hard and being a twat.
But overall you'd take that result every day of the week.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
Is Argentina really a genuine Tier 1 team that is tough to beat at home?
How many TRC games have they won at home??
Hawko
Tony Shaw (54)
One. But they gave the Boks an almighty fright last year and beat us. They are very tough to beat at home.
BDA
Jim Lenehan (48)
They are definitely a genuine Tier 1 side. You only need to look at their record. They have plenty of wins over all of the Six Nations sides. They beat us last year and in 2013 they lost to us by 1 point, playing in Aus. They had a draw against SA in 2012 in Mendoza and lost to SA at the death last year.
They are clearly a competitive side, capable of beating the top teams on their day. The fact that they haven't beaten the All Blacks and the Boks in TRC is not a fair indicator. If the likes of Wales, Ireland and Scotland played in TRC I think you'd find they'd find things equally difficult. Like the Pumas, neither Ireland nor Scotland have ever beaten the Kiwis.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
A few thoughts on the game:-
- Pocock was my MOTM. He must start against the All Blacks. Whether you start Hooper too I'm not sure. Although at this stage it's getting hard to find reasons why you wouldnt start both of them. The scrum and line-out haven't really suffered with both of them there (even with Skelton on the field). Also is it a coincidence that both the Springboks and the Puma had almost 0 minutes of ball in the Wallabies' half (or in fact almost any attacking ball) when both were on the field.
- I can't remember our depth ever being this good, particularly in the forwards. Too many times in years past we have been hamstrung by the quality of our bench. It now is actually working in our favour. I'm still not confident that we can actually beat the all blacks but the impact from our bench is a positive sign that we should be able to keep up with them for the 80 minutes.
- holy shit Foley's kicking was tragic. Given that Cooper's form is pretty average, I'd say we have to go with Foley against the All Blacks but man if he kicks like that again then you cant play him at 10.
- Pocock was my MOTM. He must start against the All Blacks. Whether you start Hooper too I'm not sure. Although at this stage it's getting hard to find reasons why you wouldnt start both of them. The scrum and line-out haven't really suffered with both of them there (even with Skelton on the field). Also is it a coincidence that both the Springboks and the Puma had almost 0 minutes of ball in the Wallabies' half (or in fact almost any attacking ball) when both were on the field.
- I can't remember our depth ever being this good, particularly in the forwards. Too many times in years past we have been hamstrung by the quality of our bench. It now is actually working in our favour. I'm still not confident that we can actually beat the all blacks but the impact from our bench is a positive sign that we should be able to keep up with them for the 80 minutes.
- holy shit Foley's kicking was tragic. Given that Cooper's form is pretty average, I'd say we have to go with Foley against the All Blacks but man if he kicks like that again then you cant play him at 10.
Argentines.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Don't worry about it. Remember when Hooper used to win man of the match awards and finish last on the said ranker thingy?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Israel Folua has got to learn to straighten - the number of times he runs blokes out of room is ridiculous
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
^^^Not sure that a tweet like that will stay "up" too long.
Any hint as to the context of the tweet?
Any hint as to the context of the tweet?
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
I thought that was a very solid win against a team who are clearly no mugs. It would have been great to see how we would have gone in the backs had To'omua not been injured. I felt that in the early going we were going direct through his channel and getting over the gain line. The first half was a bit dusty but as time went on I thought we got better and better, to the point that we were winning running away by the end. The pigs had serviceable games and the back row in particular (including subs) established dominance by the end. We were too lateral in attack at times and missed too many tackles, but I put that down to the early disruption of MT going off.
Todays performance wouldn't be enough to worry the All Blacks but I'm happy that there is week by week improvement. Still, I think we need to beat them this year to have a chance at the RWC.
Todays performance wouldn't be enough to worry the All Blacks but I'm happy that there is week by week improvement. Still, I think we need to beat them this year to have a chance at the RWC.
Yeah. Like Jones wouldn't have scored that try!
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