Pumas vs Wallabies, 25th July 2015, Mendoza

[Langthorne]

Cheika looks to be doing a very good job of trying out different players without compromising the team's chances of winning from week to week. I also like it that he seems to be maintaining healthy internal competition.

Re Skelton in the scrums. For some posters, if Holmes struggles it will be all because of Skelton. Yet, if Holmes does well, it will be all because of Holmes.

 

[KOB1987]

Cheika looks to be doing a very good job of trying out different players without compromising the team's chances of winning from week to week. I also like it that he seems to be maintaining healthy internal competition.

Re Skelton in the scrums. For some posters, if Holmes struggles it will be all because of Skelton. Yet, if Holmes does well, it will be all because of Holmes.

no, if Holmes struggles it will be Kurtley's fault

 

[Train Without a Station]

If one has a history of good scrummaging and another has a history of bad, if you combination fails would you not be more likely to blame the one with the poor history?

 

[Sully]

Cheika looks to be doing a very good job of trying out different players without compromising the team's chances of winning from week to week. I also like it that he seems to be maintaining healthy internal competition.

Re Skelton in the scrums. For some posters, if Holmes struggles it will be all because of Skelton. Yet, if Holmes does well, it will be all because of Holmes.

Don't mess with a demi god!

 

[rawsteak]

Is abc grandstand covering it? If not is there a station I can stream commentary?

 

[cyclopath]

If one has a history of good scrummaging and another has a history of bad, if you combination fails would you not be more likely to blame the one with the poor history?

Didn't stop some people slating Skelton last weekend even though the side of the scrum suffering the most was the other at times. People see what they want to see. I thought the front row analysis linked in the Scrum Talk thread this week was excellent in terms of looking in detail at what went down at scrum time. I'd be most interested in good overhead views to see the alignment better, as I think working it out with only side on or oblique views is limited. Ledesma's mantra of tight and straight would be best seen from above, I think.

 

[Groucho]

Lets hope the puma fans haven't found this one.

You wouldn't want to scratch your nose.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Re Skelton in the scrums. For some posters, if Holmes struggles it will be all because of Skelton. Yet, if Holmes does well, it will be all because of Holmes.

Both could be true though. I reckon if Skelton has a nice stable platform he can clearly transfer his power effectively though the prop - but then every second rower should be at least able to do that. When things get out of whack in the front row, and it will happen to even the best, Skelton loses shape really badly and it can go wrong spectacularly. A good TH second row can "rescue" or at least mitigate a losing front rower. Don't think he's quite there yet.

Edit Have a look at the stills in this article. Skelton is in a bad position in nearly every one.

 

[KOB1987]

Both could be true though. I reckon if Skelton has a nice stable platform he can clearly transfer his power effectively though the prop - but then every second rower should be at least able to do that. When things get out of whack in the front row, and it will happen to even the best, Skelton loses shape really badly and it can go wrong spectacularly. A good TH second row can "rescue" or at least mitigate a losing front rower. Don't think he's quite there yet.

Edit Have a look at the stills in this article. Skelton is in a bad position in nearly every one.

That article is a really good analysis piece, thanks for that.

 

[USARugger]

Just woke up, grabbed a beer, and threw on the Wallabies top.

Then I realized that the 8:40 kickoff I read about late last night was AEST, not EST. I really didn't think this one through.

So, uh.. See you guys in a few hours..

 

[dru]

The LH side was where the penalties came from iirc.

Both sides had problems. Sipper/Simmo have a history of going OK, you would imagine the issue can be isolated and a reasonable chance of a quick fix.

No doubt it tightened up with the replacement props and Horwill.

 

[Tomikin]

Just woke up, grabbed a beer, and threw on the Wallabies top.

Then I realized that the 8:40 kickoff I read about late last night was AEST, not EST. I really didn't think this one through.

So, uh.. See you guys in a few hours..

but did you finish your beer ?

 

[rawsteak]

Is abc grandstand covering it? If not is there a station I can stream commentary?

Help me out people!

 

[USARugger]

but did you finish your beer ?

I'm not a savage.

 

[Marcelo]

I'm concerned about Cooper and Beale on the bench at the same time. If the team should defend an advantage they aren't the ideal back-ups.

Remember the last game in Cape Town with Beale at the last minutes. The Springboks took that crack in the backline

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Not long now folks.


Let's hope this lives up to the tension, drama and excitement of last nights sporting preliminaries - L'Alpe d"Huez on the Tour de France, and The Darkness vs Saffers in TRC.

 

[BarneySF]

Tomane listed at 89kgs. Seems a tad light no?


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[TSR]

Just woke up, grabbed a beer, and threw on the Wallabies top.

Then I realized that the 8:40 kickoff I read about late last night was AEST, not EST. I really didn't think this one through.

So, uh.. See you guys in a few hours..

Kick off time - I hope your awake.

 

[Marcelo]

Tomane listed at 89kgs. Seems a tad light no?


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The player data were incorrect at least by 60%

 

[Chunderstruck]

First time I've seen TK sing the anthem