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Nathan Sharpe (72)
is that an Amstrad?That's a different intern who sent it out by accident. The chimp is only responsible for typing it.
Press releases from the ARU Media Unit
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Arch Winning (36)
I'm baaaacckkkk
Australia’s Huge Year of Rugby set to continue after The Lions
3/19/2013
By ARU Media Unit
Glad you aren’t announcing the confirmation of the tentative schedule…. If we chop out the “final” it reads better.
Well I’m glad the Wallabies will be making their way down under. And The Championship isn’t continuing anything or seeing anything; you’ve made The Championship the subject of the sentence by placing it first but if chop out the guts of the sentence, we’re left with The Championship making its way Down Under.
But more importantly, players from eight of the top 10 teams are coming to Australia – the Lions are ONE side, not FOUR sides, and Wales, England, Ireland & Scotland are not all coming out as teams as well.
Look, I think it’s best if we just ditch this sentence – it’s woefully inaccurate and poorly worded.
Just six weeks after the British & Irish Lions tour, the Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship will kick off at ANZ Stadium as the Qantas Wallabies take on the All Blacks at ANZ Stadium in Sydney on August 17.
The following week the Qantas Wallabies will head to Wellington to take on the All Blacks once again.
The Qantas Wallabies will then take on the Springboks at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane on Saturday 7 September, then the ever-improving Pumas at Patersons Stadium in Perth on September 14.
The Perth Test will be the final on home soil for the Wallabies before they head to South Africa and Argentina for their remaining games in the Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship.
Following a bye weekend for travel the Qantas Wallabies will play the Springboks in Cape Town on September 28, then the Pumas in Rosario on 5 October.
ARU CEO Bill Pulver said the second annual Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship presented mouthwatering schedule of rugby after the highly-anticipated British and Irish Lions tour.
“The Qantas Wallabies, All Blacks and Springboks hold the top three rankings in world rugby and the Pumas have gained valuable international experience also. The stakes will be high.”
Reclaiming is also a whole word – no hyphen required. This is a terrible quote but I don’t have the heart to tear apart anything that says we have trophies…
Australia’s Huge Year of Rugby set to continue after The Lions
3/19/2013
By ARU Media Unit
Glad you aren’t announcing the confirmation of the tentative schedule…. If we chop out the “final” it reads better.
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Well I’m glad the Wallabies will be making their way down under. And The Championship isn’t continuing anything or seeing anything; you’ve made The Championship the subject of the sentence by placing it first but if chop out the guts of the sentence, we’re left with The Championship making its way Down Under.
But more importantly, players from eight of the top 10 teams are coming to Australia – the Lions are ONE side, not FOUR sides, and Wales, England, Ireland & Scotland are not all coming out as teams as well.
Look, I think it’s best if we just ditch this sentence – it’s woefully inaccurate and poorly worded.
Bahahaha – who on earth says “once in 12 year”? And does the tour come to a close, or does it “end”? Terrible.
Oh dear – this is where poor sentences come to die - commas that could be eliminated with a reworded sentence. Did you know that online articles are supposed to be short and clear?
Just six weeks after the British & Irish Lions tour, the Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship will kick off at ANZ Stadium as the Qantas Wallabies take on the All Blacks at ANZ Stadium in Sydney on August 17.
This is just bad writing.
The following week the Qantas Wallabies will head to Wellington to take on the All Blacks once again.
Should be a hyphen between ever and improving, don’t need the comma after September…and I’m pretty sure if we joined the above two sentences it’d read better.
The Qantas Wallabies will then take on the Springboks at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane on Saturday 7 September, then the ever-improving Pumas at Patersons Stadium in Perth on September 14.
Oh no. First of all, there should be an apostrophe after the s in Wallabies. But otherwise that’s a really convoluted sentence for what it’s trying to say. Still, I guess it’s good to have a signature writing style….I guess this is a “style”.
The Perth Test will be the final on home soil for the Wallabies before they head to South Africa and Argentina for their remaining games in the Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship.
Why is there a capital B for bye? And “return to action” – really? 41 words, 5 subjects covered without punctuation. Well done.
Following a bye weekend for travel the Qantas Wallabies will play the Springboks in Cape Town on September 28, then the Pumas in Rosario on 5 October.
Mouthwatering is actually a recognized word – didn’t need the hyphen. But you did need a hyphen between highly and anticipated. Not sure why you’ve given rugby a capital R. Following is not the fancier word for “after”.
ARU CEO Bill Pulver said the second annual Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship presented mouthwatering schedule of rugby after the highly-anticipated British and Irish Lions tour.
Geez this Pulveriser quote sounds a lot like Deans’ quotes… are we 100% sure BP said this, and it wasn’t written by the same guy who “writes” Deans’ material? The rugby won’t be replicated at all and it’s impossible to be both replicated and bettered.
Do they take up the top three places, or do they hold the top three places? I don’t want to put BP’s words in his mouth, but this quote makes about as much sense as Dingo’s. Again we’ve used a capital r for rugby. I would’ve preferred
“The Qantas Wallabies, All Blacks and Springboks hold the top three rankings in world rugby and the Pumas have gained valuable international experience also. The stakes will be high.”
Reclaiming is also a whole word – no hyphen required. This is a terrible quote but I don’t have the heart to tear apart anything that says we have trophies…
Were people worried about the shortage of exciting rugby? Why is there a capital r in rugby?
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
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Arch Winning (36)
Inside Shoulder it's not a hard and fast rule, but I felt that highly and anticipated were both used as adjectives where "highly" compounded the "anticipated" (if that makes sense 
) to describe the British and Irish Lions tour. So I paired them with a hyphen.
I wouldn't normally care but it had come immediately after the "mouth-watering" one and I was looking for where the hyphen could be used instead (if one were intent on using a hyphen at all).
) to describe the British and Irish Lions tour. So I paired them with a hyphen.I wouldn't normally care but it had come immediately after the "mouth-watering" one and I was looking for where the hyphen could be used instead (if one were intent on using a hyphen at all).
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
I can't recall ever seeing it hyphenated but I will research it during a boring point in my dayInside Shoulder it's not a hard and fast rule, but I felt that highly and anticipated were both used as adjectives where "highly" compounded the "anticipated" (if that makes sense
I wouldn't normally care but it had come immediately after the "mouth-watering" one and I was looking for where the hyphen could be used instead (if one were intent on using a hyphen at all).
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Rocky Elsom (76)
Any interns at your work, Inside Shoulder?
Use them to do the work for you.
It is only right to match like with like. To be fair and even with the ARU, you should only use the office junior to do that research because it looks like the ARU use their junior staff to prepare their Pressers.
Use them to do the work for you.
It is only right to match like with like. To be fair and even with the ARU, you should only use the office junior to do that research because it looks like the ARU use their junior staff to prepare their Pressers.
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Ted Thorn (20)
Cat_A, you will know they've hit rock bottom when you start seeing "should of" in the press releases. By the look of things it's not far off now.
Did the ARU really put out a missive with an American date format? Come here you clowns, no, closer: you're the AUSTRALIAN Rugby Union. Not Septic.
Don't do it again.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Maybe I sould send my writing to Cat_A for editing before publishing.
(Fingers crossed while chanting 'Please don't read my writing, please don't read my writing')
(Fingers crossed while chanting 'Please don't read my writing, please don't read my writing')
Gowers, The Complete Plain Words, HMSO 1983, pp 183-185 and The Right Word at the Right Time, Readers' Digest, London 1985, pp 275-278.
Give me time, IS, and I'll find a few more.
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Arch Winning (36)
To clarify, I wouldn't bother with the hyphen normally. In fact, modern custom is to reduce punctuation where you can to enhance readability. I think interrupts the flow of the eye through the sentence.
But there was a hyphen used in the sentence, and I thought "ok, if the hyphen is necessary where should it be instead".
But there was a hyphen used in the sentence, and I thought "ok, if the hyphen is necessary where should it be instead".
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
The whole world should just switch to ISO standard 8601 for dates: year-month-day. So, 2013-03-19.
Fucking simple and sensible. And it's in order of high to low, making it easy to sort by date: big (year), medium (month), small (day), then time if needed.
What the Americans do to dates is an abortion. medium-small-big. What the hell? How does that even make sense?
Rant over.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Gowers, editing the 2nd edition of Fowler, said:
"the primary function of the hyphen is to indicate that two or more words are to be read together as a single word with its own meaning..."
He later suggests that it is arguably determined by the desire to avoid ambiguity.
On either basis I cannot justify the use of a hyphen.
"when the first word of the compound is an adverb no hyphen is ordinarily needed..."
Now, I (and the OED) think that anticipated is a verb and I am therefore of the view that "highly" is an adverb and the foregoing general rule governs the situation.
Gowers may have changed his ideas between my 1965 edition of Fowlers and you 1985 publication (assuming he edited that and that they did not merely use his name).
The most recent Fowler's is of no use at all.
According to the entry Churchill abhorred them: I'm with him.
I-have-been-waiting-for-this-all-day.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Hmmm - " a single word with its own meaning" = Beer?
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Arch Winning (36)
Thanks Inside Shoulder and Lindommer for taking the time to look that up!
Also with him and you IS - if in doubt leave it out. (The same goes for apostrophes)
Feel free to mentally amend that one sentence in my post. I'll leave it in there for my, and everyone else's, future edification.
I'm loving what this thread throws up by the way. I had my reasons for putting it in where it was but I should've known to trust my initial instincts
Also with him and you IS - if in doubt leave it out. (The same goes for apostrophes)
Feel free to mentally amend that one sentence in my post. I'll leave it in there for my, and everyone else's, future edification.
I'm loving what this thread throws up by the way. I had my reasons for putting it in where it was but I should've known to trust my initial instincts
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
I'm with you on this one Ash. I do all orders in my business as 130320, which is 20 March 2013. The beauty of this numbering system is they file in chronological order. In a previous life I did them as 200313, and had a devil of a job finding them when I needed to. But Seppo-style 032013, or 132003, just don't make sense.
When travelling around China years ago, I was challenged over the validity of my visa: the officious little bastard picking a fight with me reckon it'd expired. But I twigged it was year/month/day (valid until 86-03-30) and convinced his mates it was still OK. Your suggestion a standard year-month-day format be adopted by all has some merit.
Now don't get me started on the Septic calendar style we seem to be adopting (weeks starting with Monday and end with Sunday, instead of Sunday to Saturday).....
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
The Septics are still back in the dark ages of imperial measurements FFS. They ain't gonna change anytime soon.
Surprised they dont still use cubits, pecks, firkins, and chains etc in their measurement system.
Firkin Yanks!
Surprised they dont still use cubits, pecks, firkins, and chains etc in their measurement system.
Firkin Yanks!
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