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SportsTragic
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Tri-Nations, lets concentrate on the present 1st (it's a bloody big enough job without being distracted)
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daz
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Agree. 3N for now. Presumably, one will hopefully follow the other....
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Michael Lynagh (62)
With injuries to TPN, Alexander, Horwill and Palu, plus Moore and Robinson only just making it back from injury for the 3N (and may struggle for form for the first half of the tournament), we simply don't have the pack to match it with the All Blacks and Boks.
I am really hopeful that our forward injury situation is much better for the World Cup (as we have no depth at prop, second row and number 8.), and that is what we should be aiming for as the 3N will simply be a bridge too far without a miracle.
I am really hopeful that our forward injury situation is much better for the World Cup (as we have no depth at prop, second row and number 8.), and that is what we should be aiming for as the 3N will simply be a bridge too far without a miracle.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
I dont really mean this year, but just as a policy, should the coaches be aiming to win the RWC, or aiming to win the Tri Nations?
At the moment I think Deans views the Tri Nations as some sort of unfortunate chore the Wallabies have to do every year before they can jog off the the RWC.
At the moment I think Deans views the Tri Nations as some sort of unfortunate chore the Wallabies have to do every year before they can jog off the the RWC.
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Tony Shaw (54)
Ash, hard, very hard, to disagree with you. In fact the most productive _realistic_ positive goal now maybe for a real breakthrough for the Oz S15 teams next year, leveraging the new format to the hilt.
Say, 4 S15 teams in the final 6, and 2 in the final 4 (is that possible in the new format?, anyway, you know what I mean). That type of achievement would probably be a positive pre-RWC proxy for all of: player depth, senior player confidence, quite a load of 'hard' games under the Oz belt, good pre-platform for the 2011 Wallabies. I don't think that 2010 EOYTs would necessarily be as good a 2011 platform builder as an outstanding 2011 S15 outcome.
Your thoughts?
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daz
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If so, that is clearly in contrast to the ARU (and most Oz rugby supporters). If I was JON I'm pretty sure I'd have the Tris as a heavily weighted KPI in Deans performance assessments....
Agree though that it may be too big this year. But if it all goes badly pear-shaped with no sign of improvement, my patience with RD will be at breaking point.
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David
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Agreed, All Blacks pre WC 2007 anyone?
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Phil Hardcastle (33)
I voted for the Tri Nations, not because I don't value the WC, but because they are the next tests to be played. The question itself is a false dichotomy - disregarding the Tri Nations will not help with the WC and we all know it, including Robbie Deans and the ARU (and I bet you a pound to a pinch of shit that if the Wallabies did win the Tri Nations and/or Bledisloe Cup all parties would be saying how well it bodes for the World Cup). Unfortunately, it will not happen (it really hurt writing that, and my inner optimist was saying "well, come on, maybe the Bledisloe?"), so we'll all just have to be content with building depth and playing what is in front of us in the hope that losing often really will prepare the Wallabies for World Cup glory.
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i believe supporting them to win the world cup would be better for the game in oz
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Mark Ella (57)
I know the Wallabies have very little chance of winning the 3N. In fact being realistic I think they will only win one, maybe two games this year. I want to see a marked improvement in the play. We have not seen that. Without a winning culture the team will not have any chance of winning at the RWC. They cannot string more than two wins back to back.
I am sick to death of the myth that is the depth building. What new players have been tried in the key areas of weakness, the second row, No.8 and 9?
Deans is safe until after the RWC, of that there is no doubt, but if he doesn't put out a team that makes a decent game of it and starts winning some of their matches against bigger opposition he will not get another stint and his dream of being ABs coach will also evaporate.
I am sick to death of the myth that is the depth building. What new players have been tried in the key areas of weakness, the second row, No.8 and 9?
Deans is safe until after the RWC, of that there is no doubt, but if he doesn't put out a team that makes a decent game of it and starts winning some of their matches against bigger opposition he will not get another stint and his dream of being ABs coach will also evaporate.
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