Oz U20 Team

[PaarlBok]

and there goes the Bokkies also. Hope this will mean the end of Saul and favouring Bulletjies. :angryfire:

 

[fatprop]

Scary when our forwards looked alright and our backs couldn't make a break.

 

[Spook]

Fitzpatrick was pretty ordinary by his standards. Dropped ball, poor throwing.

The Aussie loose head was bloody good. Some great charges.

 

[fatprop]

Fitzpatrick was pretty ordinary by his standards. Dropped ball, poor throwing.

The Aussie loose head was bloody good. Some great charges.

Point of order Spook, Slipper was good, but please ignore your Brumbie taint (bloody THPs being rated because they do great charges :angryfire, he was good because of his scrummaging, he was stable and strong at the set piece.

 

[Lindommer]

Kingi's decision to kick ahead when tackled in sight of the tryline, and his further decision to take a quick tap at the expense of a shot at goal just before halftime were poor and cost a potential 10 points and important momentum. Strong and capable litlle bugger but thought he overplayed his hand a little.

Aliied with underplaying his hand at ruck and maul time: he seems to have a mild dose of the Gregans with his dithering service which allowed the SAB backs to line up their defence. And don't forget the stupid box kick he put up in the second half which gained about two inches of territory while giving away possession. This eventually led to an SAB try. Not a good game young Richard, improvement needed.

Wasn't the NZ commentator one-eyed? You'd like to think the feed was neutral, as his co-commentator was. One good comment he made was the free kick awarded to Oz for numbers in the lineout; what a pointless stoppage that was. I notice we got pinged for the same infringement later in the game.

 

[formeropenside]

Fitzpatrick was pretty ordinary by his standards. Dropped ball, poor throwing.

The Aussie loose head was bloody good. Some great charges.

Point of order Spook, Slipper was good, but please ignore your Brumbie taint (bloody THPs being rated because they do great charges :angryfire, he was good because of his scrummaging, he was stable and strong at the set piece.

I thought Slipper was the THP. Another Queenslander, Anae, was the LHP.

 

[fatprop]

Fitzpatrick was pretty ordinary by his standards. Dropped ball, poor throwing.

The Aussie loose head was bloody good. Some great charges.

Point of order Spook, Slipper was good, but please ignore your Brumbie taint (bloody THPs being rated because they do great charges :angryfire, he was good because of his scrummaging, he was stable and strong at the set piece.

I thought Slipper was the THP. Another Queenslander, Anae, was the LHP.

yeah me wrong :-[

 

[chriscullen]

The fullback for NZ Robbie Robinson is highly regarded in NZ, was in the wider squad for Highlanders this year but was protected due to age. Plays for southland and last yr in a ranfurly Shield match against Auckland he made the Auckland pros look ordinary. His Southland coach thinks he could play at 10 as well. Luke Braid is Daniels little brother and as the All Blacks strugggle to find a replacement for MC Caw, Braid could well be that man come next year. he won Player of tournament at world u20s last yr.

 

[spectator]

Thanks for that. A contemporary of Robinson was Charlie Ngatai, a very good 15. Where is he at now?

 

[chriscullen]

Charlie Ngatai has transferred to Wellington and has made their Air NZ Squad team. He has a great swerve and a big step, like Cullen, but hes bigger about 96kg. Hard to say where Wellington will play him as he fits at centre or fullback. Another player who has big wraps on him with the "All Black in waiting" tag. Last year at just 18 he scored 3 tries in the Lochore Cup final Poverty Bay/Horowhenua match. Will be interesting to watch him with Wellington.

 

[spectator]

Quite admirable how NZ rugby holds back talent and has a depth of competition that bloods these young guys appropriately. The two mentioned, Robinson and Ngatai are in the same league as the Hornes, Beales,Coopers and O'Connors of the world and will make an impact when they hit the big time, but the difference is they will be totally ready for it. A similar pathway for OZ talent would be gold.

 

[Spook]

Fitzpatrick was pretty ordinary by his standards. Dropped ball, poor throwing.

The Aussie loose head was bloody good. Some great charges.

Point of order Spook, Slipper was good, but please ignore your Brumbie taint (bloody THPs being rated because they do great charges :angryfire, he was good because of his scrummaging, he was stable and strong at the set piece.

Pfft.."The Aussie loose head was bloody good" implied his scrummaging was bloody good. "Some great charges" was simply an extra point.

He also wasn't a TH!

 

[Lee Grant]

Quite admirable how NZ rugby holds back talent and has a depth of competition that bloods these young guys appropriately. The two mentioned, Robinson and Ngatai are in the same league as the Hornes, Beales,Coopers and O'Connors of the world and will make an impact when they hit the big time, but the difference is they will be totally ready for it. A similar pathway for OZ talent would be gold.

Well said that man, but because of our lack of depth S14 teams are using them before their time, and even competing for players whilst they are still at school. This is not too bad if it's for an Academy spot, but often you see them trotted out the year after they leave school, when they really need at least 2 years of physical conditioning to play against Bakkies and his mates.

But it is an old song we sing speckie.

 

[fatprop]

Quite admirable how NZ rugby holds back talent and has a depth of competition that bloods these young guys appropriately. The two mentioned, Robinson and Ngatai are in the same league as the Hornes, Beales,Coopers and O'Connors of the world and will make an impact when they hit the big time, but the difference is they will be totally ready for it. A similar pathway for OZ talent would be gold.

Well said that man, but because of our lack of depth S14 teams are using them before their time, and even competing for players whilst they are still at school. This is not too bad if it's for an Academy spot, but often you see them trotted out the year after they leave school, when they really need at least 2 years of physical conditioning to play against Bakkies and his mates.

But it is an old song we sing speckie.

and people still think we can fill a 5th team

 

[formeropenside]

Quite admirable how NZ rugby holds back talent and has a depth of competition that bloods these young guys appropriately. The two mentioned, Robinson and Ngatai are in the same league as the Hornes, Beales,Coopers and O'Connors of the world and will make an impact when they hit the big time, but the difference is they will be totally ready for it. A similar pathway for OZ talent would be gold.

Well said that man, but because of our lack of depth S14 teams are using them before their time, and even competing for players whilst they are still at school. This is not too bad if it's for an Academy spot, but often you see them trotted out the year after they leave school, when they really need at least 2 years of physical conditioning to play against Bakkies and his mates.

But it is an old song we sing speckie.

and people still think we can fill a 5th team

thats usually the point I make.

 

[rugbywhisperer]

Quite admirable how NZ rugby holds back talent and has a depth of competition that bloods these young guys appropriately. The two mentioned, Robinson and Ngatai are in the same league as the Hornes, Beales,Coopers and O'Connors of the world and will make an impact when they hit the big time, but the difference is they will be totally ready for it. A similar pathway for OZ talent would be gold.

Well said that man, but because of our lack of depth S14 teams are using them before their time, and even competing for players whilst they are still at school. This is not too bad if it's for an Academy spot, but often you see them trotted out the year after they leave school, when they really need at least 2 years of physical conditioning to play against Bakkies and his mates.

But it is an old song we sing speckie.

and people still think we can fill a 5th team

thats usually the point I make.

why if everyone seems to know this do the ARu allow it to continue to happen still - jees - its easy to do but why not

 

[Pfitzy]

why if everyone seems to know this do the ARu allow it to continue to happen still

$$$$

 

[rugbywhisperer]

Personally I think more greed and the fear of losing those players. " Lock em in, give them some game time but at least we have them attitude - bugger the player and his development".
Seems like a need for some higher intervention if our franchises can't see the big picture - I have called many times for all U21 players to be in a parallel s14 tournament - run concurrently as a curtain raiser to the main game.

 

[rugbywhisperer]

Does anyone have any ideas as to whther there is a pod/broadcast of our game today - or whenever it is?

 

[spectator]

Does anyone have any ideas as to whther there is a pod/broadcast of our game today - or whenever it is?

Vague notion that Fox Sports is showing games on Monday morning?