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Nucifora - Wallaby Coaching Co-Ordinator

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Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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So I asked around and heard Nucifora was coaching the breakdown on the GC the other day, Williams the lineout, Noriega the Scrum, Blake defence skill drills and the kicking I guess is still being done by Braam via video. That leaves Deans to Coach attack, backs I suppose - 5 coaches with the team full time plus Braam. It certainly has grown by stealth and must be costly to cart this bunch around

Really, the extra head you wouldn't expect would be Nuci - most other teams have the rest? His salary is already on board though, no?

However, I'm happy we at last have someone taking account of the breakdown/ tackle contest - on our podcast with Sharpey it was clear no-one was tasked with it up until now, which considering it's the crux of the modern game, especially against the ABs, is pretty unbelievable.
 

Riptide

Dave Cowper (27)
Surprised to read that Williams is not taking responsibility for the breakdown. That has always been his purported area of core competence, to use some good jargon-speak. When he held that responsibility, Munster were the sharpest operators at the breakdown in Europe.
 
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Red Rooster

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Really, the extra head you wouldn't expect would be Nuci - most other teams have the rest? His salary is already on board though, no?

However, I'm happy we at last have someone taking account of the breakdown/ tackle contest - on our podcast with Sharpey it was clear no-one was tasked with it up until now, which considering it's the crux of the modern game, especially against the ABs, is pretty unbelievable.

How many coaches do you need tasked? Deans coached with Hammett every week and did well. Now they only play on average every 3 weeks yet there are 3 x as many coaches for the same task - I reckon three is the number and the AB's have been proving that for some time
 
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Red Rooster

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Really, the extra head you wouldn't expect would be Nuci - most other teams have the rest? His salary is already on board though, no?

However, I'm happy we at last have someone taking account of the breakdown/ tackle contest - on our podcast with Sharpey it was clear no-one was tasked with it up until now, which considering it's the crux of the modern game, especially against the ABs, is pretty unbelievable.

Yes his salary is already on board but that is to do other things - my point is that while he is hanging around the Wallabies the other things dont get done or the other job is not necessary - one or the other
 

Spewn

Alex Ross (28)
Too many chiefs. Why don't we elect a rugby parliament to make decisions for the greater good of the wallabies. I say get rid of him.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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How many coaches do you need tasked? Deans coached with Hammett every week and did well. Now they only play on average every 3 weeks yet there are 3 x as many coaches for the same task - I reckon three is the number and the AB's have been proving that for some time

Well if you count Pato in your 5, then you also need to count the likes of Mike Cron and Alec Evans - making the magic number 4, and... (see below)

Too many chiefs. Why don't we elect a rugby parliament to make decisions for the greater good of the wallabies. I say get rid of him.

....the fourth member would now seem to be Jim Williams.
 
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Couch Norm

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Red Rooster, good to read that you are challanging the system and not the players.

It is all about the quality of coaches. Are the coaches the best coaches in the country or are they there because they toe the company line. We need coaches that are going to challange each other. They way the Wallabies play, you don't see any evidence of it. Same style same game plan same unforced errors.

Is it me or when I watch the pre-match warm up, if I was a player there body language wouldn't give me a winning confidence. They seem like cardboard cut outs being moved around field.
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
Well if you count Pato in your 5, then you also need to count the likes of Mike Cron and Alec Evans - making the magic number 4, and... (see below) ....the fourth member would now seem to be Jim Williams.

At this time and place for the Wallabies, I am far more concerned with quality in depth and effectiveness in this coaching group, than raw cost. The revelations from Gagger's chat with Horwill reported elsewhere today are simply dynamite - that Nuci is de facto required, inter alia, to coach the tackle contest and breakdown generally as, seemingly, Williams was not doing this well enough (then couple this with the prior Sharpie revelation on podcast that really no Wallaby coaching was directly focussed on the breakdown).

As Gagger has rightly said, there can be few other areas of the modern game more important for technical, S&C, mental and team coaching/training than the breakdown/tackle contest, and all that goes with it. If it now takes Nuci or Alan Jones or Bob Dwyer to come in and coach that area, I will feel far better than what I felt on sighting the ridiculous, third-rate way our forwards approached - or rather did not - the breakdown in this year's first Test...and that feeling was a replica of one many of us have experienced over so many years of watching a sub-standard forwards performance by the Wallabies in this area of play, and losses directly or indirectly resulting. Here has been the great Australian rugby heart of darkness, a place of shame and deficiency that no drugs could ever cure.
 
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Red Rooster

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At this time and place for the Wallabies, I am far more concerned with quality in depth and effectiveness in this coaching group, than raw cost. The revelations from Gagger's chat with Horwill reported elsewhere today are simply dynamite - that Nuci is de facto required, inter alia, to coach the tackle contest and breakdown generally as, seemingly, Williams was not doing this well enough (then couple this with the prior Sharpie revelation on podcast that really no Wallaby coaching was directly focussed on the breakdown).

As Gagger has rightly said, there can be few other areas of the modern game more important for technical, S&C, mental and team coaching/training than the breakdown/tackle contest, and all that goes with it. If it now takes Nuci or Alan Jones or Bob Dwyer to come in and coach that area, I will feel far better than what I felt on sighting the ridiculous, third-rate way our forwards approached - or rather did not - the breakdown in this year's first Test...and that feeling was a replica of one many of us have experienced over so many years of watching a sub-standard forwards performance by the Wallabies in this area of play, and losses directly or indirectly resulting. Here has been the great Australian rugby heart of darkness, a place of shame and deficiency that no drugs could ever cure.

Dont disagree with your sentiments but it also suggests that for the last 4 years there has been inadequate coaching going on at the breakdown or Jim Williams has suddenly become a bad coach? The fact that it is now being addressed a month before the RWC suggests some sort of inadequacy - Whose fault is that?
 
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Couch Norm

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How much time is put into scrum training? (20 - 30 scrums in a game) There is 3 to 4 times the amount of breakdown/tackle contest in a game. How much time is spent at training in the breakdown?
 

Groucho

Greg Davis (50)
Dont disagree with your sentiments but it also suggests that for the last 4 years there has been inadequate coaching going on at the breakdown or Jim Williams has suddenly become a bad coach? The fact that it is now being addressed a month before the RWC suggests some sort of inadequacy - Whose fault is that?

Heads must roll!
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
How much time is put into scrum training? (20 - 30 scrums in a game) There is 3 to 4 times the amount of breakdown/tackle contest in a game. How much time is spent at training in the breakdown?

That's an astute and fair question CN as it relates to coaching resources and time devoted to it by same. And, to point, the scrum area has a dedicated Wallabies specialist coach in Noriega.
 
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antipodean

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I'm amazed at Nucifora's addition to the coaching team. I wonder at whose invitation it was he joined. Clearly not the players...

If the Wallabies have a scrum coach, Jim Williams must be relegated to kick offs and lineouts.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
If the Wallabies have a scrum coach, Jim Williams must be relegated to kick offs and lineouts.

I wouldn't be too dismissive about restarts. Games can be won and lost by teams that have a dominant kick-off. Wobs vs NZ in Melbourne last year comes to mind.
 
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antipodean

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I'm not being dismissive of them, but if that is the case then why not just have Nucifora do that too?
 
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