NSW U16 - schools, NSWJRU / SJRU / CRJU 2013
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Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Has anyone seen the U 16 Schools Trials Competition Manual or a Draw or anything for this weekend at Knox?
IIRC, you used to be able to download these from the NSW Schools Website in the past.
IIRC, you used to be able to download these from the NSW Schools Website in the past.
Ruck & Maul 101
Allen Oxlade (6)
Didn't Scots and Kings already play each other?
Ruck & Maul 101
Allen Oxlade (6)
Didn't Scots and Kings already play?
Rugby Mum 2
Bill Watson (15)
They did and I think Scots won. The discussion was in the context of Joeys playing both these teams. Both Scots and Kings will be very strong and should be good games of footy.
Cattledog
Sydney Middleton (9)
The draw for Friday U18 & Saturday / Sunday U16 Championships is now up in the news section of the NSWSRU website.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Interesting Draw once again.
Potentially a GPS 1 vs GPS 2 final.
ISA beat CHS in yesterday's trial and as a reward draw the red hot favourite for the title in Game 1, with the consequence that the best they can hope for is coming "5th" if they do not beat GPS 1.
Meanwhile one of AICES or Country can finish no lower than 4th.
Imagine if ISA win game 1 by some fluke and face off against GPS 2 in the final with GPS 1 playing off for 6th/7th in the Bowl Final.
Anything is possible.
Potentially a GPS 1 vs GPS 2 final.
ISA beat CHS in yesterday's trial and as a reward draw the red hot favourite for the title in Game 1, with the consequence that the best they can hope for is coming "5th" if they do not beat GPS 1.
Meanwhile one of AICES or Country can finish no lower than 4th.
Imagine if ISA win game 1 by some fluke and face off against GPS 2 in the final with GPS 1 playing off for 6th/7th in the Bowl Final.
Anything is possible.
Brainstrust
Watty Friend (18)
The Grant & King discussion is pointless. One plays league, the other afl. These boys never seem to make themselves available to be considered along side and or against the best players in the age group. Until they either trial and show their stuff , or actually run and win a GPS 100, the whole discussion is a waste of time. We are much better focussing on the merits and abilities of young men that are dedicated to the game and are prepared to put themselves through the highs and lows of being selected or missing out. Until they are prepared to do that I can't get on board the band wagon...if they do prove themselves, then brilliant.
Wood Rat
Alfred Walker (16)
Presidents 1st XV hit the ground running and scored a try in the 1st 5 minutes and failed to convert, Once the ISA forwards took control the Presidents star back line became irrelevant. ISA scored before the break wide on the end of one of the few good back line movements of the game, without converting.
ISA remained camped I. The Presidents 1/3 for well over 15 minutes of the 2nd half without taking points
Presidents win 5-5 and ISA continue to play for 5th place???
I don't think any of the lads on the field will feel that way
ISA remained camped I. The Presidents 1/3 for well over 15 minutes of the 2nd half without taking points
Presidents win 5-5 and ISA continue to play for 5th place???
I don't think any of the lads on the field will feel that way
Wood Rat
Alfred Walker (16)
Presidents 1st XV hit the ground running and scored a try in the 1st 5 minutes and failed to convert, Once the ISA forwards took control the Presidents star back line became irrelevant. ISA scored before the break wide on the end of one of the few good back line movements of the game, without converting.
ISA remained camped I. The Presidents 1/3 for well over 15 minutes of the 2nd half without taking points
Presidents win 5-5 and ISA continue to play for 5th place???
I don't think any of the lads on the field will feel that way
ISA remained camped I. The Presidents 1/3 for well over 15 minutes of the 2nd half without taking points
Presidents win 5-5 and ISA continue to play for 5th place???
I don't think any of the lads on the field will feel that way
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Wood Rat, It is almost as predicted above. ISA were the second best team at U16 last year, but yet the draw consigned them to the 3rd v 4th playoff.
This year it sounds as if they are comparatively better and yet they will finish no better than 5th.
Hardly sounds fair.
It is so unfair of the ISA to draw with the predestined favourites. The President must have to increase the salary cap to restore the natural and predetermined state of affairs.
This year it sounds as if they are comparatively better and yet they will finish no better than 5th.
Hardly sounds fair.
It is so unfair of the ISA to draw with the predestined favourites. The President must have to increase the salary cap to restore the natural and predetermined state of affairs.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Guilty as charged, but in my defence M'Lud I will submit that the last document I saw on the Under 16 Schools tournament stated that the draw was based on seeded positions based on previous performance.
I can't recall too many tournaments where Seed 1 plays Seed 2 in the opening match, with the prospect that the loser can finish no higher than 5th place.
I also did postulate that there was a distinct possibility that GPS A could also find themselves on the wrong side of that result, which appears to have been 1 conversion away from happening.
Fairness in tournaments (especially knockout ones) is based on shaping things such that all things being "normal" the better teams should progress to a point where the two best teams face off in the final. If an underdog knocks off a favoured team, then they deserve to reap the rewards of an "easy" run in the draw until they face up to the Final.
I can't recall too many tournaments where Seed 1 plays Seed 2 in the opening match, with the prospect that the loser can finish no higher than 5th place.
I also did postulate that there was a distinct possibility that GPS A could also find themselves on the wrong side of that result, which appears to have been 1 conversion away from happening.
Fairness in tournaments (especially knockout ones) is based on shaping things such that all things being "normal" the better teams should progress to a point where the two best teams face off in the final. If an underdog knocks off a favoured team, then they deserve to reap the rewards of an "easy" run in the draw until they face up to the Final.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
And if I read the draw correctly:
"Meanwhile one of AICES or Country can finish no lower than 4th."
So AICES beat Country in Game 2, and I assume lost to GPS A in Game 6 and therefore are in 3rd/4th play off Plate Final game.
I reserve the right to not be surprised when the NSW Schools U16 team is not full of AICES players.
If those dastardly selectors DARE to choose more than one or two boys from the team that comes 5th, then we may see a Hugh rant. Either Selectors or Organisers, but someone will probably cop it.
"Meanwhile one of AICES or Country can finish no lower than 4th."
So AICES beat Country in Game 2, and I assume lost to GPS A in Game 6 and therefore are in 3rd/4th play off Plate Final game.
I reserve the right to not be surprised when the NSW Schools U16 team is not full of AICES players.
If those dastardly selectors DARE to choose more than one or two boys from the team that comes 5th, then we may see a Hugh rant. Either Selectors or Organisers, but someone will probably cop it.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
The Taxi Driver
Allen Oxlade (6)
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Don't forget the GPS kicker, Storey also missed a relatively easy goal conversion in front that hit the uprights. I do agree though that the top 4 teams are Pres A, Pres B, ISA and CHS. It would be good to have a real round robin over two weekends as you don't gain much information when teams run in 60+ points to 0. Best games have been ISA/Pres A and CHS/Pres B.
Don't forget the GPS kicker, Storey also missed a relatively easy goal conversion in front that hit the uprights. I do agree though that the top 4 teams are Pres A, Pres B, ISA and CHS. It would be good to have a real round robin over two weekends as you don't gain much information when teams run in 60+ points to 0. Best games have been ISA/Pres A and CHS/Pres B.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
^^^^ Now THAT would be a Friday detention if it had cost the game, and put GPS A into the 5th v 6th play off.
Any results summary?
Any results summary?
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Good to see the injustice of last year when GPS 2 had the humiliation of drawing with CCC in the 5th/6th playoff has been righted and we have a GPS v GPS final.
I look forward to seeing some AICES boys in the NSW Schools team.
I look forward to seeing some AICES boys in the NSW Schools team.
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