NSW CAS Rugby 2021

[rod skellet]

But that's not quite what the guidelines say. They're not completely clear, I have to say, but as I read them, a player can be cleared of having concussion if he (or she) is cleared by an appropriate doctor not less than "two sleeps" after the impact. The 19 days only applies if a player is not cleared. So, here, I assume what happened is that the player was assessed on Monday or Tuesday and cleared. If that happened (and I have no direct knowledge of this), then there's no issue.

That procedure makes sense, I guess, because the referee (usually) isn't a doctor and can't diagnose concussion. He can only make a call on what he sees, and the precautionary measure of issuing a blue card is just that, and not a definitive diagnosis.

Snort. You assumption on what happened did happened. Ned was assessed Saturday evening and on Monday. Cleared both times.

 

[Bolivia]

Game over.
Waves 39 Cranbrook 17.

Well done Waves today. Too big and too strong. Brook fought hard all day, but went missing for 10-15 mins after Half time - and that's all Waverley needed. The rest of the game was fairly even.
As for the refereeing..........

 

[Crashy]

Respect to Alos for giving it a go and smart move to call time as they were running out of reserves. However poor form to note the year of commencement of the Alos team in the program, if they have an issue its not really the place to raise it.

Then on the final page of the program they talk about their Bursary program which they state is not to win trophies, premierships or boost ATAR's but seeing they require students to be assessed on academic potential doesn't add up. (Note I am an Aloys old boy and many in my year don't like the academic focus the school is heading in, as most of our diverse year would not qualify today)

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thats actually quite funny. I am a Barker Old Boy and we're bemused at the clear decline of rugby in the junior age groups - the U14s my god.... watching your seconds get pumped but firsts winning is odd. ( i assume the barker seconds won this week tho).

 

[rod skellet]

Yeah nah rod. What a load of crap.

Everyone who was at the game and seen the tape knows that Ned was clearly concussed, he clearly stumbles- a sign of concussion. So hopefully they have followed the steps above. Will send through a complaint to rugby aus. They will be in contact.

So you have not spoken to any headmasters, you have no idea on the true medical assessment of the player involved and you call Barker College as "flaunting the rules.. Looks like the rantings of the uneducated. No more oxygen for you. Credibility ZERO.

 

[Running_rugby_1954]

So you have not spoken to any headmasters, you have no idea on the true medical assessment of the player involved and you call Barker College as "flaunting the rules.. Looks like the rantings of the uneducated. No more oxygen for you. Credibility ZERO.

Want me to post the tape of the kid stumbling over after he got his head caught badly in a tackle instead Rod?

Take off your red glasses for once mate. We know it’s hard when they are stuck on with super glue.

 

[Bolivia]

So you have not spoken to any headmasters, you have no idea on the true medical assessment of the player involved and you call Barker College as "flaunting the rules.. Looks like the rantings of the uneducated. No more oxygen for you. Credibility ZERO.

You are ignoring the incident. He was barely able to get up and almost fell over.....he displayed obvious signs of being concussed. That is why he was blue carded.
I'm glad he is fine, and that it wasn't more serious, because it didn't look good!

 

[Running_rugby_1954]

^^^^^^^

This point here Rod.

Red Glasses, take them off.

 

[Overtime]

^^^^^^^

This point here Rod.

Red Glasses, take them off.

Putting some of you lads on a football field, it seems, could end in a clash not dissimilar to the ending of Anchorman.

 

[rod skellet]

Want me to post the tape of the kid stumbling over after he got his head caught badly in a tackle instead Rod?

Take off your red glasses for once mate. We know it’s hard when they are stuck on with super glue.

You are all missing the point. What ever you saw on the field was not reflected in the expert medical opinion that this lad received on two occasions after the game. Its that medical opinion that counts. Not "how it looked on the field." Barker looks after their players, as is represented by the treatment of McIntyre. To suggest otherwise is completely wrong. To show how all headmasters are on the same page, in the interest of the Aloys boys who suffered several injuries, and may well of suffered more, todays game was finished early. It could have only been a player welfare issue that caused that. My view on player welfare is not coloured by glasses. Its influenced by facts. Most of the commentators here are short on facts. Mores the pity.

 

[Running_rugby_1954]

^^^^^

That’s not how blue cards work Rod.

Rugby aus will be in contact mate. Let Dean know will you?

Looking after player welfare against aloys? Like they did last year?

 

[rod skellet]

^^^^^

That’s not how blue cards work Rod.

Rugby aus will be in contact mate. Let Dean know will you?

Looking after player welfare against aloys? Like they did last year?

Why would Rugby Aust listen to you????

 

[rod skellet]

seeing on the GPS blog that O'donnell could be out. Big loss for the GPS side if that is true.

 

[Flavio]

Do you think if they had any concerns they would have played him today and risk anything happening seeing that there is 7 weeks (49 days) from the Cranbrook Game to the Waverly game. Its not as if they needed him today

 

[Running_rugby_1954]

Why would Rugby Aust listen to you????

They aren’t listening to me. They are listening to their own guidelines.

 

[Bolivia]

Do you think if they had any concerns they would have played him today and risk anything happening seeing that there is 7 weeks (49 days) from the Cranbrook Game to the Waverly game. Its not as if they needed him today

CAS 1stXV Captaincy perhaps.......

 

[Snort]

Not sure why there's even a debate here. If it's the case that the player was passed by a doctor, there's no issue. That much is plan from the RA guidelines.

And I have no connection with Barker.

 

[rod skellet]

Not sure why there's even a debate here. If it's the case that the player was passed by a doctor, there's no issue. That much is plan from the RA guidelines.

And I have no connection with Barker.

Agree totally Snort.

 

[WLF]

Haven't seen him play this year, but Schocher (W) must be in line for one of the CAS sides. He certainly knows where the tryline is.

Sounds like you were at DV today Snore, should have told me!!

 

[Snort]

CAS site has gone down. Historically, that means the teams are going up.

 

[Hector]

Alright, side-stepping some of the controversy, a small take on Barker winning at Willoughby.

(1) Barker from 1 to 15 (possibly with the exception of 13) were dominant and easily a class above. Their defence, their set piece, but probably most impressively their spacing in attack, was way too good for their opponents. Whenever counter-attack was on, Barker were sublime: spaced, accurate passing and full of speedy running.
(2) As Rod observed, the Red scrum was dominant. There weren't 5 tight-heads (if the ref didn't call some of them up there would have been 5 plus, but I had about 3 or 4). The Barker #3 is sensational, as probably is their whole front 5. If their whole front row is the CAS front row, I'll be behind them (note - I've only seen the Aloys games this year, so if the Knox and Waverley boys are better, they must be unbelievably good!).
(3) In open field, the Barker forwards were something else. The Barker #1 was the best player on the field, all day. He had multiple 30-40m runs in short succession. Not fair behind was #8, whatever the Blue Card scenario from last week happened or didn't, he was outstanding today.
(4) The Barker #10 was good, in fact very good, but even with all that front foot ball, he didn't dominate such that he was on another level, which some of us were expecting. In fact, I though the #9 probably changed the game more than Katoa.
(5) On a positive for the SAC boys, and for all the rubbish going on with some of the schoolboys posting their BS and sledging about CAS selection and doing them a disservice, #13 Wood for Aloys was easily their best, and not far behind was #12 Bruton. After Frankie the Aloys #10 went off in the first half, they each moved in one to result in a great tricky grubber kick try from Bruton to Wood, but Wood was absolutely all over the place all afternoon, and I think outplayed his opposite, the only one to come close to doing so in Blue and Gold. #12 Bruton had a bad ankle injury in the 2nd half as well. They had 4 reserves on before Barker had any.
(6) Rod said the game was called up early, and it might have been, but it wasn't readily observable. It was at 4.39pm when full time was called, and I only know that because I was noting the time for when Barker ran their reserves on. No changes until they subbed #1, #5 and #8 at 4.32pm when the score was already 68-8 (and I didn't see any other reserves coming on at any other stage).
(7) Lastly, that was an excellent SAC crowd at Tyneside, one of the largest turnouts for a home game in a long time. An indigenous jersey for the Aloys boys, a smoking ceremony by Elders beforehand, the indigenous Redfern Jarjum College little kids as well as the Aloys Yr 3 and 4 junior boys running out with the players through the tunnel to start the game and the big 'sorry' banner were all a class act.