NSW CAS Rugby 2020

[Flavio]

My predictions are

Alos would have won the comp undefeated, but bomb out in the HSC
Knox win the Table tennis
Trinity win the cricket
Cranbrook win each other
Waverly lose their 1st XV as the league clubs are broke
Barker win because all that time spent training and playing is spent spading their female classmates

 

[Snort]

So every other sporting medium is replaying old games to fill their programming.

In that spirit, let me throw this in - what was the strongest year ever in CAS Rugby?

Guidelines would include: beating GPS, getting players into Australian Schoolboys, and future Wallabies/other representative players. And generally speaking, the strength should be spread across schools, rather than there being one dominant school.

Let me start by eliminating my Year 12 (1979). From memory, CAS 1sts did beat GPS, but only two players (Andrew Ugarte and Toby Jones) got into one of the weaker Australian schools teams anyone can recall, and though a handful of players made it into First Grade after school, no-one got any further. So 1979 is out.

Any thoughts?

 

[WLF]

So every other sporting medium is replaying old games to fill their programming.

In that spirit, let me throw this in - what was the strongest year ever in CAS Rugby?

Guidelines would include: beating GPS, getting players into Australian Schoolboys, and future Wallabies/other representative players. And generally speaking, the strength should be spread across schools, rather than there being one dominant school.

Let me start by eliminating my Year 12 (1979). From memory, CAS 1sts did beat GPS, but only two players (Andrew Ugarte and Toby Jones) got into one of the weaker Australian schools teams anyone can recall, and though a handful of players made it into First Grade after school, no-one got any further. So 1979 is out.

Any thoughts?

Agree Snort about 1979 although some of the Aussie schoolboy selections were disgraceful, 2 boys I know 1 from Scots and 1 from Barker (you probably know who) were at this level for sure and better than the boys who got in.

My 2 bobs worth is 1981, both Joeys and Waves had tremendous teams that year,both undefeated all season, GPS beat CAS on the bell, but the schoolboys toured the UK and were undefeated by a long way. I can name a few Waves boys who went on with it, Matt Burke, his brother Brad and Tim Kava, there was also Colin Scotts from Scots and I am sure there were some Joe boys in that Aussie team.

 

[Snort]

Agree Snort about 1979 although some of the Aussie schoolboy selections were disgraceful, 2 boys I know 1 from Scots and 1 from Barker (you probably know who) were at this level for sure and better than the boys who got in.

My 2 bobs worth is 1981, both Joeys and Waves had tremendous teams that year,both undefeated all season, GPS beat CAS on the bell, but the schoolboys toured the UK and were undefeated by a long way. I can name a few Waves boys who went on with it, Matt Burke, his brother Brad and Tim Kava, there was also Colin Scotts from Scots and I am sure there were some Joe boys in that Aussie team.

Yes, selections in general were pretty weird in 1979. There was a future Wallaby captain playing at school that year - he (Nick Farr-Jones) was in Newington's 2nds. There was a future Waratah winger playing too (David Croft) - in the Scots 2nds.

1981 was a great Waverley year, and you'd do well to beat Burke, Burke and Kava in any season. Were the other schools very good though? It was a dismal year for Trinity.

 

[WLF]

Yes, selections in general were pretty weird in 1979. There was a future Wallaby captain playing at school that year - he (Nick Farr-Jones) was in Newington's 2nds. There was a future Waratah winger playing too (David Croft) - in the Scots 2nds.

1981 was a great Waverley year, and you'd do well to beat Burke, Burke and Kava in any season. Were the other schools very good though? It was a dismal year for Trinity.

Yes Snort, the Joeys side was red hot, Sydney high was also red hot and came so close to winning it, I think Joeys beat them by 2, Scots was also very good. Maybe any GPS watchers can help re names, in fact there was plenty of interest, as always, to see the GPS winners play the CAS winners, but even for 1 sat game,couldn't be done, should happen every year imo.

 

[rod skellet]

So every other sporting medium is replaying old games to fill their programming.

In that spirit, let me throw this in - what was the strongest year ever in CAS Rugby?

Guidelines would include: beating GPS, getting players into Australian Schoolboys, and future Wallabies/other representative players. And generally speaking, the strength should be spread across schools, rather than there being one dominant school.

Let me start by eliminating my Year 12 (1979). From memory, CAS 1sts did beat GPS, but only two players (Andrew Ugarte and Toby Jones) got into one of the weaker Australian schools teams anyone can recall, and though a handful of players made it into First Grade after school, no-one got any further. So 1979 is out.

Any thoughts?

Welcome back Snort. Not that you have really ever left. Your question is a worthy topic and one that I will apply some cranium space too. I think in ten years time if you asked the same question again I think the 2017 & 2018 years will do well

 

[WLF]

Welcome back Snort. Not that you have really ever left. Your question is a worthy topic and one that I will apply some cranium space too. I think in ten years time if you asked the same question again I
think the 2017 & 2018 years will do well

Hello Mr Skellet! Agree, those 2 years would stand up well.

 

[Jonte]

In terms of a 2nd XV, apart from a couple of players returning from last year (Elder, Braham, Johnson etc.), it would be too difficult to pick with upto 35 boys more than capable of playing in that side. It will come down to the internal trials for most spots. What I will say, is the Waverley 3rd XV will be twice as strong as last year, and that's scary....

Brother Murph described last years 3rds as the quickest and most skilful 3rds he has seen (that dates back to the 70s) There will be boys that were in the 3rds last year that will not make the team.

 

[WLF]

Just to clarify, my understanding is the Waverley boys parents approached Cranbrook - Unhappy with the Academic side of things?? (There may be other reasons?)
In the process of trying to get in to Cranbrook, they have asked (why wouldn't they) for any type of bursary etc.

Cranbrook only has 2 all round scholarships available for a Year 9 or 10 boy (I think). The Martin Pitt & The Matt Street scholarships. There maybe 1 other indigenous scholarship, but not sure.

Cranbrook would only accept someone if either of those scholarships are up for renewal. Happens every 2-3 years.

As for "offering positions to quite a few" - Rubbish! Don't think your source is correct.

Hi mate, trust you are all well!

If we get to play the CAS comp in term 3, what is the format at Easts?
By that I mean, do the 1sts and 2nds play on the Friday night before the sat, what time, or is it just the 1sts?
I assume all other Cranbrook home games in that round are played at Colleagues?

I would think we would all luv to see 2 games, eg 2nds at say 5.30pm and then 1sts at 7.30pm, and I bet the club would $ prefer 2 games. If the 2nds play on the sat, I assume they sit on the bench for the 1sts game?

Cheers!

 

[Flavio]

From our local club

The SJRU is targeting 26th July (subject to all the caveats around government restrictions) to get back on the field, with team training hopefully allowed from Tuesday 30th June onwards. Shute Shield is looking to commence the same weekend as SJRU, and subbies the weekend before on 18th July. Lots of uncertainty yes, but we have a target to work towards to get junior rugby back onto the field – nothing specific is required of clubs yet, I will be in contact in due course about what will happen next.

 

[WLF]

From our local club

The SJRU is targeting 26th July (subject to all the caveats around government restrictions) to get back on the field, with team training hopefully allowed from Tuesday 30th June onwards. Shute Shield is looking to commence the same weekend as SJRU, and subbies the weekend before on 18th July. Lots of uncertainty yes, but we have a target to work towards to get junior rugby back onto the field – nothing specific is required of clubs yet, I will be in contact in due course about what will happen next.

Nice work Flav, my intel is school footy is being planned for term 3, with the Athletics season being shortened by a few weeks, which I think makes sense as both sports will be able to be completed.

 

[MarkG94]

What happens to M Amestero of Waverley? Didn’t he have another year?

I imagine no comp this year, but Barker 1st XV boys are still training just in case there is a chance of games ahead!

Signed a contract with french rugby and is no longer at Waverley college.

 

[WTF?]

So will the shutdown of Waves due to a positive Covid-19 case push the start of the proposed CAS season back do you think?

 

[Rob42]

So will the shutdown of Waves due to a positive Covid-19 case push the start of the proposed CAS season back do you think?

It shouldn't. This won't be the last school to have to shut down for a day or two while they trace contacts to the positive students and do some cleaning. Any re-start of inter-school sport will need to address the possibility that a student tests positive on a Monday - what happens to the students of the opposition school they played on the previous Saturday? If it's a contact sport like rugby, they will all presumably have to lock down for two weeks.

 

[ZHC]

Hopefully it won't, as that's not due to term 3. And as @Rob42 noted, it won't be the last school to shut down either.

FYI, Waverley started non-contact training last week, Tue/Thu afternoons and Saturday morning down at Death Valley.

The latest news, is that the school will be closed until Friday, when it reopens for face to face learning.

What will be interesting, is whether this Saturday's morning session will go ahead? And if doesn't, when do they restart?

 

[Flavio]

Drove past Tyneside Oval and Alos were training yesterday

 

[Waverley Till I Die]

Whats the deal with 16s footy this year, is it a good comp. If so what are everyones prediction for each team

Waverley looking strong, I reckon Waverley got it but knox and barker could be a challenge.
Predicted Waverley 16 A's
1. AJ Preketes
2. Jasper Doyle
3. Metui Fuka
4. Charlie Nowlan
5. Patrick Hoggett
6. Jesse Sonego
7. Ethan Halatakoua
8. Lucius Capadona
9. Tom Martin
10. Nick Quinn
11. Ronan Schocher
12. Baxter Senior
13. TJ Speedy Coe
14. Lachlan Smith
15. Dane Towns

 

[CAS Rugby 1010]

Waverley looking strong, I reckon Waverley got it but knox and barker could be a challenge.
Predicted Waverley 16 A's
1. AJ Preketes
2. Jasper Doyle
3. Metui Fuka
4. Charlie Nowlan
5. Patrick Hoggett
6. Jesse Sonego
7. Ethan Halatakoua
8. Lucius Capadona
9. Tom Martin
10. Nick Quinn
11. Ronan Schocher
12. Baxter Senior
13. TJ Speedy Coe
14. Lachlan Smith
15. Dane Towns

I am assuming that means both alos and cranbrook are putting up average teams in the year below.

 

[Snort]

Well, suddenly it looks like there could be a season. Community sport can resume on 1 July. Assuming the schools don't play in the holidays, five CAS rounds could be played on the last weekend of July and the four Saturdays in August.

Does anyone have any actual information on what's planned? I assume schools are now scrambling to schedule 1st XV trials for three weeks time.

 

[WLF]

Well, suddenly it looks like there could be a season. Community sport can resume on 1 July. Assuming the schools don't play in the holidays, five CAS rounds could be played on the last weekend of July and the four Saturdays in August.

Does anyone have any actual information on what's planned? I assume schools are now scrambling to schedule 1st XV trials for three weeks time.

Hi Snort,

The CAS board of schools was meeting today to develop/lock in this plan around the timing you mentioned.
There will be trials mid July prior to the start of the CAS comp.

I will post any relevant info as I hear it.