NSW AAGPS Rugby 2016

[Inside Shoulder]

Watching the Bunnies? - you've only yourself to blame!

Couldn't help feeling the kid got some bad advice. After I lost interest I think he got a head knock and came off.
These boys who get to play this game in possibly the strongest schools comp should stick with it - whether it brings them fame or fortune or just good times.

 

[RonnyGibbs]

New should be considering whether or not its 'marketing' strategy to young rugby talent is failing and/or appropriate following events like that. Attracting talent then have it leave rugby just after GPS selections indicates that either New has failed as a school or he attended the school for the wrong reasons. There is much more to school than rugby/sport. Some other schools are equally as guilty. Im not a Joeys supporter (i am a K supporter) but the bondship shown by the Joeys 1s between themselves and to the Kings 1s after the game was impressive. Joeys are clearly succeeding as a rugby team and a school - this year anyway.

 

[Quick Hands]

I thought it was Kuenzle's slick passing and astute decision-making that really allowed the backline perform as well as it did.

I suspect his influence was what was missing in the early games that they lost.

 

[Quick Hands]

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I would have to tip Joeys . particularly if Joeys still have that rampaging 8 .Miti#? Versus a relatively in-experienced and young (albeit talented) Harris at 8. And without Shannon . you will effectively have 3 Aussie Schoolboys Backs versus 0

Rain forecast for the rest of the week. If Joeys employ the same tactics as they did last time we played during an east coast low, they'll lose again.

 

[Quick Hands]

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As of yet, it is unsure but he seemed rearing to go yesterday.

It would be a brave and/or foolish coach who would make any unforced changes to that side. They seem to be playing as a cohesive unit with the type of team spirit that wins the close ones. Their style of play makes their wingers and fullbacks the least important players on the field.

 

[RonnyGibbs]

New should be considering whether or not its 'marketing' strategy to young rugby talent is failing and/or appropriate following events like that. Attracting talent then have it leave rugby just after GPS selections indicates that either New has failed as a school or he attended the school for the wrong reasons. There is much more to school than rugby/sport. Some other schools are equally as guilty. Im not a Joeys supporter (i am a K supporter) but the bondship shown by the Joeys 1s between themselves and to the Kings 1s after the game was impressive. Joeys are clearly succeeding as a rugby team and a school - this year anyway.

Agree,
Newington are poor they have no direction or strategy and
no model
Joey have been good for along time and will always be. Joeys model is not attainable with the borders so others can't compete

 

[Black & White]

Agree,
Newington are poor they have no direction or strategy and
no model
Joey have been good for along time and will always be. Joeys model is not attainable with the borders so others can't compete

Very easy to be critical over one boy, to whom you know nothing of his circumstances. As for team/ school spirit the fact that Newington have pulled together in the second round and won two close games, speaks volume about their character. Their pick and drive and the precision of their recycling and phase ball against Scots was a revelation to watch. Quite simply you cannot judge an entire school and its rugby programme on one incident.

As for HFTH comments about Marketing the Game at Newington. If memory serves me correctly the rugby numbers at Kings, with the exception of your open division are fast diminishing from their tradition depth. So where is your Rugby Marketing Strategy. Soccer is now your major winter sport in the age divisions. This has been the situation at Newington for many years, yet we still punch above our weight in GPS rugby.

I don't know the 14As result against Scots, but we won 13s,15s and 16s with a great deal less depth than Scots. Who have massive depth.We also won all the A games against Shore in round one, another school that surpasses us in rugby depth.

In order to do that you must a direction,strategy and a model. But above all you must have boys who love their Rugby and play for their school. On Saturday I was so proud to see our 13As recover from a 12-35 loss against Scots in round one, to see them win 40-0 nil. Such an improvement was obtained by excellent coaching,training and participation that has its foundations in a system founded on direction, strategy and a model. To say otherwise and all you do is display your ignorance about Newington, its rugby, the boys who play the game they love and the coaches who achieve so much with so little depth, compared to other GPS schools. .

 

[sweetjesus]

excellent coaching,training and participation that has its foundations in a system founded on direction, strategy and a model

. .

Newington has always (apart from current year 11) 'smashed' the younger age groups employing the strategy of recruiting some big bruisers to run the length of their small pitches - of the current year 12, Bradley and Tyrone enjoyed their time in the sun. Your argument, relying on A grade results is not convincing

 

[Not in straight]

Newington has always (apart from current year 11) 'smashed' the younger age groups employing the strategy of recruiting some big bruisers to run the length of their small pitches - of the current year 12, Bradley and Tyrone enjoyed their time in the sun. Your argument, relying on A grade results is not convincing

Getting into dangerous territory

 

[RonnyGibbs]

Very easy to be critical over one boy, to whom you know nothing of his circumstances. As for team/ school spirit the fact that Newington have pulled together in the second round and won two close games, speaks volume about their character. Their pick and drive and the precision of their recycling and phase ball against Scots was a revelation to watch. Quite simply you cannot judge an entire school and its rugby programme on one incident.

As for HFTH comments about Marketing the Game at Newington. If memory serves me correctly the rugby numbers at Kings, with the exception of your open division are fast diminishing from their tradition depth. So where is your Rugby Marketing Strategy. Soccer is now your major winter sport in the age divisions. This has been the situation at Newington for many years, yet we still punch above our weight in GPS rugby.

I don't know the 14As result against Scots, but we won 13s,15s and 16s with a great deal less depth than Scots. Who have massive depth.We also won all the A games against Shore in round one, another school that surpasses us in rugby depth.

In order to do that you must a direction,strategy and a model. But above all you must have boys who love their Rugby and play for their school. On Saturday I was so proud to see our 13As recover from a 12-35 loss against Scots in round one, to see them win 40-0 nil. Such an improvement was obtained by excellent coaching,training and participation that has its foundations in a system founded on direction, strategy and a model. To say otherwise and all you do is display your ignorance about Newington, its rugby, the boys who play the game they love and the coaches who achieve so much with so little depth, compared to other GPS schools. .

Newington have no strategic direction or plan. Here is one

1. Work with soccer to move them off Stanmore
2. Make the old boys a normal size footy field across
3. Make the Buchanan a normal size footy field across
4. Build a performance centre much like the rowing has done with Concordia
5. Work on a better recruitment policy. The best players in the 16s are full fee paying students and all rounders ie do other stuff than just rugby.

Newington has no vision

 

[Hugh Jarse]

^^^Do you think their High Performance Centre should include an altitude chamber?

I reckon that most parents would be happy if they spent money on quality staff and education facilities.

 

[RonnyGibbs]

^^^Do you think their High Performance Centre should include an altitude chamber?

I reckon that most parents would be happy if they spent money on quality staff and education facilities.

New has recently built the Pyke, the Rae buildings and a new year 7 wing. Severington is now under construction. New expenditure of the past years is greater than 20 mio. Having three boys going there I am more than happy education and staff. But the boys still train and play on tiny fields

 

[Black & White]

Newington have no strategic direction or plan. Here is one

1. Work with soccer to move them off Stanmore
2. Make the old boys a normal size footy field across
3. Make the Buchanan a normal size footy field across
4. Build a performance centre much like the rowing has done with Concordia
5. Work on a better recruitment policy. The best players in the 16s are full fee paying students and all rounders ie do other stuff than just rugby.

Newington has no vision

What you devise is wonderful, provided the money is available and support from the whole Newington community is behind it. But in a school where soccer is a more numerous sport such wishful thinking is restricted by the politics of Sport.Rugby must share the grounds with soccer. One idea I might suggest is to rent and develop Marrickville Oval and Henson Park. Again this all involves money. I would agree that the Old Boys Ovalsl should be redevelop and remove the Tennis courts off school. Equally, the ground that is the Car park opposite the Headmaster's residence and that of the School Chaplin could be redevelop. But the school plans school buildings, I believe for a Year 7 Centre.

So it has very little to do with a rugby vision, but rather the long term educational strategic priorities of the school. Maybe some Old Boy could inherit or make a fortune, buy up all the homes surrounding Newington and our dreams of expanded grounds could a reality. Even then the school would have to get approval from the local council.

 

[Black & White]

Newington has always (apart from current year 11) 'smashed' the younger age groups employing the strategy of recruiting some big bruisers to run the length of their small pitches - of the current year 12, Bradley and Tyrone enjoyed their time in the sun. Your argument, relying on A grade results is not convincing

A typical Shore School excuse about Newington"s Rugby success in recent years, that actually belittles Shore and their players. Good results occur because of teamwork, school spirit, good coaching and a belief in one self and their ability to deliver on the Rugby Field. I suspect Shore's improved results are a product of such an outlook, as is Newington's results.

Rather than seeking excuses, as a Shore supporter you should be so proud of your boys and what they have achieved. With special mention to your 16As who I believe until this year, had never beaten another GPS. Now, they are skilled, tough and dangerous opponents respected by all schools.

So, please tell us about how Shore are now doing the "Hard Yards" in order to get their improved results, rather than the usual excuses about Newington's Rugby, in order to excuse the past shortcoming of Shore's Rugby Programme.

 

[RonnyGibbs]

What you devise is wonderful, provided the money is available and support from the whole Newington community is behind it. But in a school where soccer is a more numerous sport such wishful thinking is restricted by the politics of Sport.Rugby must share the grounds with soccer. One idea I might suggest is to rent and develop Marrickville Oval and Henson Park. Again this all involves money. I would agree that the Old Boys Ovalsl should be redevelop and remove the Tennis

courts off school. Equally, the ground that is the Car park opposite the Headmaster's residence and that of the School Chaplin could be redevelop. But the school plans school buildings, I believe for a Year 7 Centre

So it has very little to do with a rugby vision, but rather the long term educational strategic priorities of the school. Maybe some Old Boy could inherit or make a fortune, buy up all the homes surrounding Newington and our dreams of expanded grounds could a reality. Even then the school would have to get approval from the local council.

You can call it a LT educational strategy or a strategic direction for rugby, same same
The simple fact is that no one is tabling any ideas or looking to the future. Until such a time New will continue to win a handful of games each weekend and if we win the firsts we have had a great day.

 

[Black & White]

You can call it a LT educational strategy or a strategic direction for rugby, same same
The simple fact is that no one is tabling any ideas or looking to the future. Until such a time New will continue to win a handful of games each weekend and if we win the firsts we have had a great day.

And your solution to the problems of Limited Space, money and the competing interests of soccer is ?.

I would be most interested in hearing your views

 

[Inside Shoulder]

What you devise is wonderful, provided the money is available and support from the whole Newington community is behind it. But in a school where soccer is a more numerous sport such wishful thinking is restricted by the politics of Sport.Rugby must share the grounds with soccer. One idea I might suggest is to rent and develop Marrickville Oval and Henson Park. Again this all involves money. I would agree that the Old Boys Ovalsl should be redevelop and remove the Tennis courts off school. Equally, the ground that is the Car park opposite the Headmaster's residence and that of the School Chaplin could be redevelop. But the school plans school buildings, I believe for a Year 7 Centre.

Or you could just knock the whole joint down and build Twickenham at Stanmore and do away with the idea of education, let alone choice in what sport(s) one plays

 

[RonnyGibbs]

And your solution to the problems of Limited Space, money and the competing interests of soccer is ?.

I would be most interested in hearing your views

This is not easy and I agree with everything u say. We have to get soccer off campus on Saturday. No easy feat. The best place is Tempe. One of my boys plays soccer and it's a good area. I heard with council New were putting in an all purpose pitch down there. Then we use the Buchanan as a one normal size field and run the 15s and 16s on it so 8 games or so. The Buchanan used to be the main rugby field. Do the same for the old boys and run the 13s and 14s on it. This gives us three full size footy fields to train and play on.

While the expense would not be great the hardest thing would be working with soccer. Until that is achieved we can't do anything. We have to sell this to soccer as a good thing.

Any way just a thought! But if you don't ask you don't receive!

 

[Crackerjack]

Getting off-topic resolving Newington's Rugby "woes", and having seen the game last Saturday, those "woes" don't reach up to the 1's, I'll offer up some puffery instead.

Leading Try-scorers - A 1st XV update, post-Round 8

8: Yassim (S), Rorke (I)
7: McTaggart (J), Day (J)
6: Smeallie (I), Duvall, H (N)
5: Pietsch (K), Turner (N), Reilly (J)

Some serious attacking "weaponry" listed in here.

Three of the four leaders are Back 3 players; typically, as you'd expect. That two of the four leaders are from the same school, Joeys; that's not nearly quite so 'typical'!

Charlie Rorke (I) and Dylan Pietsch (K) are the only forwards making this 'Top 9' list. They are also both of their Schools' leading try-scorers, so especial kudos to them.

For devotees of all things Apex Predators, and you know you are Azzuri, Opeti Helu (N) on 4 tries for the Season so far, remains the leading try-scoring Front-Rower.

 

[OldColt]

Getting off-topic resolving Newington's Rugby "woes", and having seen the game last Saturday, those "woes" don't reach up to the 1's, I'll offer up some puffery instead.

Leading Try-scorers - A 1st XV update, post-Round 8

8: Yassim (S), Rorke (I)
7: McTaggart (J), Day (J)
6: Smeallie (I), Duvall, H (N)
5: Pietsch (K), Turner (N), Reilly (J)

Some serious attacking "weaponry" listed in here.

Three of the four leaders are Back 3 players; typically, as you'd expect. That two of the four leaders are from the same school, Joeys; that's not nearly quite so 'typical'!

Charlie Rorke (I) and Dylan Pietsch (K) are the only forwards making this 'Top 9' list. They are also both of their Schools' leading try-scorers, so especial kudos to them.

For devotees of all things Apex Predators, and you know you are Azzuri, Opeti Helu (N) on 4 tries for the Season so far, remains the leading try-scoring Front-Rower.

One of the leading try-scorers may (should!) miss an opportunity to add to his tally this weekend after a petulant post-match display on Saturday. I would expect his school to sit him out for at least a week as a demonstration to the player, his teammates and to other schools of their commitment to good sportsmanship.

And if Shore and Joeys don't use the same defensive strategy that Scots employed against Helu on Saturday (i.e. hitting low and hitting quickly), then you can probably expect the big unit to bag a few more tries before the season's over.