George Smith
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Yep, good point SydneyBra. My mistake as he loooooks older. I shall remove his name for 2013 but still reckon he has a chance in Year 10 using Andrew Kellaway and Angus Crichton as examples at Scots.
For the records. Luke is under14s this year. He plays up in the Auggies 15a, where he is very dominant and not that big.You are really, should we way, single minded if you think Luke Lough will play opens next year. He will bee 15!! Only reason that he is dominant in the ISA comp is because he developed much before everyone else and plays against not so top-notch opponents as GPS or CAS. Also 13 year old Tyrone Taukamo destroyed him in a club game in every aspect. Also he is not in the 15s NSW this year, he is 14 and trialled for Gordon 15s and didnt make it
The only angle on 2013 for grammar concerns the level at which they play. Primetime has said in the GPS 2012 thread that the loss to Scots may signal the end of Grammar playing other schools firsts.
Parents and friends of this years 16As rate them.
Should/will the SGS 1st XV play the other schools 1st XVs?
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I've heard grammar may play 2nds as a result of losing to the TAS 1st XV, although any confirmation/denial of this would be great.
In terms of whether I think the 1sts should play 1sts, I'm not sure. They would be more competitive in the 2nds, but with a strong 16s side, and some improvements throughout the season (in my opinion), as well as the younger guys within the current 1sts showing a decent level, is it worth keeping them up there?
Your thoughts?
Very valid point.We can all go on about how good the 16A's are this year, and no doubt they have improved, but lets be realistic. They are only going this well because of the large amount of numbers of 16 year old boys in 1sts XV's at other schools. Imagine if 16's couldn't play opens, the 16's teams would be a lot better than they are now and I can't see this Grammar team competing against these sides next year and the year after.
While they have plenty of bursaries for the disadvantaged in accordance with Jesuit teachings, View does not offer Athletic Scholarships, prefering to work with and develop the cattle that they have.
They may not be getting the victories in the GPS competition, the strength of their programme is witnessed in the large number of schoolboy representative players that they continue to produce. 2014 seems to be shaping up as a bit of a vintage year for them. Late developers at other schools may influence that over the next season.
An interesting article that all should read - http://www.riverview.nsw.edu.au/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=14&Itemid=705
Just have a couple of queries:
1. "At one time, the Association of Heads of Independent Schools (of which Riverview is a member) had an agreement that sporting scholarships would not be offered. But in recent years (sadly, to the delight of many) the arrangement was struck down as contravening the Restrictive Trade Practices Act."
I haven't come across this explanation before about the reason why GPS schools offer sporting scholarships - it doesn't state however whether the restriction referred to is in relation to the schools conducting their education business or the players themselves - I can't see that it applies to the players as they are not offering their services for hire?
2."At Riverview, people are valued. They are not commodities to be traded. Here, loyalties grow year by year. We call it home-grown talent. Flashing a fistful of dollars to change your colours and your commitment is not our way. Allegiances are not for sale. We make that point very clearly now in our printed Rugby and Football programmes each week both here and at St Aloysius’ College. At Aloys’ they put the year of a boy’s enrolment at the College next to his name to show they do not deal in recent imports. We do the same here, indicating the teams a boy has worked his way through over the years in reaching the Firsts."
Looking at last week's Riverview Firsts team from their programme I note the following: (with boys names omitted)
No 3 - played in the 2nd XV last year but no rugby prior at View
No 4 - did not play rugby at View prior to this year
No 9- - played in the 16As last year but no rugby prior at View
No 10 - played in the 1st XV last year but no rugby prior at View
No 13 - played in the 2nd XV last year and the U15A the year before but no rugby prior at View.
That's 5 out of 15 or 1/3 of the First XV . I don't suggest that these players are on scholarships of any type - but they are all either recent arrivals at Riverview or perhaps they were there but playing soccer prior to their rugby conversion?
Yes,I read the below post yesterday and found it quite insightful.
Yes,
an interesting call from CTPE from what I have read. EVERYBODY but TKS do scholarships and freight in. Deflect from TKS and have everyone else guessing. I need a new partner at Bridge CTPE, are you interested.
Vassilis?2013 DREAM TEAM at New to be out-right champions
Starting XV
1. Tepai Morea- Makes is much awaited move to prop, the position which he plays in league (very similar)
2. Lachlan Osmond- Very heavily built, great body shape for a hooker IMO
3. Lachlan Anderson- Seen a big step up from him this year, I personally believe he has he potential to go a far way in the future in this position (watch this space)
4. George Lucas- Hearing great raps from him at the top level, amazing player
5. Luke Strong- Big Boy future star''
6. Tim Lee- Power and aggression to make big hits and stay strong in collision, also good over the ball
7. David Morris- Future Pocock
8. Lachlan Cannel- Keen to see his development, potential Aus schoolboy next year
9. Joey Lussick- No brainer
10. Guy Beever- Returning on pathways, has a great rugby brain, directs play well
11. George Prassas- Looks to have the natural body shape of a 6 but is actually a winger in disguise
12. Taane Milne- No brainer
13. Tyrone Taukamo- Makes his much anticipated move to 1st XV
14. Oscar Pople- Pace to burn
15. Ed Pollitt- The speed on this kid is unbelievable and I think he can play at fullback excellently, also his cover tackles this year have been out of this world for the 16A's
While they have plenty of bursaries for the disadvantaged in accordance with Jesuit teachings, View does not offer Athletic Scholarships, prefering to work with and develop the cattle that they have.
They may not be getting the victories in the GPS competition, the strength of their programme is witnessed in the large number of schoolboy representative players that they continue to produce. 2014 seems to be shaping up as a bit of a vintage year for them. Late developers at other schools may influence that over the next season.