NSW AAGPS Rugby 2013
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George Smith
Ted Thorn (20)
from www.ABC.net.au site
Prestigious high schools warn students about drug use
By Amy Bainbridge
Posted Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:17am AEST
Photo: ASADA warns some workout supplements can contain banned substances. (Flickr: Noodles and Beef)
Related Story: Drug testers forced schoolboys to drop pants
Related Story: ASADA to interview 150 over doping scandal
Several prestigious high schools are taking action against performance-enhancing drugs by running education programs for students and parents.
It comes against a backdrop of drug scandals and inquiries in professional sporting codes, the expulsion of students over steroids, and the sponsorship of school-age competitions by supplement manufacturers.
The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) is currently investigating doping allegations in the NRL and AFL on a scale which it describes as "unprecedented".
There are fears younger athletes will use similar substances.
Two students were charged for dealing in steroids at St Joseph's Nudgee College in Brisbane in May this year.
In 2007, ASADA arrived at the Head of the River rowing regatta to conduct tests after it received a "credible tip-off" [edit/read: by parents from another school]. Some principals rebuffed the agency at the time, but that attitude has since evolved.[edit: unannounced, no forewarning to any headmasters and during the HOR regatta and targeted one school in particular].
Ross Tarlinton, headmaster of St Joseph's College in Sydney, said schools were now more likely to cooperate with ASADA. "We would aim to work with ASADA, or any other like agency, in a positive and proactive way," he said. "I'd want to know who they were testing, why they were testing, and have a conversation with ASADA about the process," he said. Mr Tarlinton said ASADA provides useful tools to teach students. "I'm a fan of much of the work ASADA does, particularly their education program, the materials they provide for teachers for use in the curriculum, the material they provide online for young people," he said.
The World Anti Doping Agency (WADA) promotes education as the key to preventing drug use.
"In Japan, every school has this course, primary and secondary," said WADA boss John Fahey. "I'd love to see that spread throughout the world."
Students under pressure to bulk up
New research suggests drug use is widespread in the US, where the lucrative major leagues are outside the WADA system.
A study last year by the University of Minnesota found 5 to 6 per cent of middle school and high school students were using anabolic steroids.
Some school districts have started drug testing to teenaged athletes, but the value of the expensive program has been debated.
Experts suggest drug use is not as widespread in Australia.
Sydney University dietician Dr Jenny O'Dea said 5.6 per cent in year 12 students reported using medication attained through gyms or drug dealers, such as steroids, insulin injections and muscle building pills.
That figure lowered to 1.7 per cent of year 11 students.
Dr O'Dea's study showed supplements are a bigger issue, with more than a quarter of the senior boys having used sports supplements, vitamins or minerals to gain weight and muscle.
Newington College's First Eleven Cricket Captain, Sam Smyth, says there is a lot of pressure to bulk up. "It's mainly between peers, talking about that and gym programs, what you're doing, when you're going, what are you taking, how much do you lift," he said.
Supplements a risky way for teens to make up ground
Dr David Mulford, headmaster of Newington College, says earlier selection for elite sport is adding to the pressure. "All sports now have elite sport programs, earlier and earlier to find talent, so there's pressure to try to take short cuts," he said. "The major issue around supplements now is it's still such an unknown what's really in them and what's the long-term effect. "There are no long-term studies about the effect of these short-term supplement gains."
ASADA educator Alanna Metlikovec says taking supplements also increases the risk of testing positive for a banned substance. "On average, 40 per cent of all positive drug tests we collect are resultant from supplement use and people didn't know there's a banned substance inside it," she said.
Ms Metlikovec was part of a sports performance seminar held recently by Newington College, where a number of the boys had already been drug tested.
The students and parents heard from experts in performance, nutrition and drug testing.
The main message was that supplements were a risky way to make up for poor rest, diet and training regimens, in the teen years.
Education departments around Australia endorse drug testing in junior sports at the representative level.
But principal of Box Hill Senior Secondary School Steve Cook said there were privacy and logistical issues when it came to testing school-aged athletes. "I don't think we currently have anyone in schools with the expertise who would be able to do it," he said. "Students are aware of WADA and ASADA regulations and we're making sure they're not doing anything that will put their career at risk."
Prestigious high schools warn students about drug use
By Amy Bainbridge
Posted Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:17am AEST
Photo: ASADA warns some workout supplements can contain banned substances. (Flickr: Noodles and Beef) Related Story: Drug testers forced schoolboys to drop pants
Related Story: ASADA to interview 150 over doping scandal
Several prestigious high schools are taking action against performance-enhancing drugs by running education programs for students and parents.
It comes against a backdrop of drug scandals and inquiries in professional sporting codes, the expulsion of students over steroids, and the sponsorship of school-age competitions by supplement manufacturers.
The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) is currently investigating doping allegations in the NRL and AFL on a scale which it describes as "unprecedented".
There are fears younger athletes will use similar substances.
Two students were charged for dealing in steroids at St Joseph's Nudgee College in Brisbane in May this year.
In 2007, ASADA arrived at the Head of the River rowing regatta to conduct tests after it received a "credible tip-off" [edit/read: by parents from another school]. Some principals rebuffed the agency at the time, but that attitude has since evolved.[edit: unannounced, no forewarning to any headmasters and during the HOR regatta and targeted one school in particular].
Ross Tarlinton, headmaster of St Joseph's College in Sydney, said schools were now more likely to cooperate with ASADA. "We would aim to work with ASADA, or any other like agency, in a positive and proactive way," he said. "I'd want to know who they were testing, why they were testing, and have a conversation with ASADA about the process," he said. Mr Tarlinton said ASADA provides useful tools to teach students. "I'm a fan of much of the work ASADA does, particularly their education program, the materials they provide for teachers for use in the curriculum, the material they provide online for young people," he said.
The World Anti Doping Agency (WADA) promotes education as the key to preventing drug use.
"In Japan, every school has this course, primary and secondary," said WADA boss John Fahey. "I'd love to see that spread throughout the world."
Students under pressure to bulk up
New research suggests drug use is widespread in the US, where the lucrative major leagues are outside the WADA system.
A study last year by the University of Minnesota found 5 to 6 per cent of middle school and high school students were using anabolic steroids.
Some school districts have started drug testing to teenaged athletes, but the value of the expensive program has been debated.
Experts suggest drug use is not as widespread in Australia.
Sydney University dietician Dr Jenny O'Dea said 5.6 per cent in year 12 students reported using medication attained through gyms or drug dealers, such as steroids, insulin injections and muscle building pills.
That figure lowered to 1.7 per cent of year 11 students.
Dr O'Dea's study showed supplements are a bigger issue, with more than a quarter of the senior boys having used sports supplements, vitamins or minerals to gain weight and muscle.
Newington College's First Eleven Cricket Captain, Sam Smyth, says there is a lot of pressure to bulk up. "It's mainly between peers, talking about that and gym programs, what you're doing, when you're going, what are you taking, how much do you lift," he said.
Supplements a risky way for teens to make up ground
Dr David Mulford, headmaster of Newington College, says earlier selection for elite sport is adding to the pressure. "All sports now have elite sport programs, earlier and earlier to find talent, so there's pressure to try to take short cuts," he said. "The major issue around supplements now is it's still such an unknown what's really in them and what's the long-term effect. "There are no long-term studies about the effect of these short-term supplement gains."
ASADA educator Alanna Metlikovec says taking supplements also increases the risk of testing positive for a banned substance. "On average, 40 per cent of all positive drug tests we collect are resultant from supplement use and people didn't know there's a banned substance inside it," she said.
Ms Metlikovec was part of a sports performance seminar held recently by Newington College, where a number of the boys had already been drug tested.
The students and parents heard from experts in performance, nutrition and drug testing.
The main message was that supplements were a risky way to make up for poor rest, diet and training regimens, in the teen years.
Education departments around Australia endorse drug testing in junior sports at the representative level.
But principal of Box Hill Senior Secondary School Steve Cook said there were privacy and logistical issues when it came to testing school-aged athletes. "I don't think we currently have anyone in schools with the expertise who would be able to do it," he said. "Students are aware of WADA and ASADA regulations and we're making sure they're not doing anything that will put their career at risk."
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Primetime
Allen Oxlade (6)
From what I have been told it was not a Grammar 1sts team, but more of a 'developmental' squad combining 1sts, 2nds and 16s players. I do know from discussions with parents that the Grammar boys were missing a number of backline players due to injury and a cricket trip to England.
Personally, the day at the Ashes sounds preferable to the rumble of a Tongan backline, though I'm sure the ex-forwards on here will tell me otherwise.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Games during the holidays are always going to be a bit of a hotch potch team combination, and often the key selectorial question is "Will you be in Sydney?"
George Smith
Ted Thorn (20)
I reckon Steve Smith from Box Hill didn't reckon on the "GPS" student. That is, these boys have an infatuation with bulking-up that either fall into the category of 'naivety' or 'schoolyard expert' but each have the common total disregard to ASADA/AAGPS/and their own health.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Not at all and it was a good day to watch - may be all down hill from here (for the aussies)!
scaraby
Ron Walden (29)
i hear fish works
The score could have blown right out had some passes not been dropped.
Nice try at the end by NEW. reserve forward playing under the name of "UNKNOWN"
scaraby
Ron Walden (29)
think he came across from "The Bye" 1st 15.
S'UP
Bill Watson (15)
I've seen students go from 85kg to 105kg in 12 months and its all muscle. Supplements are easy to buy online, so when the pressure is on to bulk up to make 1st the boys do it. It's a shame they are under that much pressure at 16 and 17. supervison at gym session would help some of the weights the boys are lifting is a joke, what will the long term damage be?
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Was that boy that one of the Rumsfeld Unknowns? either a Known Unknown, or an Unknown Unknown.
Donald Rumsfeld - "There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns - that is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns - there are things we do not know we don't know."
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
It was a better game than the Reds/Waratahs match which followed.
strokeside
Larry Dwyer (12)
from www.ABC.net.au site
Prestigious high schools warn students about drug use
By Amy Bainbridge
Posted Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:17am AEST
Related Story: Drug testers forced schoolboys to drop pants
Related Story: ASADA to interview 150 over doping scanda"
George, I got a call last night, saying that there was a related story on the ABC TV news (which I wasn't watching) using backdrop vision from the recent ASRU nationals, I would have thought rather unfortuntate for any of the boys highlighted!
wreckless
Bob Loudon (25)
"UNKNOWN" was replacement flanker Tim Lee (19 ) who came on for Stuart Mill ( 7 ) late in the second half.
And true - 4 tries went begging at the last pass!
Cheers, Wreckless
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Were any of them identifiable - by number or face or, even, by gait?
I saw the ABC there taking footage of 3 fathers of of boys playing: i presume that was not used.
strokeside
Larry Dwyer (12)
don't know, haven't seen it. I was trying to find the footage on the ABC site, but unable to, I thought someone else may have better luck.
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