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David Wilson (68)
Based on information from IS that Grammar are weak, High are very weak, Shore beat High only 17-5, Riverview lost to Newington and Newington aren't even in it, I'd expect Joeys, TAS and Scots to fight out the 3rds.
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Based on information from IS that Grammar are weak, High are very weak, Shore beat High only 17-5, Riverview lost to Newington and Newington aren't even in it, I'd expect Joeys, TAS and Scots to fight out the 3rds.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Kings Shore result anyone?
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Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Take the Points
Frank Nicholson (4)
Stand outs?
The Honey Badger
Jim Lenehan (48)
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Wasn't at the game, just relaying the scores.
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Alfred Walker (16)
I agree Show and Go.
Riverview after several strong seasons don't look to have the fire power to challenge this year.
Their scrum regularly disintegrated. The backs will struggle to get clean ball based on Saturdays performance.
Equally Waverley's win has put some balance back into the strength of the Joeys team. Joeys beat Scots fair and square but Scots were truly dreadful and made Joeys look better than perhaps they are.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
The Honey Badger
Jim Lenehan (48)
Close in a delusional Shore supporter sense.
And a big improvement over the Waverley result.
They are on the up.
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Bob Loudon (25)
Thanks all for the feedback on the thirds. First, a response to bigmac who considered that Joeys would dominate "as usual." Since the official thirds comp began, Joeys has one twice, TAS twice, while Scots,Grammar and TAS have a shared premiership.
I agree with the general sentiment that its a pity Newington isn't in. Of the eight teams playing, Joeys continues as this year's favourite.
Of the remainder, I bow to IS's knowledge of Grammar, the feeling that Grammar is weaker and cannot challenge TAS. I also bow to the apparent feeling that Scots is competitive. So that means at this point that TAS and Scots are the main threats to SJC.
IS suggested I was being modest re TAS's strengths. I wasn't. I just didn't know.
In an earlier preview of the comp I said that TAS generally had good backs, but those backs relied on the forwards to establish dominance or at least equality and here the pattern had been patchy.
TAS takes pride in sometimes ferocious defence. I saw one match in which the forwards constantly talking to each other, constantly motivating, held against waving attacks on the line that I would have said were unstoppable. But, and this has also been a feature, once those forwards weaken, TAS can go down by big margins against teams they were expected to beat. I have a feeling TAS over-relies on its star backs based on past matches that I have seen.
This year's results seem to fit that pattern although I did not see the matches. Against SBHS and Farrer, running rugby produced big scores. Against Kinross where the forwards were held, all of TAS's points came from penalties.
I don't know much about the Scots team but assume that they are good based on the brief comments I have read. So as we head into the thirds, the first question appears to be can Scots or TAS beat Joey's?
Of the remaining teams and despite IS, I remain reluctant to write Grammar off.
Is it just my sentimental attachment to all the minnows? After all, I played against the Sydney schools as underdog. I remember all the politics around TAS's previous attempt to enter the full competition. In the end, I gave GPS rugby away. I only came back into following the comp when TAS once again started to steer its way in through the byzantine complexities of GPS sporting arrangements. In all this, SGS and SBHS had a special place.
So sentiment? Perhaps, but I also feel that on the results to date SGS can be competitive. TAS in particular needs to watch. A year or so back, SGS in Armidale lifted and beat TAS in a result not expected by me or others, throwing TAS's plans into a degree of disarray, opening up the thirds comp.
Kings then comes next among the other schools because of their 19-0 win over Shore. And then we have View, Shore and SBHS to fight out the other places.
Summarising, at this point in the upcoming competition, Joeys v Scots v TAS is the next conundrum to unravel in terms of the possible final results.
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I agree with the general sentiment that its a pity Newington isn't in. Of the eight teams playing, Joeys continues as this year's favourite.
Of the remainder, I bow to IS's knowledge of Grammar, the feeling that Grammar is weaker and cannot challenge TAS. I also bow to the apparent feeling that Scots is competitive. So that means at this point that TAS and Scots are the main threats to SJC.
IS suggested I was being modest re TAS's strengths. I wasn't. I just didn't know.
In an earlier preview of the comp I said that TAS generally had good backs, but those backs relied on the forwards to establish dominance or at least equality and here the pattern had been patchy.
TAS takes pride in sometimes ferocious defence. I saw one match in which the forwards constantly talking to each other, constantly motivating, held against waving attacks on the line that I would have said were unstoppable. But, and this has also been a feature, once those forwards weaken, TAS can go down by big margins against teams they were expected to beat. I have a feeling TAS over-relies on its star backs based on past matches that I have seen.
This year's results seem to fit that pattern although I did not see the matches. Against SBHS and Farrer, running rugby produced big scores. Against Kinross where the forwards were held, all of TAS's points came from penalties.
I don't know much about the Scots team but assume that they are good based on the brief comments I have read. So as we head into the thirds, the first question appears to be can Scots or TAS beat Joey's?
Of the remaining teams and despite IS, I remain reluctant to write Grammar off.
Is it just my sentimental attachment to all the minnows? After all, I played against the Sydney schools as underdog. I remember all the politics around TAS's previous attempt to enter the full competition. In the end, I gave GPS rugby away. I only came back into following the comp when TAS once again started to steer its way in through the byzantine complexities of GPS sporting arrangements. In all this, SGS and SBHS had a special place.
So sentiment? Perhaps, but I also feel that on the results to date SGS can be competitive. TAS in particular needs to watch. A year or so back, SGS in Armidale lifted and beat TAS in a result not expected by me or others, throwing TAS's plans into a degree of disarray, opening up the thirds comp.
Kings then comes next among the other schools because of their 19-0 win over Shore. And then we have View, Shore and SBHS to fight out the other places.
Summarising, at this point in the upcoming competition, Joeys v Scots v TAS is the next conundrum to unravel in terms of the possible final results.
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bigmac
Billy Sheehan (19)
Apologies due credit to TAS for their triple premierships. I hark back to joeys 2015?? that wiped the floor with every team in the comp. Great side and a great reflection of joeys overall strength.
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Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Grammar are developing a sound structure.
A weakness has been in their defence from broken play: they seem to be better in that regard this year but it may be a question of how broken the play becomes before they lose their reliance on structure and have to trust instinct - which is their limitation.
Jim Belshaw
Bob Loudon (25)
Memory is a real problem, for me at least, bigmac! I was about to agree with you. but looking at the results in 2015. Joey's won the seconds and thirds, but New/Scots won the firsts. Since the thirds comp started, no school has won all three grades. If we focus on just the top two ignoring the thirds, Scots won both in 2016, Iggies both in 2011, joeys both in 2007, 2005, 2004 and 2003!
bigmac
Billy Sheehan (19)
Re joeys 2015 i was referring to their 3rds team that dominated all others by a mile. Cannot speak for 1s and 2s.
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Jim Belshaw
Bob Loudon (25)
It was a very good team! It was quite depressing actually if you were not from Joeys!
Jim Belshaw
Bob Loudon (25)
I have yet to see them play, IS, but isn't that actually a positive comment? If the structure is there the base is there. Improved instinct comes from match practice, from coping with the new.
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Joeys versus Waverley.
Clearly this footage has a particular Cerise slant to it, and in that regard is not designed to be objective. But better some footage than none in my view.
Clearly this footage has a particular Cerise slant to it, and in that regard is not designed to be objective. But better some footage than none in my view.
brumbiesrugby
Nev Cottrell (35)
Given this was the first encounter in a very very long time and Waves were favourites, was surprised to see such a small crowd turn up. Clearly hard to find your way out of Death Valley.
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Waves were favourites? Serious?
But well done on the snipe re the Waverley crowd.
Clearly hard to accept defeat.
brumbiesrugby
Nev Cottrell (35)
Defeats are easily accepted when they are of this magnitude. And there have been plenty of defeats for the C@B faithful over the last couple of years, although few as comprehensive.
Just feel for the kids from Waves who got plenty of respect from their opposition but precious little support from their own. Hopefully there are plenty there to watch them at home against Newington.
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