New Zealand vs Australia Oct 11 2020 Bledisloe Cup

[Derpus]

JOC (James O'Connor) and To'omua will both be in the starting 15 along with one of Banks or Maddocks. That's more than enough kicking ability to carry two proper wingers. I haven't actually seen all that much kicking from Wright either. Is he actually that much better?

 

[qwerty51]

I agree, it's not like Reece and Clarke are great kickers either.

 

[Try-ranosaurus Rex]

I agree, it's not like Reece and Clarke are great kickers either.

No. Nor will the AB's play them together. More likely one of Bridge or Jordan paired with one of Reece or Clarke.

 

[Dctarget]

JOC (James O'Connor) and To'omua will both be in the starting 15 along with one of Banks or Maddocks. That's more than enough kicking ability to carry two proper wingers. I haven't actually seen all that much kicking from Wright either. Is he actually that much better?

I think DHP will be there. But your point remains.

10. JO'C
12. To'omua
15. DHP

Should be enough to carry Daugunu & Koroibete.

 

[qwerty51]

No. Nor will the AB's play them together. More likely one of Bridge or Jordan paired with one of Reece or Clarke.

Don't think Jordan will get a go until he improves his defence.

 

[Try-ranosaurus Rex]

Don't think Jordan will get a go until he improves his defence.

True, but I think Bridge will almost certainly be there.

 

[Tex]

Is Daugunu good as a systems defender? He's clearly monstrously powerful but I can see the Kiwi backs licking their lips at him

 

[rugboy]

I think DHP will be there. But your point remains.

10. JO'C
12. To'omua
15. DHP

Should be enough to carry Daugunu & Koroibete.

I mentioned this on the Wallabies thread. I don't see why we would consider "carrying" Daugunu. Wright for me is his equal with ball in hand. This season he has more metres per carry, more clean breaks, more tries, more passes all from half the amount of carries. Add in his ball playing ability plus his kicking, ability under the high ball and it seems an obvious selection.

Why would we look as taking JOC (James O'Connor) or To'omua out of the frontline to cover for Daugunu's weaknesses when we can have a solid back 3?

I would also go DHP if he has recovered in time. Maddocks and Banks both good back ups.

 

[Braveheart81]

Why would we look as taking JOC (James O'Connor) or To'omua out of the frontline to cover for Daugunu's weaknesses when we can have a solid back 3?

I would also go DHP if he has recovered in time. Maddocks and Banks both good back ups.

Most teams drop their 10 and 15 back in general play because the 10 is a better playmaker for making decisions on the return than the winger and the winger should be the best at defending on the edge and making those decisions.

The 10 generally isn't being put back there because you're hiding them in defence. That would only be the case if you're electing to put them somewhere other than 10 from the set piece in defence.

 

[rugboy]

Most teams drop their 10 and 15 back in general play because the 10 is a better playmaker for making decisions on the return than the winger and the winger should be the best at defending on the edge and making those decisions.

The 10 generally isn't being put back there because you're hiding them in defence. That would only be the case if you're electing to put them somewhere other than 10 from the set piece in defence.

I get that, although when you have a winger with playmaking ability and can kick then there is no need to drop the 10.

 

[Joe Blow]

I get that, although when you have a winger with playmaking ability and can kick then there is no need to drop the 10.

That bloke will be playing 10 already

 

[Up the Guts]

True, but I think Bridge will almost certainly be there.

I’m more than happy to see Bridge on a wing. He can finish a try but he’s not a massive threat one on one.

 

[Brumby Runner]

I appreciate that, but I must admit I haven't seen a great deal of evidence to show that Wright has a boot and is capable of back field positional kicks.

That would be evidence that you haven't seen him play much or haven't taken notice.

 

[Up the Guts]

Wright played a lot of 10 and 15 as a schoolboy and played five-eighth for Manly. He can kick.

That said, I thought Daugunu could kick a bit, wasn’t there some story about him being a national soccer goalkeeper for Fiji at u18s or something?

 

[Brumby Runner]

Most teams drop their 10 and 15 back in general play because the 10 is a better playmaker for making decisions on the return than the winger and the winger should be the best at defending on the edge and making those decisions.

The 10 generally isn't being put back there because you're hiding them in defence. That would only be the case if you're electing to put them somewhere other than 10 from the set piece in defence.

Like in the hookers spot for lineouts? Hmmm, seems like I've seen that somewhere.

 

[Braveheart81]

Like in the hookers spot for lineouts? Hmmm, seems like I've seen that somewhere.

Absolutely. We did that for a long time. A number of sides do off defensive lineouts because otherwise a common option is crash ball at the 10.

 

[Slim 293]

That said, I thought Daugunu could kick a bit, wasn’t there some story about him being a national soccer goalkeeper for Fiji at u18s or something?

Going by the stats, the ball has not touched his foot all year.........

 

[Up the Guts]

Going by the stats, the ball has not touched his foot all year...

I haven't seen any kicks of note from him but I thought I recalled Greg Clarke rattling on about it.

 

[Sully]

Daugunu has a decent boot, but that's not his role at the Reds. And yes he was an international goal kicker and has kicked conversions and penalties at NRC level.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Kickoff times pushed back to 16:00 local to "maximise tv audiences".

Paul Williams appointed to ref, Angus Gardner will ref B2.