New Zealand vs Australia - Bledisloe 2, 24th August 2013

[FrankLind]

So...team moving forward under Ewen?

Serious question.

 

[Scoey]

The booing of QC (Quade Cooper) is almost as obnoxious as the continual reference to Genia as "the world's best." I guess once you earn a certain label you have it by default for the following few years. Seriously, can we please give White some proper game time?

Mate, I am one of Genia's biggest advocates but he's been off for a while. Bench him and make him work. Set the standard with him and it shows a clear message to the rest of the group. Play well or someone else will. Leaving Hooper alone in that ruck strangely was the telling blow for me. I know that's not part of the scrum half position description but who does he think he is? Get the fuck in there!!!!

 

[Gurz]

Disgraceful reffing by the all Saffa connection. How there wasnt a kiwi yellow on at least three occasions only those dickheads will know.

Absolutely disgraceful - win fair...... but that was a waste of time and as for cocky kiwi who said dont bother about Dunedin you know what we should send a D team in protest of such lop sided refereeing.

Why do I bother... AFL STARTING TO LOOK LIKE A BETTER OPTION

 

[disco]

McKenzie should cop some shit for this, Yes he picked Mogg again at fullback & he was fucking shit again. Israel Folau is the best fullback in the country & is just being wasted on the wing.

Send Mogg to the scrap heap he's a fucking dud.

Mowen had a real shocker & he's usually good, Moore was fucking shit doesn't he know how to clean out over the ball.

Fucking useless pick & drive in the 2nd half I'd rather the just went wide everytime & fuck it up out there.

Kudriani was fucking shit he's a waste of space did fucking nothing when he came on I think it's time some careers were put on notice.

That was worse than last week because it was the same old dumb Wallabies rugby I am so fucking sick of seeing this shit. I really believe that some of our players don't actually know that laws of rugby with some of the penalties that they give away.

Scott Fardy was good, He was one real positive from such a terrible performance.

 

[Bardon]

Disappointed for the Wobs, but can't honestly say they deserve better than the final result. ABs looked like they were comfortable throughout the majority of the game. By contrast Wobs seemed to panic when there didn't seem to be much pressure on them.

ABs definitely should have received a yellow card. They probably still would have won if they got one though.

Link still has a hell of a lot of work to do. At this rate Argentina will be trying to pinch 3rd spot from you guys. However I expect you to improve as TRC goes on and for you to be a different prospect when you travel up North later in the year.

 

[Moono75]

These guys just dont want it enough. No hard men in the team and just like deans no idea on subs bench. Why not izzy at fullback. Too late with white for genia. Just fucked all round. The Boks will roll us at this rate

 

[lpd]

Drop Genia to the bench, he needs a kick up the arse to stop being so lethargic, Nic White is biting at the chomp to get a go and would at least bring energy. Mogg is shot, something happened in the Super Rugby Final to him, bring in Cummins to the wing and Folau to fullback, force Izzy into the game if he won't himself. Having said that, we were not bad for the first 15 or so, the intensity and purpose was there, got lost though.

 

[Scoey]

So.team moving forward under Ewen?

Serious question.

Short answer? Yes.

But really, time will tell. Alan Jones on the Rugby Club said that Ewen needs to un-coach before he can coach. There may be something in that.

In the last two games we have been terrible, bordering on diabolical at times but the times where we are good we look better than we have in years. Baby steps, but I think we're moving forward.

 

[MajorlyRagerly]

Doesn't seem to be much written, what did people think of the ref?

I thought he had a great game.

 

[jollyswagman]

Mate, I am one of Genia's biggest advocates but he's been off for a while. Bench him and make him work. Set the standard with him and it shows a clear message to the rest of the group. Play well or someone else will. Leaving Hooper alone in that ruck strangely was the telling blow for me. I know that's not part of the scrum half position description but who does he think he is? Get the fuck in there!!!!

Couldn't agree more Scoey. Poor service, kick charge downs, lazy clearances, poor option taking. All I hope now is Link gives White-Cooper combo some game time in the next few weeks.

 

[barbarian]

I watched the game at the pub, don't want to really comment much until I've seen the replay.

Just the one thing I want to pick you up on is your statement that Mowen is 'usually good'. He has only played five tests, and I would wager only two of those have been passable to good performances. But he has somehow got to this place in people's minds where he is a standout test player.

I like Mowen, I don't think he should be dropped. But as it stands he had a great debut, but is yet to show he can consistently perform at test level. I hope he shows us this RC series that he can.
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[mark_s]

So.team moving forward under Ewen?

Serious question.

I think yes, despite the terribly disappointing results. We don't quite have the starting 15 right, plus we are making too many mistakes. We can also learn a lot from the ABs about defence in test matches. When it clicks we will win, I am expecting the EOYT to be when we really start to get a run of results.

 

[The Red Baron]

So.team moving forward under Ewen?

Serious question.

I think so, difficult to measure after two games though. What I am seeing is more intent. Where we are lacking is in execution, and I thought there was improvement on last week.

Basic skills seem to be lacking, and that is an institutional problem. Our development pathways are to blame there, not the wallaby coach. However, there should be nothing but skills training and drill for the next few weeks. Just because you make the national side, doesn't mean you stop working on basic skills.

 

[Scoey]

Yep Genia looks like he needs to find his hunger. Like he needs a reason to play or something.

 

[Scoey]

Doesn't seem to be much written, what did people think of the ref?

I thought he had a great game.

Haha! Too soon mate. ;-)

 

[cyclopath]

Doesn't seem to be much written, what did people think of the ref?

I thought he had a great game.

Troll, MR!

 

[jollyswagman]

I think yes, despite the terribly disappointing results. We don't quite have the starting 15 right, plus we are making too many mistakes. We can also learn a lot from the ABs about defence in test matches. When it clicks we will win, I am expecting the EOYT to be when we really start to get a run of results.

I bloody well hope so as I just shelled out $500 for tickets to the Wales match on November 30th.

 

[Ash]

Penalties were interesting - Wallabies gave away 16, ABs just 8.

Our problem is that our forwards don't compete the whole game. We are there in fits and spurts. The ABs wear it while we are competing, then blow us away when they get ascendancy.

Our set piece went from being dominant last week to being dominated this week. Alexander and Moore, in particular, didn't have happy games in the front row, and Sio struggled when he came on. Not sure what we can do with our scrum from here, although Peyper's interpretation didn't help.

A few players have question marks - Genia, Mogg in particular. Kuridrani off the bench in both games has provided entirely the wrong impact.

Not sure what to do with the forwards, Fardy was good, Hooper was again outstanding, particularly in the first half.

 

[TOCC]

Drop Genia, he is out of sorts, I don't know if he is carrying an injury but he is really down on form in some areas, namely his kicking game and taking the high ball...

His organisational ability is usually quite good, but going on the way the wallabies are playing it couldn't do any harm to bring in someone else.


I don't blame him for everything, the forwards aren't providing clean ball and it's slowing service down which is a big issue.

 

[Scoey]

On the plus side, Fardy looks quite at home in gold!