New Zealand v Wales, Test 1, 2016

[Blake]

'Twas an entertaining game.

 

[boyo]

The NZRT's backline wasn't as smooth as of yore.
Wales need to fix up their lineout.

 

[ACR]

I dunno, I have no real issues with that being called forward, it was barely flat at best. His hands were definitely not moving backwards. So long as it is consistent.

Same with the Kaino penalty the commentators complained about a bit before that, you could see that Kaino deliberately put himself on the wrong side then made a half hearted effort to get out of the way.

As always, I think you're flat out wrong. That's not a forward pass any day of the week.

And Kaino CLEARLY moved to the side despite having welsh players pinning him down. The halfback milked it.

 

[ACR]

The NZRT's backline wasn't as smooth as of yore.
Wales need to fix up their lineout.

Lost some of the passing skills and decision making and replaced with raw talent. e.g. Fekitoa and Naholo

 

[Ash]

As always, I think you're flat out wrong. That's not a forward pass any day of the week.

And Kaino CLEARLY moved to the side despite having welsh players pinning him down. The halfback milked it.

Agree to disagree. I can understand arguments both ways for the pass, but his hands didn't move in a backwards motion and the ball did not come out backwards. At best, you could argue for a flat motion. At best.

And Kaino, I want to see players deliberately falling on the wrong side then waiting to roll away penalised. Sure, the halfback may have milked it a bit at the end, but Kaino didn't have to be there to begin with, and he could easily have rolled away immediately, but didn't.

 

[FrankLind]

Agree to disagree. I can understand arguments both ways for the pass, but his hands didn't move in a backwards motion and the ball did not come out backwards. At best, you could argue for a flat motion. At best.

And Kaino, I want to see players deliberately falling on the wrong side then waiting to roll away penalised. Sure, the halfback may have milked it a bit at the end, but Kaino didn't have to be there to begin with, and he could easily have rolled away immediately, but didn't.

No one thought that was forward - except Wayne Barnes and you.

 

[Braveheart81]

I thought that was one of the worst forward pass calls I've seen. So comfortably a legal pass.

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[Ash]

No one thought that was forward - except Wayne Barnes and you.

Although there's probably some hyperbole there, I'm fine with that.

 

[Blake]

No one thought that was forward - except Wayne Barnes and you.

yip, both the Welsh commentators thought it went back.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

So far I've only seen some highlights BUT it seems to me there was a forward pass in Naholo's first try & someone got into Barnes' ear about it at half time so the TJP no-try was more a square-up than a cock-up. That said, he was flat out wrong & should never have over-ruled his TMO. NZ media are obviously harking back to Cardiff 2007 so I guess we'll be getting those two calls regurgitated for the rest of Barnes' refing career..........

On the subject of Ayoub, I hereby pledge not to cast aspersions on his abilities as a TMO until AFTER a match. From what I've seen he got everything that was referred to him spot on.

 

[zer0]

So far I've only seen some highlights BUT it seems to me there was a forward pass in Naholo's first try & someone got into Barnes' ear about it at half time so the TJP no-try was more a square-up than a cock-up. That said, he was flat out wrong & should never have over-ruled his TMO. NZ media are obviously harking back to Cardiff 2007 so I guess we'll be getting those two calls regurgitated for the rest of Barnes' refing career....

If that is indeed the case, then that's even worse.

 

[Slim 293]

I thought that was one of the worst forward pass calls I've seen. So comfortably a legal pass.

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Absolutely no question about it......... the pass was clearly backwards.

That's a massive cock up from Barnes to overrule the TMO on that............

 

[John S]

Jumping on the band wagon but there was no way that pass was forwards. Barnes gor that one wrong.

On another note, good to see Sydney Shute Shield ref Will Houston step up to international level.

 

[Dan54]

Ok fellas, my take on game after being at it!
Was a bloody great test to be at, one of most enjoyable I been to for a few years. The banter etc between both sets of fans was great. The game was played at a hell of a speed, and I was genuinely nervous at halftime, and not just because the Welsh fans were informing me that Wales were about to start a huge punch up to get game stopped! Wales started bloody well, looked like the All Blacks midfield was getting a little disconnected on defence. By geez the ABs turned defence to attack very quickly too. Welsh defence seemed to get pulled in from the wings, and that hurt them. Second half AB midfield tightened up, and their lineout really dominated, cost Wales big time. Anyway looking forward to Wellington test.

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[Dan54]

Oh, and even allowing for forward pass or whatever, and one or two other little missed things, I thought Barnes reffed bloody well.

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[waiopehu oldboy]

@Dan54 no doubt you'll be paying the Cossie Club a visit?

 

[Marcelo]

Wrong thread, sorry

 

[Ulrich]

No one thought that was forward - except Wayne Barnes and you.

Yeah I was sitting here in the morning watching the game from a distance and saw this and I was like, wow, what a well constructed legitimate try.

Then came Barnes and reversed the decision and my immediate thought was, "Ag nee bra, wil jy nou werklik die Nieu-Seelanders bedonnerd maak?"

Translated that would be something along these lines: "Ah no man, do you really intend to make the New Zealanders furious?"

 

[boyo]

Ja