New Zealand v Australia - Auckland - 23 August 2014
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Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
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Rocky Elsom (76)
Current score is 44 - 27 without the 3 point conversion with 10 minutes to go. Some good tries being scored, and unusually for NZ, it isn't raining.
There are only two Whitelocks and one Whitelock cousin playing for Canterbury, and Damien McKenzie from NZ Under 20's is showing some maturity.
How is that not better than last night?
Edit: Final Score 58-27. And the Mooloos were supposed to be good. And the Canterbury folk were missing about 5 players to the NZRT.
There are only two Whitelocks and one Whitelock cousin playing for Canterbury, and Damien McKenzie from NZ Under 20's is showing some maturity.
How is that not better than last night?
Edit: Final Score 58-27. And the Mooloos were supposed to be good. And the Canterbury folk were missing about 5 players to the NZRT.
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David Wilson (68)
I had the same problem when I updated my computer. The reply function wouldn't work on Internet Explorer - a few G and G R people said they had the same problem and suggested I go through Google Chrome. It worked first time.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
looks about da right size.......Bullrush I don't think we really needed the selfie
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John Eales (66)
Fuck me it's a long week leading up to a Bleddie isn't it? The last few pages really indicate that we've run out of things to say, other than whinging about refereeing before the game's even happened and even more bizarrely, whinging about coaches whinging about refereeing. Is there some footy on telly tonight that we can watch and calm the fuck down?
More seriously, I think this is an indicator of how nervous fans on both sides are. In the last couple of years I don't think many of us Aussies gave the Wallabies a hope of winning. Now that we appear to have bridged most of the gap, I think a few (maybe more than a few actually) of us think we're a big chance to win tomorrow night. I'm only prepared to say it quietly, but I'd be in that camp too.
More seriously, I think this is an indicator of how nervous fans on both sides are. In the last couple of years I don't think many of us Aussies gave the Wallabies a hope of winning. Now that we appear to have bridged most of the gap, I think a few (maybe more than a few actually) of us think we're a big chance to win tomorrow night. I'm only prepared to say it quietly, but I'd be in that camp too.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
I think we reached that point around Page 18.
I've had a drink now - all good
As for this:
Wrong,he only had to beat Wallabies
Crippled for 6 years by Agent Deans at that point. No hope.
Bloody Kiwis - over here stealing our jobs and filling up our hotels.
At least they're not stealing our women. So its not all baaaaaad.
We need to stoke up a bit of old fashioned hatred. You don't win games by fucking around, and all this nicey-nicey bullshit is boiling my piss, and I do that enough over at the Fern so that they don't all turn into a screaming gang of fishwives.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Hansen has improved the All Blacks since taking over.
Look at his record.
Lost one game in two years.
Results are all that matter. End of.
If you think he isn't a fantastic coach then you clearly know nothing about rugby.
p.s. he is funny and he is a very successful wind-up artist - just look at what he's done to your blood pressure
if thats the case how come the poms came so close as well?
rugby@2014
Stan Wickham (3)
Need to change beale with foley
It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
Any solution for the crisis in Gaza?
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Yeah when the Wallabies were winning regularly against the ABs, it was never that we were fucking awesome, it was because your coach moved Cullen to the wrong position. Or Taine Randell should never have been selected (much less made captain), or a thousand other things were wrong with NZ rugby.
Fact is, your nearest rivals in the last 5 years have been hamstrung to a large degree by their shit setup (Australia without any decent inside backs or coaching ability), batshit insane coaches (Pete de Villiers), or just plain arse clownery (most of Europe).
At the same time, you've experienced a near unbroken run of success on the back of some very good players with a very high work ethic playing together for very long periods.
Similar to Wallabies 99-2001 I suppose. And look at how that fell apart when mass retirement hit us.
A coach isn't going to change that, obviously. You can't suddenly blood a pile of blokes and keep expecting success.
But I stand by my belief that I don't believe Hansen has improved them since he took over. After all, RWC2011 was right around the time guys like Read hit their peak just as McCaw plateaued due to injury.
It has been the regular injection of talent more than anything that keeps the ABs right at the top with daylight second. Brodie Retallick's ascension to one of the top class second rowers owes more to Dave Rennie than it does Hansen, for example. If you go into an environment where guys like McCaw and Read are doing the leading, the coach is not going to be a very big part of that, particularly considering the time he's been with the setup.
I think winning games is one thing - HOW you win them is entirely another if you want to look at coaching improvement.
The ABs are still playing a defense-oriented counterattack game, which they only varied to a kicking game on the weekend because of the wet in the first half, then realised they had no ball to work with in the second and tried to dig their way out. They came up against a defence equal to the task and were stymied.
The players are good enough to bounce back from that. Hansen understands that sometimes you need to lead, sometimes you need to follow. But when you've got a team like that its mostly about getting the fuck out of the way, and making sure the little things are taken care of. Like lunch orders.
Sing while you're winning I guess. You think Hansen is a great workman when he's using the same tools and templates as the last bloke, that's your right.
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Phil Kearns (64)
Isn't that what he posted?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Send Hansen over: give everyone a common enemy
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I know this is going to sound weird but I'm hoping the Wallabies win tomorrow and go on to win the Bledisloe Cup in a few weeks time.
The reason is this...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-AK (Andrew Kellaway)-xfp1/t31.0-8/p600x600/10541396_10152606072995429_4979096729614657622_o.jpg
This, the cover of the Rugby News RC2014 special edition, appeared a few weeks ago right in the middle of the most bitter general election campaign in NZ for 30 years.
How would ordinary, working, socially conscious G&G posters feel if Tony Abbott appeared on the cover of the leading rugby magazine in the country, claiming to be pack leader and the #1 Wallabies supporter?
Go the Wallabies. I mean it.
The reason is this...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-AK (Andrew Kellaway)-xfp1/t31.0-8/p600x600/10541396_10152606072995429_4979096729614657622_o.jpg
This, the cover of the Rugby News RC2014 special edition, appeared a few weeks ago right in the middle of the most bitter general election campaign in NZ for 30 years.
How would ordinary, working, socially conscious G&G posters feel if Tony Abbott appeared on the cover of the leading rugby magazine in the country, claiming to be pack leader and the #1 Wallabies supporter?
Go the Wallabies. I mean it.
We have a Rugby magazine??
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
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