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New Zealand v Australia - Auckland - 23 August 2014

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Upthenuts

Dave Cowper (27)
for added entertainment i am hoping the wallabies get to play 20 minutes with 14 men, that would make a truely smashing game.
 

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
But it just didn't look right (whether it was legal or not is another point)

My thoughts exactly. When it happened I remmeber thinking "Beugen you drongo, whatFT are you doing there". It just looks all wrong and at the speed it happened I can easily see why Peyper the cross-eyed lemur of questionable parentage carded him.

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as for Crockett's, no problem there either, if only because it just looked all wrong. Even opposing HB's hardly ever get away with that play, unless half the team is yelling "ball's out" (or even the ref yelling it sometimes these days, wft is that about, gay world cup is in the other thread) let alone big lummox props who already have reps for costing their teams 300 penalties for every 8 minutes theyre on the f**kin field
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
The first yellow card was called for imo. The Wobs were getting a roll on and it was nothing more than a blatant attempt to kill off momentum. I don't believe for a second that the player thought he was entitled to take out the half back. cyncical stuff and deserved a card. This is the type of penalty that the All Blacks have been getting away with for years, mostly through Richie McCaw.

The second card was harsh imo and a simple penalty would have suffice. At the time I thought Peyper might be trying to make up for the fact that he made the worst "not straight" call in history only 5 minutes earlier, denying the wobs of a great attacking opportunity in the opposition's 22.
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
as for Crockett's, no problem there either

haha are we looking at different things? Crockett is already on his way to take out the half back before White get's his hands on the ball.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Yeah, but it skews out to the side. I'll track down that photo posted on TheRoar.

Here we go.

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He's already kicked it. See the Dimsal one's footage.
I'll tell you what: how about your Governor General issues an order in council today that the Wallabies are allowed to play the ball in this situation as much as they like on Saturday night?
We'll see how you like that.
 

Grant NZ

Bill Watson (15)
haha are we looking at different things? Crockett is already on his way to take out the half back before White get's his hands on the ball.

Hands on the ball is irrelevant, the IRB clarified that earlier in the year.

I still think it's marginal cause when Fardy releases the ball it's only sitting next to his legs, nothing on top, nothing on the other side - you can't even tell if the ball is in contact with any player in the ruck. Basically, you could make an argument that the ball is out regardless of White. But again, it's a 50/50 call, IMO.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Hands on the ball is irrelevant, the IRB clarified that earlier in the year.

I still think it's marginal cause when Fardy releases the ball it's only sitting next to his legs, nothing on top, nothing on the other side - you can't even tell if the ball is in contact with any player in the ruck. Basically, you could make an argument that the ball is out regardless of White. But again, it's a 50/50 call, IMO.

out of what?
if it was a ruck then he was in front of the hind most foot if its a tackle it only needs to be "near" and "near" is a variable concept intended to allow discretion depending on the precise circumstances.
 

Grant NZ

Bill Watson (15)
out of what?
if it was a ruck then he was in front of the hind most foot if its a tackle it only needs to be "near" and "near" is a variable concept intended to allow discretion depending on the precise circumstances.

That still image is after Fardy has released the ball. Crockett was behind the hindmost foot when that happened.
 

Grant NZ

Bill Watson (15)
On what planet is Barrett allowed to run straight through the tackle area to get back onside?

If he'd done that on the other side of halfway, maybe it's only a penalty. In that situation it had to be a yellow card.

How is that 'through the tackle area'? He's well to the side of the tackle to the point he doesn't come anywhere near touching Folau. More to the point, by the time he comes anywhere near the tackle area, the ball has already been pushed out by Folau. Has it been pushed out enough? Maybe, maybe not.
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
Crocket is VERY clearly not behind the hindmost foot in that image. We obviously see that picture differently
 

Grant NZ

Bill Watson (15)
He's already kicked it. See the Dimsal one's footage.
I'll tell you what: how about your Governor General issues an order in council today that the Wallabies are allowed to play the ball in this situation as much as they like on Saturday night?
We'll see how you like that.

Even if he's already kicked it in that still, he didn't kick it further away from the tackle did he?
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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How is that 'through the tackle area'? He's well to the side of the tackle to the point he doesn't come anywhere near touching Folau. More to the point, by the time he comes anywhere near the tackle area, the ball has already been pushed out by Folau. Has it been pushed out enough? Maybe, maybe not.

Watch Dismal Pillock's animated gif above. Barrett is about a foot away from Folau's head. How is that not through the tackle area?

@qwerty51 - what are we looking at besides your Toshiba television?
 

Grant NZ

Bill Watson (15)
Watch Dismal Pillock's animated gif above. Barrett is about a foot away from Folau's head. How is that not through the tackle area?

@qwerty51 - what are we looking at besides your Toshiba television?

Look at the picture I posted above, he's considerably more than a foot away. The tv picture flattens the image, so you can't really tell from the side on, but the end on view shows he's well to the side.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Even if he's already kicked it in that still, he didn't kick it further away from the tackle did he?

He shouldn't be anywhere near it!

Do you really think players are allowed to run back into an onside position that close to the play without risking their play being considered cynical and getting yellow carded?
 
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