Mowen Considering Move To France Over Pay Dispute

[Slim 293]

Well you should look again. First half 23-3 second half 5-5. First half kicked everything back to them second half played rugby.

 

[Sully]

Impressive comeback.

 

[Brumby Jack]

I thought the big Brumbies bopper would have been in contention by now.
Fotu Auelua

Nice trolling....

 

[Slim 293]

Impressive comeback.

I didn't think that "analysis" warranted anything more...........

 

[Sully]

Nice trolling..

Not trolling I thought he was pretty impressive and honestly thought he would be there abouts by now.

 

[Sully]

I didn't think that "analysis" warranted anything more.....

Well then you should do some 'analysis' of your own and watch the game again and use the rewind and slow motion buttons a little. so much cooler than emoticons.

 

[daz]

Palu's played more Test rugby than Higginbotham this year.

Well, yes. Higgers has been captaining team rehab for the second half of this year.

But my real point is that the very second Higgers is fit, he will be back in a Gold jersey.

One of the handful of Oz rugby players that can make that claim.

 

[Slim 293]

Well then you should do some 'analysis' of your own and watch the game again and use the rewind and slow motion buttons a little. so much cooler than emoticons.

And in doing all of that there was nothing shown from Genia that he deserves his starting spot back yet...........

Slightly improved from his previous abominations, but not good enough just yet..........

 

[Sully]

And in doing all of that

clearly not.

 

[Slim 293]

Whatever, back to Mowen.........

Having played every test this year as part of the leadership group, and having captained the team to their only win of the RC, I don't think it's a big ask to get a top up...........

Obviously the ARU's contracting system is so absurd that it makes this situation more complicated than it should..........

 

[daz]

And in doing all of that there was nothing shown from Genia that he deserves his starting spot back yet.....

Slightly improved from his previous abominations, but not good enough just yet....

In all honesty, I just have a gut feeling that Genia is burnt out and jaded. He has been carrying the load for years now and with the volume of pressure cooker rugby he has played, is it any wonder he is dropping below his peak performance.

For guys like Genia, I see huge value in taking a year off to play in France or Japan. Earn a few dollars, different lifestyle, less pressure. Get back to enjoying the game. I have no issue with some of our key players removing themselves for a year immediately after a RWC year.

Come back refreshed in time for the 2015 season.

 

[Slim 293]

Taking off the EOYT can also do wonders for a player..........

 

[Blake]

He is in no position to bargain hard. If spits dummy like his old boss then seeyalaterbenny

I guess it depends how much he has been offered by the frogs, he can afford to bargain hard if failed negotiations means a 300K pay rise.

 

[No4918]

Why?

Did he actually do enough to suggest he deserves to be starting again?

I don't think so....

White crashed back to earth. His option taking was poor and kicks often aimless. Hoofing it down field was likely a big part of the plan but I doubt he was told to kick every time he got the ball.

 

[Scrubber2050]

I guess it depends how much he has been offered by the frogs, he can afford to bargain hard if failed negotiations means a 300K pay rise.

Blake, for an EXTRA 300 grand I'd sell the wife, and head OS

 

[daz]

Taking off the EOYT can also do wonders for a player....

Yep. Perfect time to give the job to White for the entire tour to see how he goes, with a young talent as backup.

People talk about Wallaby games not being the time to develop, but given our current situation I say bollocks to that. Worst case is we drop a few places on the IRB rankings, but have a few more weapons up our sleeve in 2014.

One step back to go two steps forward.

 

[Gnostic]

This all comes back to the ridiculous contracting system in Australia IMO..

As far as I am concerned the whole top up system is just a farce. Do away with top ups altogether.

Incentivise selection in a graduated system which progressively pays more the further you go. The ARU can budget quickly and easily and wont end up having massive contract payments to players who are injured and not available, sometimes for extended periods.

Reward actual performance and encourage true competition, instead of rewarding form from 18 months or longer previous to the actual payment.

This gets away from the marketable individuals getting paid huge amounts whilst those players also part of a team don't get nearly the same. Rugby is not an individual sport and individuals rarely win games. The individual if they are that marketable could be free to promote products and services away from the team in any way they want, and thereby capitalise on their individual profile, in addition to what their team produces.

 

[I like to watch]

So what happens when 4 or 5 of the stars are told their guaranteed wage is half what they can get O/S,and they all decide they are not prepared to punt that they will play everyTest and therefore get 80% of what they are guaranteed O/S?
There is no easy solution,when the bottom line is top players have to take a pay cut to stay here.

 

[cyclopath]

God this thread is fucked up. It looked like it was about Mowen being undervalued, then it was a bitch about Palu, then sniping at Auelua (isnt he injured), then more crap about halfbacks, and how good Higginbotham's form is at the physio's office!!
Shall I just change the title to "The Forum Septic Tank"??
FFS!

 

[kiap]