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MOTM 3-2-1 Wallabies vs All Blacks, Sydney

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Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
3.Beale - another great game and he will remain as a Wallaby starter from this point on
2. Pocock - Standard Bamm Bamm fare
1. McCalman - Yes, he really stood up. There is a bit of Finegan in him.
 

topo

Cyril Towers (30)
3. Beale: When he's hot he's hot.
2. Turner: JO'C could learn a lot from this guy.
1. McCalman: BIG DOG!!

Honourable mentions to Sharpe and the Rock. Sharpe's lineout and restart work was the best we have had for a long time and Rocky was creating havoc out wide and did a lot of defence.
 

Thin Thighs

Ted Fahey (11)
3 Gilbert Beale
2 Nathan Sharpe
1 Lachie Turner

Note to the Gaggerland's Nickname committee. I propose "the Wind" for Lachie Turner as in "Run like the wind", or "Forest" as in "Run, Forest, Run".
 

naza

Alan Cameron (40)
From the votes for Turner, it beggars belief that he was cast aside earlier in the season. He played how a winger really should.

Cast side ? He has been given chances and hasn't taken them. He was toothless in the Aus BaaBaa games. He kicks incessantly. I don't think he was that good tonight either. He didn't convert his try scoring opportunity. In the 2nd half, he opted to run inside his own 40 at one stage & the ABs turned him over. Can't remember if they ended up scoring of that but it was a momentum killer for us.

3. Beale. Is on fire.
2. McCalman. Physical, dynamic, surprised with the ball in hand too. One of the only blokes cleaning out. Would love to see Elsom following McCalman's abrasive approach.
1. Moore. Was everywhere.
 

TheRiddler

Dave Cowper (27)
3. Beale
2. Turner
1. Moore

Think Ma'afu is being unfairly criticised at the mo. Last night was probably his best game for the Wobblies, he upped his work rate around the park, was effective a number of times in the loose and did OK against The Myth who, yet again, got away with murder last night. How many times does he have to drop his bind on the engage, put his hand to stabilise himself and then bore in before the ref/touchy spot it and do something about it?
 

Jnor

Peter Fenwicke (45)
3. Beale/KB (Kurtley Beale)/Gilbert/Sugar Ray - always looks like he has so much time, a sign of some of the best
2. Pocock - does anyone have more guts and determination?
1. McCalman - a few more like that and he's a chance of keeping no.8 when Palu gets back.

Hounourable mention to Turner; completely solid and played a proper winger's game. Rocky has played much better in the last two - a result of Big Dog doing the work in tight? Really needs to work on his ref-speak but at least he's doing it.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Cast side ? He has been given chances and hasn't taken them. He was toothless in the Aus BaaBaa games. He kicks incessantly. I don't think he was that good tonight either. He didn't convert his try scoring opportunity. In the 2nd half, he opted to run inside his own 40 at one stage & the ABs turned him over. Can't remember if they ended up scoring of that but it was a momentum killer for us.

3. Beale. Is on fire.
2. McCalman. Physical, dynamic, surprised with the ball in hand too. One of the only blokes cleaning out. Would love to see Elsom following McCalman's abrasive approach.
1. Moore. Was everywhere.

Yes, naza, cast aside.
The BaaBaas games were an uncoached mess. He played very good rugby pretty much all S14, was part of a few very lacklustre early international games (the whole team sucked balls if you recall) and then sent away apparently unlikely to return - until injuries hit. He played last night how he played most of the S14. How can you criticise him not getting that try? He did everything possible in that amount of space, and missed it by a toe. Very harsh call to bag him for that. He defended well. He supported the kick receivers well.
Wing is not a position you just chuck anyone in and get a result. Sure it aint the most important position on the field, but really good wingers are...wingers, not 12s, 13s and halfbacks masquerading out there. He probably would have scored the tries that Beiber has, but I bet would have committed far fewer defensive errors in the bargain.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
3. KB (Kurtley Beale) - Gilbert Beale - Is it too early to start to compare him with Campo
2. Nathan Sharpe
1. Moore/Turner

Honorable mentions: Bam Bam McCock, McCalman, Ma'afu (played his best golden game to warrant a mention but still a bit below par for the Wobs), Earl Two Fathers Cooper
 

naza

Alan Cameron (40)
Yes, naza, cast aside.
The BaaBaas games were an uncoached mess. He played very good rugby pretty much all S14, was part of a few very lacklustre early international games (the whole team sucked balls if you recall) and then sent away apparently unlikely to return - until injuries hit. He played last night how he played most of the S14. How can you criticise him not getting that try? He did everything possible in that amount of space, and missed it by a toe. Very harsh call to bag him for that. He defended well. He supported the kick receivers well.
Wing is not a position you just chuck anyone in and get a result. Sure it aint the most important position on the field, but really good wingers are...wingers, not 12s, 13s and halfbacks masquerading out there. He probably would have scored the tries that Beiber has, but I bet would have committed far fewer defensive errors in the bargain.

I'm not bagging Turner. I'm objecting to the perception that he's been hard done by. I watch him play for Eastwood and roll my eyes at Papworth banging on 'what is wrong Wallaby selectors..' etc. The guy was a deer in headlights in the Aus BaaBaas games. O'Connor carved up in game 1 and won a test spot on the back of that performance. End of.

Turner's style of play isn't helping him. He has great pace and needs to learn how to make the most of it. He's gone into his shell and become a conservative player, kicking like he's fair dinkum Naas Botha, at a time when coaches are looking for all out attacking flair. Who do you drop to get Turner a start ? Mitchell & JOC (James O'Connor) are both very aggressive guys who don't die wondering. Ioane is the power runner we need, and brings balance to the backline. All three are superior to Turner at working in traffic. All three make things happen and have a knack for scoring tries. Turner needs to step up to retain the wing spot, and that means he needs to convert those tough opportunities.
 

Groucho

Greg Davis (50)
I'm not bagging Turner. I'm objecting to the perception that he's been hard done by. I watch him play for Eastwood and roll my eyes at Papworth banging on 'what is wrong Wallaby selectors..' etc. The guy was a deer in headlights in the Aus BaaBaas games. O'Connor carved up in game 1 and won a test spot on the back of that performance. End of.

Turner's style of play isn't helping him. He has great pace and needs to learn how to make the most of it. He's gone into his shell and become a conservative player, kicking like he's fair dinkum Naas Botha, at a time when coaches are looking for all out attacking flair. Who do you drop to get Turner a start ? Mitchell & JOC (James O'Connor) are both very aggressive guys who don't die wondering. Ioane is the power runner we need, and brings balance to the backline. All three are superior to Turner at working in traffic. All three make things happen and have a knack for scoring tries. Turner needs to step up to retain the wing spot, and that means he needs to convert those tough opportunities.

I agree with all that. Like he converted this one. :)

Turner has a lot to add to the mix. But he does have to get his confidence back to deliver on his natural gifts.
 
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Paradox

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Turner stuffed a "wingers try" and not for the first time. A Rathbone, Tune or Roff would have taken that try. Other than that he was ok but created very little. His first instinct is to kick.
 
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