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More rubbish journalism from the SMH

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Andrew Slack (58)
I wish they would stop ruining my Saturday morning oatmeal.

Who is Melissa Woods? Possibly another journo who knows shit but is allowed to write about rugby as long as it make League look good.

She talks about a fucking exodus back to league from rugby. Either she is taking the piss or she is stupid and her editor is even more daft to publish such drivel.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...oin-exodus-back-to-league-20101008-16bwv.html

Rebels flyer Rooney in no hurry to join exodus back to league
Melissa Woods
October 9, 2010

MELBOURNE REBELS winger Luke Rooney says he's not swayed by the swag of players returning to league after a stint in rugby.

After spending eight years in the NRL with Penrith, where he was born and raised, and winning six Australian Test caps, Rooney walked away from league in 2008 to try his hand at rugby union. High-profile stars Wendell Sailor, Lote Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Mark Gasnier and Timana Tahu have all rejoined the league ranks after playing rugby union.
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But Rooney, who started his new career in the French Top 14 competition with Toulon, said his was a different scenario. With the exception of Gasnier, who also played in France, the others managed successful careers with the Wallabies, including a World Cup campaign.

''They've achieved everything in the game,'' Rooney said. ''I guess when you've played league all your life and you switch over, then you might want to give it another try.

''I miss it a bit because it's the game I grew up with and a lot of my friends still play. [But] at the moment I'm not even thinking about going back there, I'm enjoying rugby too much.''


Rooney once had ambitions of playing rugby for England, for which he qualified through his English parents, however his return to Australia to test himself in the Super Rugby arena ended that.

He has pledged his allegiance to the Wallabies, although feels Test selection is some way off. ''I've got a lot of learning to do, I need to get Super 15 rugby under my belt at the moment, but maybe in the long term,'' the 27-year-old said.

''I've only played union for two years, and it's different rugby over there [France].''

Rooney, who scored two tries in the 2003 NRL grand final victory against the Roosters, said rugby was something he'd always wanted to play. He felt France was an ideal place to start his new career, out of the spotlight as he learnt the new rules alongside teammate and fellow convert Sonny Bill Williams, who is now trying to forge an All Blacks career.

''It took me a while to get my bearings, but I think I've been going all right,'' Rooney said. ''I'm understanding the game, and enjoying it a lot and that's the main thing.''

Before starting with the Rebels, who join the expanded Super Rugby competition in February, Rooney intended furthering his rugby education in New Zealand in the ITM Cup with Hawke's Bay. That hit a snag when he was injured two games in.

''I did my groin, pulled a bit of bone off,'' Rooney said. ''They said six weeks and it happened nine weeks ago but we're just taking it slowly as a precaution.''
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
It's pretty simple, really. The SMH has the rugby demographic, no matter what. So they are putting all their resources into expanding their readership into the areas where they are not so strong - guess what, that means downmarket, to the league demographic.

It's called "capitalism".
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
I try to make sure I have eaten, had coffee (triple shot flat white) and preferably performed my morning ablutions before I venture into the herald...avoids all sorts of gastro-intestinal upset.
The SMH is bereft when it comes to rugby reporting. Totally.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
In the absence of a decent Chief Correspondent to mentor the young folk, they will write whatever they think will get them a byline.

Been said before that the best rugby correspondent for SMH is Fitzy. Bit sad really.
Rugbyheaven.com.au is not much better. Most stories are up there for too long, and hardly incisive.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Staff member
Basically she had an interview with Roonay and could have gone any direction with it; his crazy experiences in France, how the Rebs shaping up etc. Stuff a rugby reader could learn from.

Instead she goes the laziest of lazy loig vs yawnion route.

Poor
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
In the absence of a decent Chief Correspondent to mentor the young folk, they will write whatever they think will get them a byline.

Been said before that the best rugby correspondent for SMH is Fitzy. Bit sad really.
Rugbyheaven.com.au is not much better. Most stories are up there for too long, and hardly incisive.


Phil Wilkins is still the best by far, although he only appears occasionally these days.
 

Elfster

Alex Ross (28)
It beggars disbelief that the SMH's nominal "Chief Rugby Correspondent" disappeared and didn't even bother covering or being around for the final few weeks of the Sydney Club Rugby season: there may be valid reasons, but to me it is despairingly contemptuous of the target audience for which he is supposed to cater. But that said, the Herald has gone down market and the general stuff written there is grammatically poor opinion pieces seething of self-righteous importance written by arrogant, self-indulgent clowns who, from their position to the left of most things, thinks it allows them to dictate, sneer and belittle the lesser people who they think are unfortunate not to be employed by that good ship "Fairfax". Unless of course you are a League follower and they will do their best to fill the pages with small minded dross to cater for the "greatest game of all" and "game of the people". A sports type opiate, similar to the circuses of Ancient Rome, and designed to pad and to satiate the ignorant, easily catered for whims and desires of a large swathe of the populace.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
C'mon Elfster, Out with it. Don't beat around the bush. Tell us exactly what you want to say.:rolleyes:

I agree with you. The media ignore Rugby fullstop.

You need to browse the net and rely on GAGR for any decent information.

Most of what is on Fox Sports Aust is limited in value.
 

Nusadan

Chilla Wilson (44)
Just checked, David Kirk the AB World Cup winning captain is no longer running SMH...not since December 2008...is the timing coincidental?

Also his wiki entry says his two of his sons attend Sydney Grammar...any info on their rugby prowess?
 
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GC

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You think that article is crap, check this one out for the UK Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...weak-australia-pack-next-month-2097666.html):

England to face weak Australia pack next month

By Chris Hewett, Rugby Union Correspondent


When England returned home from a drawn series in Australia a little over three months ago, they did not know quite where they stood vis-à-vis the Wallabies. On the one hand, they had won Down Under for only the third time in rugby history; on the other, they had played against a team so pathetically weak in the scrum that the entire tour had been hopelessly distorted. Unfortunately for Martin Johnson and the rest of the red-rose hierarchy, they are unlikely to be any the wiser come the end of November.

England play the Wallabies at Twickenham in six weeks' time, and the sides will not meet again unless and until they reach the semi-finals – or the final – of next year's World Cup in New Zealand. Victory would obviously be handy for Johnson in terms of making an early point, but as the Australians will again be light up front, it may not amount to much.

This time, the Wallabies have issues in the back five of the scrum rather than the front row. They are struggling badly for bodies in the lock department: James Horwill, one of the key figures in the Australia pack, and Mark Chisholm are both injured, while Dan Vickerman is studying at Cambridge University and is not of a mind to forgo the fascinations of land economy in favour of a few weeks' bump and grind with his fellow countrymen. As a result, the uncapped Queensland forward Van Humphries has been summoned at the ripe old age of 34, along with a fellow rookie in Pat O'Connor of New South Wales.

In the back row, the hole left by Wycliff Palu remains unfilled – his long-term injury problems appear to be stretching into infinity – while Stephen Hoiles, the flanker who led the Australian second string in two midweek matches against England during the summer, is also unfit.

These orthopaedic problems extend to the backs, where the likes of Digby Ioane, Stirling Mortlock and Rob Horne are off limits. As a consequence, the Wallaby coach, Robbie Deans, has named a dozen uncapped players in his 40-man training squad, which will be cut to a more manageable size later this month, ahead of embarkation.

Shorter version: England has already won the test against the Wobs before they set foot on Pommy soil, but we shouldn't take too much from it because they're rubbish.
 

Jnor

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Wow, that is truly rubbish. Aside from the fact its author obviously hasnt even seen any of the tri-nations it's not even worth commenting on.

Also, GC, where your avatar at? I thought it was compulsory after you crack the half-ton.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Is it really that rubbish? We *do* have problems at lock, but I agree that they are overlooking how strong our back row is. The fact is that our front row will be considerably stronger in the EOYT and that will surprise a few people. It would be a huge shock is we were backpedalling at the same rate as in June.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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I am VERY happy to see that in the English press. The more they talk us down the more motivated our guys are to prove them wrong, and the funnier it is when we inevitably/hopefully win. This smacks of Stephen Jones' article before Baxter's destruction of Sheridan a few years ago, think it was Scotty's signature for a fair while?
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Paul Ackford thinks otherwise

Paul Ackford: England take note as All Blacks break away from set pieces

The domination of the All Blacks in the Tri-Nations was due to new thinking away from set pieces and England have seen the signs.

By Paul Ackford
Published: 4:00PM BST 09 Oct 2010

Heads up all you wannabe-England players out there. The goalposts have shifted.

When Brian Smith, England's attack coach, was appointed in July 2008, his principal objective was to get England scoring three tries a game.

At that time the evidence suggested that sides who managed that won the majority of their matches. But two years is an age in the evolution of elite sport, and the emphasis has shifted somewhat.

Obviously, tries are still very much a going concern but, as the Tri-Nations demonstrated, they're two-a-penny these days, and a haul of three won't necessarily see off the top opponents.

As England gear up for their four autumn internationals against New Zealand, Australia, Samoa and South Africa, the first against the All Blacks just a month distant, the talk is of 'red zones' and 'conversion rates', and of new selection criteria which contributed to the demise of former England captain Steve Borthwick.

On the face of it, the desire to pick up points each time England venture into the so-called red zone, an area between the 22 and the goal line, is hardly earth-shattering.

New Zealand have long been past masters of putting away chances, and one of the glories of the Tri-Nations was viewing the significant hike in Black urgency and ruthlessness when they get close.

Everything seems to bristle when New Zealand sniff opportunities. Their concentration and focus improves, they hit contact harder, their energy levels rise.

It is as much a state of mind as anything, an inheritance which is passed on from one generation to the next, and it is very difficult to coach.

England, at present, lack that efficiency, and it is this which Martin Johnson and his coaches are specifically seeking to address, to the extent that they are prepared to jettison conventional thinking as to how England have always gone about winning games.

Think England and what picture emerges? Big, beefy forwards, adept at winning first-phase possession, competent at restarts? Well, that was then.

This autumn the accent is on mobility and havoc-creation. Influential figures within the England coaching set up are now openly talking about going into Tests with a less than dominant scrum and line-out because those are way down the food-chain when it comes to winning Tests.

It's why Borthwick is no longer involved, why Dylan Hartley is currently a smidgen ahead of Steve Thompson in the race for the hooker's spot, why Courtney Lawes, Dave Attwood and Tom Palmer are the new blue-eyed boys of the tight five.

Two incidents during the summer serve as illustration. The first occurred in July when New Zealand confronted South Africa in Wellington in the second match of the Tri-Nations.

It wasn't the All Blacks' 31-17 victory which was necessarily surprising, more the manner of it.

New Zealand scored four tries that day to the Boks' two, but they did so without the conventional platforms. In a game where there were only 33 set pieces – 15 scrums and 18 line-outs – the Blacks lost four of their 10 line-outs and had only five scrummages to work off.

South Africa were flawless in both those departments, hitting a perfect return in all 10 of their scrums and all eight of their line-outs, but came second by a margin of 14 points.

The lesson was clear. It didn't matter that the Boks controlled the ball at scrum and line-out. The killing fields were elsewhere.

The second incident took place during England's second Test against the Wallabies in Sydney when Palmer, a lock who has been on the fringes of the England side for a number of years, found himself one out from a ruck on a short, well-defended blindside on the edge of the red zone.

What happened next can still coax a grin from Johnson because Palmer received a pass from Ben Youngs and, without appearing to take stock, immediately whipped it inside into the hands of a speeding Chris Ashton who scored.

It was exactly the kind of try which England have found so difficult to come by in their recent past and which is very much on their radar.

Of course, a balance has to be struck. It is inconceivable that England would enter a Test with a creaky scrum and a wobbly line-out, but players are now assessed favourably by what they can offer outside of those areas.

Palmer, for instance, is not especially competent when it comes to restart receptions, Lawes isn't necessarily England's best scrummaging lock, Hartley still has moments when the red mist descends, leading to penalties and a lack of concentration at line-out and scrum-time.

Yet, Palmer's mobility and soft hands, Lawes's dynamism and aggression in the tackle, and Hartley's work at the breakdown are held in greater regard.

Borthwick is the glaring casualty of the new thinking. No one was more efficient in the old ways of a lock forward but, unless he bolts on some carrying power or develops some bite at the breakdown, his days in the wilderness will continue.

Ironic that Johnson, one of the great tight forwards of his generation, is presiding over a redrafting of the rules?

Absolutely, but fascinating, too, because unless England shed their old ways and embrace what the game is becoming, they will be chasing Black shadows from next month until the start of the World Cup.

And that will be no fun whatsoever.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
Staff member
I think it is a change that England needed to make years ago. Yes the tactic of playing 8 elephants in the pack occassionally pays dividends- eg the 2007 QF, but most of the time it does more harm than good. Saying that I think that the backline still pose far greater problems for Johnson than the forwards.
 

stoff

Trevor Allan (34)
So if Van Humpries gets a test on the EOYT will he:

a) be the oldest Wallaby debutant
If he plays in any of the five Tests, 34-year-old Humphries will become the oldest Wallaby debutant ever.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/van-poised-for-historic-wallabies-debut-20101014-16lhm.html

or b) not be the oldest Wallaby debutant
At least at the ripe old age of 34 he won't take the unenviable title of the Wallabies' oldest Test player on debut, as both John Holdsworth and Clifford Lang were in their late 30s when they first appeared in the green and gold in the 1920s and 30s respectively.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/van-about-the-house-needs-cap-to-maintain-balance-20101014-16lv3.html

Looks like the SMH leaves it up to you to decide.
 
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