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Melbourne Storm / Rebels / Waldrom

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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Re: Melbourne Storm stripped of 2007 + 2009 premierships

I would have thought Waldrom was doing this at the direction (perhaps just informally) of the board.

Very easy to blame someone who doesn't work there anymore.
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
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Certainly Noddy. I mean he wasn't spending his own $$$ and I have a feeling that no successful company wouldn't know exactly how their dollars were being spent.

It isn't so much that it's criminal or that he acted alone it's just that it would be bad PR to keep him on. He did at very least behave unethically.
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
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It's very much so criminal. It's fraud. Rugby league is professional, therefore it's run as a business. All incomings/outgoings must be declared & on record. The architect of this is in serious shit.

Due to fraudulant behaviour, their incomings through prize money (over 1 mill), revenue from finals games, sponsorship, everything has been increased.

How you can say that this is only "unethical" leaves me completely bewildered!
 
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TOCC

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Aussie D said:
TOCC said:
i say sack Waldrom now, undoubtedly he would have had indepth knowledge of these events, cut ties with him now and save face later on. There are potential criminal charges to come out of this whole ordeal.
the mungo chat forums have gone into absolute melt down!

What law has he broken? He has just broken the rules of a sporting competition and the Storm will bear the brunt of that. In rugby the only rule is that clubs can't directly act as brokers between player agents and third parties (as far as I am aware). The league media are going to pin all the blame on him and try to stir up a lynch mob to go after him. So Manly and Parramatta are now credited with "winning" the '07 and '09 premierships? My mate is a Parra fan so he will be happy.

fraud is criminal
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
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maybe melbourne will be able to know what real rugby is now?
 
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daz

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I'm no fan of league, but my heart goes out to the Storm grass-roots fans and supporters. I'd be absolutely gutted and filthy at the management.

Given how tough it has been for the Storm to get huge crowds, are we now watching the death of a footy team? Good news for the Rebels I guess, but still....
 

TheRiddler

Dave Cowper (27)
Re: Melbourne Storm stripped of 2007 + 2009 premierships

As a wise man once wrote a few months back.... :)

TheRiddler said:
Not sure I totally agree on the credentials of Waldron. Despite the Storm being very successful on the field, they were still bleeding cash at an alarming rate and had to be continually propped up by News Ltd. Surely the financial affairs of the club were ultimately the responsibility of the CEO? And if he allowed cash out to be substantially greater than cash in for a number of years then that should send warning signals?
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
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daz said:
I'm no fan of league, but my heart goes out to the Storm grass-roots fans and supporters. I'd be absolutely gutted and filthy at the management.

Given how tough it has been for the Storm to get huge crowds, are we now watching the death of a footy team? Good news for the Rebels I guess, but still....

Yeah, I totally second you on that one. The fans have done nothing wrong but they are going to be the ones who suffer the most.
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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Re: Melbourne Storm stripped of 2007 + 2009 premierships

15 Cipriani
14 Slater
13 Inglis
12 Mortlock
11 Betham
10 Cronk
9 Kingi
8 Delve
7 Smith (Cameron)
6 Saffy
5 Byrne
4 Jones
3 Weeks
2 Freier
1 Sommerville.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Re: Melbourne Storm stripped of 2007 + 2009 premierships

I bet Chambers is very happy with his decision right now.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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what was the faud?

Just to the NRL? I guess we don't know what was reported to the Govt.

If it was bigger picture fraud, as in they weren't declaring certain incomings and outcomings, then yeah, its fraud. But inr reality? In commerical terms? It aint big money. Its slap on the wrist stuff and the board are in more trouble than Waldrom.

If its just what was reported to the NRL that was manipulated, then Waldrom's scott free in my book. From a criminal sense. And I used to watch Night Court!
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
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Aussie D said:
So Manly and Parramatta are now credited with "winning" the '07 and '09 premierships? My mate is a Parra fan so he will be happy.

No, and you can tell him that Parra won nothing.

The Storm knocked out two teams which could've won in the semis. Plus changes the scope of the finals series.

The minor premierships and be re-awarded to the second team. You simply can't award the premiership to the losing grand finalists.
 
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Phantom_Prop

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Hmm, the article says that it was 1.7 over the last 5 years including 700k for the 2010 year, bit harsh to blame it all on waldron, when did he finish with them? they basically moved 250k a year over the first 4, then went crazy this year
 

Sandpit Fan

Nev Cottrell (35)
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With Fox as the broadcast partner for SANZAR, there is no way Waldron can remain as CEO of the Rebels, regardless of what he might or might not have done while at the Storm. He's tainted by association, and particularly as they were a News owned club, there would always be a cloud over him.

Expect an announcement by tomorrow that the Rebels are in the market for a new CEO as well as a few Storm players, Waldron having stepped down for the good of the club, despite having no knowledge of what went on at the Storm!
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Go Manly, back to back premiers!
 
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chief

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Watch as Melbourne Storm crowds dwindle this year, that there beloved team will be excluded from the finals.

Waldrom's gone, no matter what. It's okay, we'll take someone who is willing to take the Melbourne Storm players.

I was reading Chambers' Reds profile the other day, says his most prized possession is that premiership ring they get.
 
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daz

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Sandpit Fan said:
With Fox as the broadcast partner for SANZAR, there is no way Waldron can remain as CEO of the Rebels, regardless of what he might or might not have done while at the Storm. He's tainted by association, and particularly as they were a News owned club, there would always be a cloud over him.

Expect an announcement by tomorrow that the Rebels are in the market for a new CEO as well as a few Storm players, Waldron having stepped down for the good of the club, despite having no knowledge of what went on at the Storm!

Agree 100%. There is no way a fledgling club in a hostile market looking for sponsers and dues paying members is going to carry a liability like this, regardless of what Waldron did or didn't know.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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pffft, no salary cap in rugby. Bring him on.

I wonder if this will impact on the crowds for the test match in Melbourne. You know the ANZAC Day test they are playing in a couple of weeks?
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Re: Melbourne Storm stripped of 2007 + 2009 premierships

In statement released by the NRL, it was revealed that "the Storm maintained a dual contract system and the club has today confirmed that side letters promising extra payments were stored in a secret file at the home of the Chief Executive. The accounts were structured in such a way that it would appear the commitments were not apparent to either the Melbourne Storm Board or its owners."

News Ltd chairman John Hartigan said "at this early stage" the architect of the elaborate payment system was former chief executive Brian Waldron, now the boss of incoming Super 15 rugby union team Melbourne Rebels. The Storm are owned by News Ltd.

The Storm's acting chief executive Matt Hansen has been stood down.

This is not a good look. This will take a few days to settle down to see if Waldron or Hansen cops most of the blame. But I suspect that the information released so far points towards both guys going down.
 
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