Melbourne Rebels 2024

[upthereds#!]

RA will help in the interim to get the team through 2024. They will do everything to avoid being financial tethered in 2025, even though they need the team to see out the television contract. Interesting Rebels brought up that they were keen on the centralisation aspect, but RA are the ones who went cold. Well they clearly went cold when they saw just how bad it was there.

My theory.

RA don't want them to fold (but won't mind if its after 2025), but will lean on the VIC governments appetite for ultimately major WC features, even the final, to have them step in for additional funding to secure the events. I believe that whilst RA says that no rebels does not mean not necessarily mean no tests in Melbourne, that will be the case.

 

[Rebelsfan]

Just checked the daily news results, not a mention of the Rebels. Makes me doubt any of the articles so far.

Seems Paul Docherty is now being accusing of stealing money from all these businesses now as well, behind a pay walk so can't read that one.

sounds dodgy . Glad I didn't invest in his companies

 

[stoff]

sounds dodgy . Glad I didn't invest in his companies

Without reading the article due to the strength of the Murdoch paywall, I assume it is about him being a member and regional director of the YPO ( based on the photo I can see in the article), and then goes on to talk about how secretive this group of people who became CEOs or chairs prior to age 45 of an organisation of some scale (28,000 members head organisations turning over $6trillion). Unless KevinO is seeing a different article I think it is just typical Stephen Drill doing a quick google and aiming for click bait trying to up his Verity scores and click bait bonuses.

News Corp tabloid the Herald Sun offers journalists cash bonuses for clicks | News Corporation | The Guardian

Reporters to be financially rewarded if readers subscribe to site and reach certain number of page views

amp.theguardian.com

Journalists question News Corp’s prediction tool

Newspaper publishers always want to learn more about readers. But how far will a publication go to get someone to pay?

amp.smh.com.au

 

[Crashy]

Just checked the daily news results, not a mention of the Rebels. Makes me doubt any of the articles so far.

Seems Paul Docherty is now being accusing of stealing money from all these businesses now as well, behind a pay walk so can't read that one.

Behind a paywall but was in the AFR yesterday.

Rebels board inches towards VA; Rugby Australia appoints Deloitte

Sources said restructuring partner, Jason Tracy, was formally appointed on Friday.

www.afr.com

 

[Adam84]

Behind a paywall but was in the AFR yesterday.

Rebels board inches towards VA; Rugby Australia appoints Deloitte

Sources said restructuring partner, Jason Tracy, was formally appointed on Friday.

www.afr.com

Not much new; just that RA have called in Deloitte as their own advisor on the situation, and Rebels linked to both PwC and Wexted Advisory for potential Voluntary Administration proceedings.

Deliberations over the future of the Melbourne Rebels have moved slowly this the weekend as the embattled rugby union club backed by BRC Capital slides slowly towards administration.

Rugby Australia, which oversees the code, is pushing for the club to remain in the next season – which could be difficult given its precarious financial position.

Now, Street Talk can reveal the Phil Waugh-led RA has hired Deloitte as its own adviser as it navigates the likely collapse of a major franchise. Sources said restructuring partner, Jason Tracy, was formally appointed on Friday.

Of note, Joseph Hayes from Wexted Advisory has been mentioned in several dispatches as the likely administrator; however, the board has also considered PwC’s Melbourne team, sources said.

This newspaper revealed last month that the Rebels had outstanding tax bills and stadium fees that were unpaid as of last month, with debts of more than $10 million. On Thursday, Rugby Australia said it had asked the club to seek external advice about its finances.

Paul Docherty’s BRC Capital is a major sponsor of the Rebels, which finished 11th in Super Rugby last season, tipping in about $100,000 a year in sponsorship contributions.

Six companies that had received investment from BRC Capital have been placed into administration over the past two months, with administrators discovering they owe more than $50 million in salaries, superannuation, contractors and tax liabilities. Another four companies have either been issued with wind-up orders or liquidated.

 

[Pfitzy]

Rebels need a Twiggy.

Look at French rugby: billionaires all over the shop.

 

[Rebel man]

Only so much you can trust the media last Friday they were in administration now they are inching towards it

 

[oztimmay]

Nice article from Geoff Parkes.

The Wrap: Unity, integrity and the other casualties of shameful leaks aimed at the Rebels

On Monday 20th November, in the wake of the removal of Hamish McLennan, newly minted Rugby Australia chairman, Daniel Herbert, told reporters; “We keep…

www.theroar.com.au

 

[Dctarget]

Nice article from Geoff Parkes.

The Wrap: Unity, integrity and the other casualties of shameful leaks aimed at the Rebels

On Monday 20th November, in the wake of the removal of Hamish McLennan, newly minted Rugby Australia chairman, Daniel Herbert, told reporters; “We keep…

www.theroar.com.au

Jeez, I've been very reluctant to see the more conspiratorial side of this all but that's shitty behaviour from RA. Not sure how the Rebels are meant to navigate this when the conclusion seems to already be written.

 

[Wilson]

Jeez, I've been very reluctant to see the more conspiratorial side of this all but that's shitty behaviour from RA. Not sure how the Rebels are meant to navigate this when the conclusion seems to already be written.

I broadly agree with him but I'm not sure the organization or competence is necessarily there at RA for conspiracy as much as it is individual bad actors. It'll be interesting to see how RA move forward from here though, if they want to move on from the McLennan era there clearly need to be more changes. Nothing in the way this saga has played put will have helped their case for managing national alignment as things currently stand.

Parkes' defence of Docherty is pretty misguided though. Countless "dedicated rugby men" have run the game into the ground in this country and the bulk of the reporting about him has focused on the factual issues plaguing BRC Capital. There is no version of the club he sits at the head of being in this much financial strife in which he doesn't bare significant responsibility.

 

[Dctarget]

Parkes' defence of Docherty is pretty misguided though. Countless "dedicated rugby men" have run the game into the ground in this country and the bulk of the reporting about him has focused on the factual issues plaguing BRC Capital. There is no version of the club he sits at the head of being in this much financial strife in which he doesn't bare significant responsibility.

Depends how much weight is behind the promise to re-instate the pre-Covid allowance. If it was just an indication not a guarantee yeah Docherty is dumb.

 

[Dctarget]

Criminal that this is being dealt with via leaks to the media. I was so excited for the coaching line up this year with Harris, Stiles, Taylor, Sampson & Parling. Really feel for them now, what a shit sandwich.

 

[Wilson]

Depends how much weight is behind the promise to re-instate the pre-Covid allowance. If it was just an indication not a guarantee yeah Docherty is dumb.

The weight of the debt they accrued in that period would still be incredibly problematic even if it was re-instated this year - it's not as though there was ever any suggestion that the shortfall from the previous 3 years would've been paid out to the teams.

 

[hoggy]

Sorry but this is Geoff Parkes an kiwi living in Melbourne, who's steadfastly backed the status quo of Australian rugby for the last 10 years, grain of Salt, ya need a 20KG bag of rock salt.

 

[Derpus]

Rebels need a Twiggy.

Look at French rugby: billionaires all over the shop.

You have to wonder what good it is being the toffs sport of choice if they aren't even willing to lose hundreds of millions of dollars propping up an unsupported team/comp.

 

[Ignoto]

Jeez, I've been very reluctant to see the more conspiratorial side of this all but that's shitty behaviour from RA. Not sure how the Rebels are meant to navigate this when the conclusion seems to already be written.

Geoff is being pretty generous to the Rebels and the complete miss-management though.

Dubious things were done in 2017 with their license, then, when the Force did fold, the Rebels were the biggest beneficiaries from coaching and players flowing to the Rebels. That's on top of the Rebels being given preferential treatment by RA through contracting of non-eligible players.

I don't believe the Rebels will be gone next year, RA won't let that happen commercially. I'd imagine RA will lean on their networks to find the cash to either buy back the Rebels or have an "ally" step in and buy them.

 

[Rebel man]

Geoff is being pretty generous to the Rebels and the complete miss-management though.

Dubious things were done in 2017 with their license, then, when the Force did fold, the Rebels were the biggest beneficiaries from coaching and players flowing to the Rebels. That's on top of the Rebels being given preferential treatment by RA through contracting of non-eligible players.

I don't believe the Rebels will be gone next year, RA won't let that happen commercially. I'd imagine RA will lean on their networks to find the cash to either buy back the Rebels or have an "ally" step in and buy them.

Surely they just hand the rebels some of the cash from the Vic government for the World Cup Final

 

[SouthernX]

Criminal that this is being dealt with via leaks to the media. I was so excited for the coaching line up this year with Harris, Stiles, Taylor, Sampson & Parling. Really feel for them now, what a shit sandwich.

actually think it’s a great coaching staff/front office considering the circumstances.

Will be interesting if they can get the boys to drown out the unwarranted noise, work hard during the week and have them prepped and firing come the weekend.

winning won’t solve everything but it will help with positive momentum.

 

[KevinO]

Well before the shit hit the fan last week, I was talked to someone who's been involved with the Rebels for over 5 years now and asked him about it. Was literally Thursday morning, his comment was it's all the same BS. The whole time his been involved in the club they had been in debt and it was being leaked from RA to lower the price that centralizing the Rebels would cost them. They also mentioned it was a lot worse at the start of Covid, when the club had to tell players they can't afford to pay them there contracts, and negotiate what payments players were receiving.

 

[Yoda]

Surely they just hand the rebels some of the cash from the Vic government for the World Cup Final

Or …. Boom tish…… The Melbourne Brumbies form! Reduce a team…. Keep one in the sporting capital of Australia and solve the money issue of two struggling franchises…. Pick the best players … the rest go either overseas or back to club footy?