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Matt Burke's article in the SMH on the Waratahs

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Have you read Matt Burke's article in today's Sydney Morning Herald?
Have a read of some of the readers responses to his article...priceless!
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/to-the-booing-fans-have-you-played-at-super-rugby-level-20110324-1c8k2.html?comments=20#comments

Seems the consenus is you pay the money you can do what you want. Nobody likes their team losing but fans want to see real effort and if beaten by a better team on the day,fans will accept (grudgingly) that result
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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How different the world is now readers can speak back to you. Maybe the cognoscenti bubble has burst?

(do I get any points for cognoscenti?)
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Seems the consenus is you pay the money you can do what you want. Nobody likes their team losing but fans want to see real effort and if beaten by a better team on the day,fans will accept (grudgingly) that result

To me it isn't about losing, it is how you lose.

I can cope with being beaten by a better side when your side is trying their guts out, and is simply just outplayed.

But when a side drops it's proverbial head, stops playing as a team and turns into rabble, they deserve what they get from the crowd
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
I wrote natty a personal letter back last night,

This morning he sent me an email asking if I had ever written an article for a newspaper, and explaining that even though I may pay for it, it doesn't give me the right to demand the content I want as I wasn't there for the struggles or planning that went into it.

Fair call
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Hey Fatprop,

Seriously mate, where do you get your Avatar's? That is another classic.

The internet is full of fools who allow themselves to be photographed at the wrong time and their "mates" who choose to tell the world.

This one was from

http://www.evilmilk.com/

I am just glad that I grew up before the digital camera made documenting stupidity at parties so easy
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
Just read the article and have to say that I agree with most of Burke's sentiments. It wasn't that the players weren't trying. They turned up with the wrong attitude and went to water when things didn't go to script. Poor form I know but I can't stand it when crowds boo. They should have applauded the Cheetah's efforts instead. Tah's supporters seem to be very fickle.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
Geez, someone needs to get Burke a PR guy ASAP. First the team pisses off supporters by putting in a really poor effort. At least a close game vs the Cheetahs they probably wouldn't have been booed, but 23 - 3 is well beaten. Then Burke steps up and attacks the fans who paid for that shit performance. Hey Matt, how does your salary end up getting paid if you drive off all of your own fans?

The line "you can comment when you have played at the level" is full of hubris. The paying fans and supporters are the heart of the game, not former stars like Burke. I know Burke loves the Tahs and would've been just as hurt by their woeful performance, but someone needs to tell him to pull his head out of his arse. If the Tahs played like absolute shit, and you paid to be there on a crap night to boot, why not show your displeasure to the team? I know I was suffering just watching the bloody thing on TV.

Bleh.
 
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
I wrote natty a personal letter back last night,

This morning he sent me an email asking if I had ever written an article for a newspaper, and explaining that even though I may pay for it, it doesn't give me the right to demand the content I want as I wasn't there for the struggles or planning that went into it.

Fair call

Fair call? All right, to extend the analogy, if Matty (or natty) had written an article that equated to the Tahs game, he would have made a couple of brilliant points in his first paragraph, and then lapsed into 1500 words of rambling about nothing in particular. The fact that he might have wanted to produce an excellent article doesn't mean I accept the end product.

I don't boo the article - I'm just not likely to read the next one.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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I wrote natty a personal letter back last night,

This morning he sent me an email asking if I had ever written an article for a newspaper, and explaining that even though I may pay for it, it doesn't give me the right to demand the content I want as I wasn't there for the struggles or planning that went into it.

Fair call

bullocks
 

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Fred Wood (13)
Burke really painted himself as a very arrogant/dickheaded man.

Which is a pity because he is by any measure, a genuinely humble and decent bloke. Interestingly he has a little bit of form in this department though. I remember reading his book and he sounded a little bitter, but I put that down to writing it too close to his forced departure from the tahs
 

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Jimmy Flynn (14)
One of the better comments in response to the Matt Burke article:

"I'm a life member of the Waratahs. I pay dearly but gladly for the privilege. I have turned up to preseason games, paid huge sums for a beer, sat for hours in parking lots, donned blue jerseys to show my support for a team that I once watched demolish Wales from the banks of Concord. Therefore I feel that I have invested enough materially and psychologically to have an opinion and it is that the booing last week points to something far more disturbing than a one-off hiccup against the Cheetahs. It was a manifestation of the frustration that fans feel as a result of the total disdain that NSWRU has for its fan base. It's beyond the price gouging, the free-to-air lockout (oh sorry, forgot about the primetime highlights package at 12am), the perennial disappointment at the performances etc. It's the fact that the NSWRU have taken a team that once played with passion for their state, slapped a brand on it, charged like bulls for the privilege of watching them and called it a business model. I revere those who play at the Super level, the toughest rugby competition in the world, but I deplore those who oversee them. My 'boos' last week were at them and I will argue against any person who says I was wrong to do so."

Matt you noted that we should have given them the silent treatment. Well I have marvelled on more than one occasion at the silence that permeates the stadiums during Waratahs' games. I've heard more noise from crowds at a Hyde Park chess games. Ironically last week's booing was the most passionate outburst I have ever heard from the fans in a long time.

Posted by Life Member Sydney - March 25, 2011
 

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
One of the better comments in response to the Matt Burke article:

"I'm a life member of the Waratahs. I pay dearly but gladly for the privilege. I have turned up to preseason games, paid huge sums for a beer, sat for hours in parking lots, donned blue jerseys to show my support for a team that I once watched demolish Wales from the banks of Concord. Therefore I feel that I have invested enough materially and psychologically to have an opinion and it is that the booing last week points to something far more disturbing than a one-off hiccup against the Cheetahs. It was a manifestation of the frustration that fans feel as a result of the total disdain that NSWRU has for its fan base. It's beyond the price gouging, the free-to-air lockout (oh sorry, forgot about the primetime highlights package at 12am), the perennial disappointment at the performances etc. It's the fact that the NSWRU have taken a team that once played with passion for their state, slapped a brand on it, charged like bulls for the privilege of watching them and called it a business model. I revere those who play at the Super level, the toughest rugby competition in the world, but I deplore those who oversee them. My 'boos' last week were at them and I will argue against any person who says I was wrong to do so."

Matt you noted that we should have given them the silent treatment. Well I have marvelled on more than one occasion at the silence that permeates the stadiums during Waratahs' games. I've heard more noise from crowds at a Hyde Park chess games. Ironically last week's booing was the most passionate outburst I have ever heard from the fans in a long time.

Posted by Life Member Sydney - March 25, 2011

Waratahs' fans are certainly a miserable bunch.
 
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