Kurtley Beale

[Mainlander]

Not wanted for the Wannabes last year with Quade Cooper preferred on the EOYT.

Now dropped from the Tahs were not only is Daniel Halangahu preferred but he seems to have arrested the form slide that had beset them.

OK he was on the bench but correct me If I'm wrong but I don't believe he got on the field on the weekend. If he did I didn't notice it and he certainly didn't make his presence felt.

I have always felt that when Deans was in charge of the Sadders (That's Mr Crusaders sir. to you Nick) he targeted Beale who conveniently cracked and that was partially why he wasn't interested in him as a Wannabe and that original knowledge is now known by all the NZ teams and thus he's becoming more a liability than an asset.

Halangahu played pretty well on the weekend and Cooper wasn't to bad despite the hammering the Tribe gave the reds, a couple of times he almost broke the Tribes line with that side step of his.

Bit young to already be on the scrap heap but I've always had a feeling with Beale that he has to many people telling him what to do, maybe another reason Dean's isn't keen.

 

[Pfitzy]

not only is Daniel Halangahu preferred but he seems to have arrested the form slide that had beset them.

Don't know if I'd go that far Mussy - one swallow does not a porn film make. Let's see how Hangers goes over the next month to see if he has contributed to an improvement, or whether the Blues were just utterly clueless on Friday past hmm? At NSW we have a proud history of putting new flyhalves in for spectacular results before the opposition realises they're just some other guy with different flaws and shuts us down. Don't count your chickens!

You're right about one things though - Beale didn't get on the park and there is a lot of expectation on his shoulders. He's only young so hopefully he (and his coaching staff - whomever that may be) will persist with him and tell him to forget all the shit and just play his game. You'd think with the experience of playing behind an Aussie schoolboys pack he'd be used to pressure but maybe not on the bigger stage.

I have always felt that when Deans was in charge of the Sadders (That's Mr Crusaders sir. to you Nick)

Calling it like I see it Mussy 8)

he targeted Beale who conveniently cracked and that was partially why he wasn't interested in him as a Wannabe and that original knowledge is now known by all the NZ teams and thus he's becoming more a liability than an asset.

Conversely, in the final last year we weren't doing too badly until Beale left the field whereupon our structure evaporated.

Quick reminder: this is the bit where any Offsaders fans (or Kiwis in general) spout shit about the pair of streaky tries Turner scored blah blah blah. Of course if Carter had kicked crossfield to Ralph/FAB would be considered unbelievable genius. In any case, the point stands - we were in the game until Beale got crocked, then we weren't.

Further - ALL our backs have been pretty ordinary this year with the odd glimmer of hope

 

[Ash]

Ooooh, let me go dig up an old thread and have a bit of a giggle at Beale and you crazy Tah lovers.

 

[fatprop]

Ooooh, let me go dig up an old thread and have a bit of a giggle at Beale and you crazy Tah lovers.

What was it, 50-26 on the weekend?

Let me dig up a few old threads .................................................... to giggle at Red lovers

 

[Ash]

Ooooh, let me go dig up an old thread and have a bit of a giggle at Beale and you crazy Tah lovers.

What was it, 50-26 on the weekend?

Let me dig up a few old threads .................................................... to giggle at Red lovers

Meh, par for the course after the last few years of disappoint for us Reds fans.

Now...back to Beale!

 

[Pfitzy]

Sorry can we please get back to bashing the Kiwi?

 

[Biffo]

Not wanted for the Wannabes last year with Quade Cooper preferred on the EOYT.

Not true. Beale was not considered for the EOYT because of injury.

Your house has thin, glass and very clear walls when Donald is all you've got.

 

[Mainlander]

Not wanted for the Wannabes last year with Quade Cooper preferred on the EOYT.

Not true. Beale was not considered for the EOYT because of injury.

Your house has thin, glass and very clear walls when Donald is all you've got.

He's there just to keep the position warm for Carter and MacAlister.

Oh Nick loved the way both the Tahs and Reds regarded last feet as the oppositions last feet on the weekend, ether Ref couldn't see an offside if it was infront of them unless of coarse they thought that just maybe one of the Kiwis was a mm forward.

 

[Pfitzy]

Karma catches up with you Mussy. It never seems to catch up with Richie McCaw... well until he gets yellow-carded in a black jersey and every Kiwi on the planet starts screaming to the heavens that the ref is biased. Unless of course the jersey also has red on it AND he's playing against another Kiwi team in which case the fans of the opposing side will claim he deserved it. Grudgingly.

 

[Mainlander]

You have it wrong Nick and generally show your total lack of understanding when it comes to loose forward play.

Next time watch McGod.... In the first couple of minutes he will something borderline but normally away from the ball. If the ref pings him he knows he's going to be watched all game like a hawk and will from that point on tease the ref as to wether he's going to do an infringement or not. Mean while the refs watching Richie, others are doing sneaky and illegal things knowing the refs not watching them. Rodders is very good at exploiting this.

 

[Pfitzy]

Doesn't stop the screaming when he gets yellow-carded Mussy. Especially in that game against the Welsh a couple of years ago when the whole of TSF wanted to murder the ref for daring to send him for a rest just for a blatant professional foul :lmao:

 

[Biffo]

Oh Nick loved the way both the Tahs and Reds regarded last feet as the oppositions last feet on the weekend, ether Ref couldn't see an offside if it was infront of them unless of coarse they thought that just maybe one of the Kiwis was a mm forward.

You blaming Kurtley Beale (never on the park) for imagined refereeing deficiencies which you say cost the Blues their rigthful win?

 

[Mainlander]

Oh Nick loved the way both the Tahs and Reds regarded last feet as the oppositions last feet on the weekend, ether Ref couldn't see an offside if it was infront of them unless of coarse they thought that just maybe one of the Kiwis was a mm forward.

You blaming Kurtley Beale (never on the park) for imagined refereeing deficiencies which you say cost the Blues their rigthful win?

No... off topic discussion with one eyed Nick. He makes even Cantabs seem unbiased creatures that we are.

Never said the Orcs were robbed, clueless certainly. I'd never cry over an Orc loss disserved or not.

However as both a loyal Queenslander and Canberian I also feel a warm glow when the Tahs get done as well.

 

[Biffo]

Oh Nick loved the way both the Tahs and Reds regarded last feet as the oppositions last feet on the weekend, ether Ref couldn't see an offside if it was infront of them unless of coarse they thought that just maybe one of the Kiwis was a mm forward.

You blaming Kurtley Beale (never on the park) for imagined refereeing deficiencies which you say cost the Blues their rigthful win?

No... off topic discussion with one eyed Nick. He makes even Cantabs seem unbiased creatures that we are.

Never said the Orcs were robbed, clueless certainly. I'd never cry over an Orc loss disserved or not.

However as both a loyal Queenslander and Canberian I also feel a warm glow when the Tahs get done as well.

So, pretty cold most of the time.

 

[Pfitzy]

He makes even Cantabs seem unbiased creatures that we are.

Delusional you mean And both my eyes are blue

 

[Lindommer]

However as both a loyal Queenslander and Canberian I also feel a warm glow when the Tahs get done as well.

After last weekend you have the deepest and most sincere sympathy from all of us here in Tahland. :'( :'( :'(

 

[naza]

Spiro reckons Beale should play inside centre. http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/...tside-halangahu/2009/03/30/1238261514188.html

I'd like to see the Waratahs try the New Zealand system and play Halangahu and Beale as the five-eighths pairing. Having three playmakers should give NSW greater try-scoring potential - six sides have scored more points than the Waratahs this season.

And you guys think I'm crazy ! I've never understood the armchair selector hobby many Aussie rugby supporters have.

 

[Scarfman]

10. Hangers 12. Beale is close to the stupidest selection idea I've ever heard. Mind you, I've been wrong about a few things this season.

But the bloke is paid to write stuff in the paper and you are silly enough to read it. I only read the opinions coming from here. At worst, they're equally uninformed.

Would anyone here prefer a coaching staff of Growden and Zavos over fatprop and Noddy? Not me.

 

[Ash]

If you were going to do something silly like that, at least go Hangers at 12 and Beale at 10, with Hangers rotating into 10 in a similar method to what Barnes does at the Reds.

<edit> WTF? Can't agree with this. Don't think that players like Larkham and Carter underplayed their hand, and Spencer definitely didn't.

What is common with both the Markotter and the New Zealand systems is that they work best with a first five-eighth who tends to underplay his hand and act as a co-ordinator. This is Halangahu's game, but it is not Beale's.

If that was true, then EVERY 5/8 in history would underplay his hand. Hmmm.

 

[Scotty]

10. Hangers 12. Beale is close to the stupidest selection idea I've ever heard. Mind you, I've been wrong about a few things this season.

Having Beale at 12 would certainly create a lot of try scoring opportunities.





Unfortunately not for the tahs though......