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Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Yep Mr Timms, but look at first page of this site and tell me the anti AB thing isn't here too.
What? The tshirts of the Wallaby rooting the Kiwi?
At least that implies you're getting some.
At least that implies you're getting some.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Couldn't agree more Richo, even this thread was started with Gav asking anyone who has copped abuse to come in here, and then says he talked to someone who talked to someone who was hit for wearing Irish jersey. Pity we not talking about rugby.
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Army_Gav
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What a dickhead. Must of been a Collingwood supporter.
I watched the RWC 2003 mainly in Melbourne, so it was interesting in that the people I often went to the pub to watch with were not rugby supporters. Went to a few games. Aus - Ireland (topical) and we had a great time going hammer and tongs with Irish fans, but all a big laugh really. Wore my Wallabies jersey to NZ - SA and most fans from both sides just wanted to know who I was backing. All good natured. Watched the Aus v NZ semi in a pub, bunch of Kiwis in front, one of who absolutely went feral on me when I cheered loudly after Mortlock scored. My Melbourne mates were gobsmacked at the abuse. Watched the final in a pub with about 90% Aus fans, the rest English, including a good mate. Great atmosphere, everyone sharing beers after the game, no aggro at all.
Conclusion - mostly it was great with 1 dickhead. I think people remember the dickheads more clearly, and a small number can spoil anything. I think most true rugby fans are not like this. Probably overblown, the whole thing.
Conclusion - mostly it was great with 1 dickhead. I think people remember the dickheads more clearly, and a small number can spoil anything. I think most true rugby fans are not like this. Probably overblown, the whole thing.
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Army_Gav
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They weren't someone, they were my mates.
I should add I was really blown away by the hospitality I experienced in NZ over the weekend. Had a nice chat to a Kiwi/Tongan & a Samoan/Kiwi when out for lunch.
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Dick Tooth (41)
you get feral kiwis, you get feral aussies, you get feral poms....there's a few in every country.
By and large they are the vast minority of minorities and from everything I have heard before this article and from friends over there, the whole tournament and the hospitality have been absolutely first rate.
sensationalist journalism and pointless.
very mungo - trying to create a conflict where there isn't one.
By and large they are the vast minority of minorities and from everything I have heard before this article and from friends over there, the whole tournament and the hospitality have been absolutely first rate.
sensationalist journalism and pointless.
very mungo - trying to create a conflict where there isn't one.
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Utility Back
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^^ I might suggest because if it is for any reason occurring to regularly it needs to be addressed with better police or security presence.
NZ is a lovely country hosting a great tournament, so it would be a shame for the occasion were to be tainted because of a minority of dick heads.
NZ is a lovely country hosting a great tournament, so it would be a shame for the occasion were to be tainted because of a minority of dick heads.
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Tony Shaw (54)
Apparently there is serious abuse building up on the Wallabies' Facebook page (and the moderators there 'pleading for it to stop' - they need to employ Scarfie down there, he'd soon fix it good and proper), and we can all enjoy Steve Hansen's 'caring and sharing' approach to it all:
http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-world-cup/hansen-shrugs-off-wallabies-abuse-4413779
http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-world-cup/hansen-shrugs-off-wallabies-abuse-4413779
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Well, yes, G&GR is firstly a Australian rugby website. I don't think anyone would expect it to be anything but pro Wallaby, and anti (to a reasonable point) all of our opponents.
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Greg Davis (50)
I find it a stupid response to say this is bad journalism and the reason it's come up is crap.
I witnessed it, I know other people that witnessed it, the people quoted in the article witnessed it.
There is an underlying current of hatred, I can tell you that as I witnessed it, I'm angry about it and I find it stupid and beyond acceptable.
I have witnessed dickheads and I don't accept there behavior whether it be from someone from my own country or someone else's.
The incidents I witnessed where not an individual but groups and collectives that not only found these actions funny, acceptable and needed but joined in or fired up if someone tried to stop them.
To call it a minority is one thing, but to sweep it under a rug and ignore it's happening is to condone it. If itisnt acceptable to the greater majority of NZs then they should be the first stepping in to calm there fellow countrymen down and point out the stupidity and shame associated with the behavior on display.
If it's acceptable for the incidents I saw, then in four years time, will it be more acceptable, does it escalate, do we end up with old school soccer riots where your not just required to cheer your team but land a couple of blows as well. That's not a port I want to follow, nor do I want future generations. The smart thing is to talk about it without causing histerior and then deal with it right now so it doesn't happen again, not to shrug the shoulders, say it's others fault and leave those involved to feel like there heroes.
I witnessed it, I know other people that witnessed it, the people quoted in the article witnessed it.
There is an underlying current of hatred, I can tell you that as I witnessed it, I'm angry about it and I find it stupid and beyond acceptable.
I have witnessed dickheads and I don't accept there behavior whether it be from someone from my own country or someone else's.
The incidents I witnessed where not an individual but groups and collectives that not only found these actions funny, acceptable and needed but joined in or fired up if someone tried to stop them.
To call it a minority is one thing, but to sweep it under a rug and ignore it's happening is to condone it. If itisnt acceptable to the greater majority of NZs then they should be the first stepping in to calm there fellow countrymen down and point out the stupidity and shame associated with the behavior on display.
If it's acceptable for the incidents I saw, then in four years time, will it be more acceptable, does it escalate, do we end up with old school soccer riots where your not just required to cheer your team but land a couple of blows as well. That's not a port I want to follow, nor do I want future generations. The smart thing is to talk about it without causing histerior and then deal with it right now so it doesn't happen again, not to shrug the shoulders, say it's others fault and leave those involved to feel like there heroes.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
^^ That rant was border-line hysterical
I agree with the sentiment though.
Just read it in a calm voice, cos that's how I wrote it.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
LOL....now I'm trying to read it in different 'voices' sad, angry, calm, whining, happy.....it's pretty funny
I enjoyed it most when I read it in a Borat voice.
Most things are better in a Borat voice.
Most things are better in a Borat voice.
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