Kearney's shoulder charge on Elsom

[Pfitzy]

Oh wow! You baited him!

No wait! Its the counter-bait! Followed by the counter-counter-bait!

In any case, it was a shoulder charge. Cards have been given for less... in the same game even. But Kaplan was at the wrong angle for both incidents so let's just move on hmmm? Kearney's wasn't worth a citing, just a rucking

 

[Biffo]

Oh wow! You baited him!

No wait! Its the counter-bait! Followed by the counter-counter-bait!

In any case, it was a shoulder charge. Cards have been given for less... in the same game even. But Kaplan was at the wrong angle for both incidents so let's just move on hmmm? Kearney's wasn't worth a citing, just a rucking

:lmao: No trouble remembering such a game.

Nah, it's not bait and counter-bait and ... . It's bait, taken, landed, buttered and in the pan. The fish, still live, spins and spins and spins. Left, right, up, down, back, forward he spins. The heat is rising and the fish is about to be dinner.

 

[Thomond78]

Oh wow! You baited him!

No wait! Its the counter-bait! Followed by the counter-counter-bait!

In any case, it was a shoulder charge. Cards have been given for less... in the same game even. But Kaplan was at the wrong angle for both incidents so let's just move on hmmm? Kearney's wasn't worth a citing, just a rucking

Era, it wouldn't be the first time our Spook proclaimed someone else's hook as a specimen fish he'd reeled in. We wouldn't change him.

On the tackle - agreed.

 

[Pfitzy]

As for why he laid a GAA move on - poor lad was probably still concussed from Palu's hit earlier in the game

 

[Spook]

Oh wow! You baited him!

No wait! Its the counter-bait! Followed by the counter-counter-bait!

In any case, it was a shoulder charge. Cards have been given for less... in the same game even. But Kaplan was at the wrong angle for both incidents so let's just move on hmmm? Kearney's wasn't worth a citing, just a rucking

Era, it wouldn't be the first time our Spook proclaimed someone else's hook as a specimen fish he'd reeled in. We wouldn't change him.

On the tackle - agreed.

:lmao: Now that is simpy not true or you would have given us EVIDENCE surely. You are hurting and embarrassed and thus you lie through your teeth. It's akin to the ELVS killed someone nonsense all over again. :

 

[Thomond78]

Oh wow! You baited him!

No wait! Its the counter-bait! Followed by the counter-counter-bait!

In any case, it was a shoulder charge. Cards have been given for less... in the same game even. But Kaplan was at the wrong angle for both incidents so let's just move on hmmm? Kearney's wasn't worth a citing, just a rucking

Era, it wouldn't be the first time our Spook proclaimed someone else's hook as a specimen fish he'd reeled in. We wouldn't change him.

On the tackle - agreed.

:lmao: Now that is simpy not true or you would have given us EVIDENCE surely. You are hurting and embarrassed and thus you lie through your teeth. It's akin to the ELVS killed someone nonsense all over again. :

Spook; stop acting like a three year old and grow up.

 

[Spook]

Poor Thomo, you were trying to be a bully boy initially and it bit you in the ass.

 

[Blue]

Actually just had the replay on the box here in the office.

It' s simple fact that the ref cost the Wallabies this game.

They should not have played with 14 and should have had 10 mins against 14 Irishmen.

Seems to me that the only way the Irish are able to really compete against SH teams is with the help of the ref, ala John Smit confirming he is going to have a chat to his players and the ref blowing time on with the Boks' backs turned. At least it did not allow them to steal this game like they did that one against the Boks.

Oh and the other observation is that BOD is a great player. Pity he seems to behave like a fluffybunny off the field. He doesn't need to.

 

[PaarlBok]

Oh and the other observation is that BOD is a great player. Pity he seems to behave like a fluffybunny off the field. He doesn't need to.

In the past I love this guy but for some reason after the BIL I lost my respect for the guy.

Reading this even more now

Smit believes it was a senior Irish player who was against the post-match beers and points out that the Aussies, the All Blacks and all of the Sharks’ Super 14 rivals accepted invitations for the post-game get-togethers. “We played six games in the TriNations, we tried to beat the living daylights out of each other on the pitch but there wasn’t the constant chirping and niggle. And not one incident. Afterwards we had beers together and it created the spirit that I’d been initiated in through Jason Leonard.”

Have to be him.

 

[Pfitzy]

Could have been O'Connell. But then, locks aren't known for turning down beer. BOD is a back and therefore concerned with his hair.

 

[Lindommer]

Watched a replay tonight. Two things:

• After Kearney's "shoulder charge' on Elsom he lifted his left hand (the leading side) from his waist to push Rocky away. MMmmm? Pretty damning evidence.
• During the match, real-time, I wondered why the dominant Australian scrum momentarily stopped rogering the Irish at the final scrum, as they'd done for most of the evening. So tonight I had a good Captain's in slo-slo-mo: the bloody Irish THP went down and stopped Robinson's forward progress which left clean ball for the Irish 8 to pick up. Penalty.

On balance we should've been more than seven points in front at that final scrum. But Kaplan didn't do us any favours.

 

[Thomond78]

Poor Thomo, you were trying to be a bully boy initially and it bit you in the ass.

Says it all, really, doesn't it?

And I'm sure your dad is bigger than my dad, too.

Now, run along and play; the grown-ups are talking.

 

[Thomond78]

Oh and the other observation is that BOD is a great player. Pity he seems to behave like a fluffybunny off the field. He doesn't need to.

In the past I love this guy but for some reason after the BIL I lost my respect for the guy.

Reading this even more now

Smit believes it was a senior Irish player who was against the post-match beers and points out that the Aussies, the All Blacks and all of the Sharks’ Super 14 rivals accepted invitations for the post-game get-togethers. “We played six games in the TriNations, we tried to beat the living daylights out of each other on the pitch but there wasn’t the constant chirping and niggle. And not one incident. Afterwards we had beers together and it created the spirit that I’d been initiated in through Jason Leonard.”

Have to be him.

I've spoken to one of the Irish guys on that tour since. Nothing mentioned about it. Mongo's own national coaches couldn't stop him going out for beer during it; you think he'd have listened to anyone else?

I have considerable doubts about this one, I have to say.

 

[Thomond78]

As for why he laid a GAA move on - poor lad was probably still concussed from Palu's hit earlier in the game

With thanks to scrum.com and Getty Images.

http://www.scrum.com/australiatour/rugby/image/105791.html

Arms, but high. Six inches lower, next time, Wyclif, and it'd be perfect. Now, that's that done. Next on the agenda?

 

[Gagger]

Dear Iraqi minister for information,

Unless Kearney has perfected the art of running while leaning back at 45% like a limbo dancer, then this photo is quite clearly taken on his way down to the ground, which is why his head is under Palu's arm.

I'm no physician, but I believe the piece of anatomy above the shoulder line is the neck. If Palu had caught Kearney around the neck, then it would have been very clear, and Kearney wouldn't have bounced back like he did.

But Palu didn't, he hit Kearney across the top of the chest (a part of the anatomy in line with the shoulders), with arms (as you now admit).

Kaplan didn't think it was high - he clearly and wrongly pinged Palu for no arms

Les Kiss, Ireland's defence coach didn't think it was high or dangerous

Rob Kearney, the guy a bit closer to it than you or I didn't think it was high or dangerous, just good.

You seem the odd one out.

 

[Cutter]

The odd one out Thomo and damaging your credibility.

As an aside, if you and Spook want to engage in name calling, PM each other so we don't have to read it will you.

 

[Thomond78]

The odd one out Thomo and damaging your credibility.

As an aside, if you and Spook want to engage in name calling, PM each other so we don't have to read it will you.

God knows, I've bloody tried to get that message across, but it's not working!

 

[Thomond78]

Dear Iraqi minister for information,

Unless Kearney has perfected the art of running leaning back at 45%, then this photo is quite clearly taken on his way down to the ground, which is why his head is under Palu's arm.

I'm no physician, but I believe the piece of anatomy above the shoulder line is the neck. If Palu had caught Kearney around the neck, then it would have been very clear, and Kearney wouldn't have bounced back like he did.

Gagger, what else is above the shoulders? Usually sits on top of the neck? Is what Palu's left hand is in contact with in that photo...?

But Palu didn't, he hit Kearney across the top of the chest (a part of the anatomy in line with the shoulders), with arms (as you now admit).

No. I don't say that. He hit him on the chest with his shoulder, not with his arms. He did try to use the arms, but didn't hit him below the line of the shoulders with his left arm. His left arm made contact above the line of the the shoulders; which is a high tackle.

Kaplan didn't think it was high - he clearly and wrongly pinged Palu for no arms

Not an issue; he was wrong in the no arms, but the tackle was high.

Les Kiss, Ireland's defence coach didn't think it was high or dangerous

Downloading the interview at the moment, will get back to it.

Rob Kearney, the guy a bit closer to it than you or I didn't think it was high or dangerous, just good.

What he actually said was: "It was probably an unfair yellow card on him but it came our way which is good. "

Note; harsh card (which I'd have no great beef with); but he did not say that it wasn't high or dangerous.

 

[Spook]

Poor Thomo, you were trying to be a bully boy initially and it bit you in the ass.

Says it all, really, doesn't it?

And I'm sure your dad is bigger than my dad, too.

Now, run along and play; the grown-ups are talking.

Absolute classic revisionism. :lmao:

 

[Spook]

As an aside, if you and Spook want to engage in name calling, PM each other so we don't have to read it will you.

OK Cutts. I will say no more in this thread.