Karmichael Hunt Stuff

[emuarse]

Final verdict from the ARU, Karmichael fined $10k and banned for four games(backdated).

To put it into perspective, Karmichael has earned in vicinity of $200k from the ARU/QRU since his indiscretion in December, and he is now been fined just $10k and welcomed back to work on Monday, thats the equivalent of 5 days earnings for Karmichael.

If thats the punishment then so be it, but it is weak as piss if you ask me. Enjoy playing in the Premier Grade Karmichael, I hope the QRU make you play every single game possible, you can now earn your money raising the profile of whatever QPR club accommodates you.

Try to remember that he was not found guilty of any drug charge other than carrying just one of his wife's pills for which he didn't have a prescription (the charge), and he didn't report in at the required time for a fingerprint take.
Talk about histronics in social media, we have it right here sadly.
Thorn will make the decision as to whether he plays for the Reds, or not. End of story

 

[TOCC]

Try to remember that he was not found guilty of any drug charge other than carrying just one of his wife's pills for which he didn't have a prescription (the charge), and he didn't report in at the required time for a fingerprint take.
Talk about histronics in social media, we have it right here sadly.
Thorn will make the decision as to whether he plays for the Reds, or not. End of story

If it were his first time been associated with drugs, but sadly it’s not...

 

[Rugbynutter39]

but his 'value' is subjective..



-His marketing value is gone, sponsors won't pay to be aligned to him.

-His 'leadership and cultural value' is also gone, and its up to Thorn to determine whether he wants that around a group of young easily influenced players.

-His 'playing value' is all that he retains.

Yes but irony is if starts playing again and does well you would be surprised how quickly this latest drama will fade. The question of course is whether they choose to play him for the Reds in view of current sponsor/fans positions.

If media reports correct on sponsor uproar and risk of losing sponsors then he definitely won't play again for the Reds again and surely would not waste what is left of his career playing out his contract in grade.

Personally I would rather they just play him...but that is just me and I understand if sponsors not on board then that is not likely feasible.

 

[p.Tah]

^^ so Reds sponsors are apparently in uproar about Hunt, but Bronco sponsors are fine with Hodge. Go figure.

 

[Sully]

^^ so Reds sponsors are apparently in uproar about Hunt, but Bronco sponsors are fine with Hodge. Go figure.

I haven't heard that anywhere but this forum.

 

[half]

Any sponsor who jumps ship because K Hunt is selected IMO was looking to get out and this gave them an excuse. They would have left anyway.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

^^ so Reds sponsors are apparently in uproar about Hunt, but Bronco sponsors are fine with Hodge. Go figure.

I guess that is why I prefer they play KHunt....as compared to what Lodge done I do view on different scale personally....ok sort of second offence you say - but he was cleared by the courts was he not....just let him play and lets all move on I reckon....

 

[mst]

^^ so Reds sponsors are apparently in uproar about Hunt, but Bronco sponsors are fine with Hodge. Go figure.

Are they? These two sponsors don't seem too happy.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/0d5b19f0083d826f305ebfb40059c5e8

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-19/matt-lodge-behaviour-concerns-broncos-sponsors/9562056

 

[p.Tah]

Are they? These two sponsors don't seem too happy.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/0d5b19f0083d826f305ebfb40059c5e8

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-19/matt-lodge-behaviour-concerns-broncos-sponsors/9562056

True but that’s only after months of pressure from the public.

 

[mst]

It then begs the question if the Reds could be the point of difference in that market place and act without the external pressures. The sponsors like the public like to align with good roles models.

 

[dru]

but his 'value' is subjective..

-His marketing value is gone, sponsors won't pay to be aligned to him.
-His 'leadership and cultural value' is also gone, and its up to Thorn to determine whether he wants that around a group of young easily influenced players.
-His 'playing value' is all that he retains.

Yeah sure. "His 'playing value' is all that he retains." Let's be clear, his perceived value to the Reds is in him playing, his other values are de-rated. On a pure objectrive attempt to minimise the commercial loss, what is the Reds next logical step?

And that step should be hindered by nothing other than the HC.

 

[redstragic]

Marto was talking about him on the radio this morning and said many at the Reds (didn't name anyone) want him nowhere near the team. The players we have are pulling together and doing the job without him. They do not want to muck with the chemistry and vibe going on in the team.

 

[Wilson]

Apparently no one at the reds or norths has even heard from him yet:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/rugby/...s/news-story/789604ded294b1fc06ae770ffc38406c

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[Beer Baron]

It then begs the question if the Reds could be the point of difference in that market place and act without the external pressures. The sponsors like the public like to align with good roles models.

As per Half's comment above, make no mistake sponsors are not acting out of any moral stand. They want to align themselves with success because success = greater coverage. It'slike the myth that CBA didn't back Adani due to some Moral/Green stance.

 

[TOCC]

Yeah sure. "His 'playing value' is all that he retains." Let's be clear, his perceived value to the Reds is in him playing, his other values are de-rated. On a pure objectrive attempt to minimise the commercial loss, what is the Reds next logical step?

And that step should be hindered by nothing other than the HC.

Very few clubs can extract the best “playing value” out of a player without the right cultural foundations in place. That’s what the next assessment will be, what’s his ‘cultural and leadership value’ is he a negative influence on a young and receptive playing group. It’s a key factor especially for someone like Thorn who hasn’t he being afraid to show his hand in dealing with players who he deems a negative influence on the team.

 

[The Honey Badger]

^^ so Reds sponsors are apparently in uproar about Hunt, but Bronco sponsors are fine with Hodge. Go figure.

It seems to me that Thorne doesn't give a shit about what anyone else thinks. I am pretty sure sponsors and fans included.

I would think RA were opening the door and want him to play.

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[Zero_Cool]

^^ so Reds sponsors are apparently in uproar about Hunt, but Bronco sponsors are fine with Hodge. Go figure.

Not sure about this or not, I don't follow the Broncos closely enough to have any idea, but this got me thinking... What about Hunt making a move back to League (assuming the Reds don't want him)?

Not sure what the ARU's contract says but is it possible he is Wallabies eligible and playing Rugby League? (I suspect not, but I ask it for the LOL's factor.)

Would the Broncos even want / have a use for someone like Hunt? Surely he's a bit of a legend at the Broncos still?

 

[Dan54]

Marto was talking about him on the radio this morning and said many at the Reds (didn't name anyone) want him nowhere near the team. The players we have are pulling together and doing the job without him. They do not want to muck with the chemistry and vibe going on in the team.

Heard that too Redstragic, but it being Marto I find it hard to believe him as he is known to stretch the truth. He also went on to say that QRU who were broke etc were still paying him half a mill a year, but would continue do to so and not let him play, when in truth we know that ARU are paying a lot of that money. I know the ARU probably couldn't dump him because he actually hasn't done enough legally, and I wondered if they though by trying to put it behind them etc, they may make it easier for him to get overseas contract, and off their books?

 

[USARugger]

If there isn't a line in K Hunt's contract somewhere that reads close to: ""if Player has engaged in personal conduct reasonably judged by Club to adversely affect or reflect on Club, then Club may terminate this contract."

I'd be pretty surprised.

 

[Tangawizi]

Would the Broncos even want / have a use for someone like Hunt? Surely he's a bit of a legend at the Broncos still?

They have a need for a decent 6 which is a spot K could play but it's very unlikely they've got a spare $500-$600k in their salary cap.


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