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Karmichael Hunt charged with cocaine supply.

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Michael Lynagh (62)
What has to happen, at the very least, is that he's stood down until he's found guilty, then sacked.

These sorts of charges wouldn't be happening if the police didn't have a lot of evidence. This is not a "he said / she said" thing at all.

The guy is gone, we need to move on. He's an idiot and deserves what he gets, which is possible jail time.

For the Reds, it's tragic. Such a great signing it seemed at the time, it's all gone pear shaped now. What I worry about is if there will be collateral damage inside the team.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Some of these mungos are like a cancer in our game, and they make it really difficult to embrace the vast majority of the normal chaps who manage to successfully cross codes.

Most of the former dark siders are actually good folk.

Unfortunately all it takes is acts like these to undo all the good, tarnish all former mungos, and reinforce existing prejudices.
 
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Bobby Sands

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Mathew Stokes was charged with trafficking and possessing cocaine a few years ago. He pleaded guilty, the trafficking charges were dropped and he was placed on a 12-month good behaviour bond.

The whole situation is terrible, but not without precedent. I hope he is not lost to the game.
 

domo

Stan Wickham (3)
Not knowing anything about the specifics, one would assume the police got hold of several mobile phones (surprisingly easy now thanks to qld gov't police changes), dug through them and found that KH had purchased cocaine for friends a few times over a period, or once for several friends. This is likely his offence. A stupid and disappointing one, but it should not be the end of the road for him. I hope he learns from this.. Don't text, just call. ;)
 

Hans

Fred Wood (13)
If he is stupid enough to be caught doing something like this, piss him off, and use the salary he was on to pump back into grass roots and drug education. Enough of spending ridiculous amounts on people who don't want to act with a bit of common sense.

Any criminal charge should open an automatic clause to terminate the contract and get on with business. The QRU and ARU should not be wasting their time on dipsticks like this and providing a precedent that the next dick head to go and buy a stash of coke will get the same time and attention. Make an example of them and move on, set a decent culture up ASAP!
 
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Bobby Sands

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If this comes down to K having purchased cocaine for personal use, and nothing more. While incredibly stupid and unprofessional, would be an offense that many many current Australian rugby players have made, and will continue to make.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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I don't really see how the Reds can do anything but stand him down.

This matter is going to get much bigger before it goes away and the announcement of more names (the Titans players) are going to increase the focus, not disperse it.

It seems like a lose lose situation for the Reds but it surely can't be good for the team to have a player involved who has serious charges and intense media scrutiny hanging over his head all season.
 
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Bobby Sands

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The above is based on not much context yet in my opinion.

I have a feeling the Reds are going to dig their heals on over this. It is clear that the organisation loves the contribution K has made to the team, and this seems very out of character to say the least.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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. . . and what if the charges are dropped and no case found to answer?


They have to work with the information they have at hand.

It's pretty much a damned if you do, damned if you don't for the Reds and the ARU.

They also have to consider the impact sticking by him might have on the team as the scrutiny intensifies.

Innocent until proven guilty is all well and good, but that doesn't mean there isn't fallout and collateral damage when someone has been charged with a serious criminal offence.

Standing him down immediately is probably the safest decision to make.
 
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TOCC

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. . . and what if the charges are dropped and no case found to answer?

This is the issue, it's easy to say he should be sacked but what if he is found innocent and has no case to answer?
It's not like he bashed his wife and the evidence is clear and physical, we don't even know what the evidence is.

If found guilty then he is obviously sacked, but I think there's a case for unfair dismissal if he is sacked before been found guilty.


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