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Japan Super Rugby team

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Things are starting to look ominous for the Japanese Super Rugby team, whilst Argetina has slowly been assembling a roster test players the Japan team is yet to sign a single player. 30th June was a deadline for player signings but it passed without any announcements, when head coach Eddie Jones was pressed for comments he admitted no news was bad news.

Despite shortening and adjusting the dates of the Top Leage to suit Super Rugby, the complicated Japanese player market has hindered recruitment, currently Japanese played are employees of corporations and unwilling to talk to the Super Rugby team.

Eddie Jones hopes the announcement of a few marquee signings should be made in July, however for this team to be competitive it needs more then just a few marquee signings.
 
waiopehu oldboy

waiopehu oldboy

George Smith (75)
There's a Roy Masters (doesn't he hate Union?) on Rugby Heaven stating that just two (un-named) players have been signed. Extremely worrying if true, kinda undermines the credibility not only of the Japanese team but the rush to expand the comp. Not to mention that of whichever SA conf they're in...............
 
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Argentina have put together a strong looking team on paper so I don't think you can blame the expansion, it's just different dynamics for Rugby in Japan..

The one positive that Japan has is that the Top League season has been adjusted and shortened to finish before the start of the Super Rugby season. So there is the opportunity to recruit players from the Top League once the season finishes.

Let's hope it gets sorted soon, it's a key pillar for building rugby union support In Japan leading up to the 2019 RWC.

On a separate note, the new Japan National Stadium design for the Olympics and RWC GF has been scrapped, meaning the stadium won't be complete for the 2019 RWC.


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Dan54

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Yep Japanese WC committee apparently have to come up with alternatives reasonably quickly. I really worry about the whole Rugby cup in Japan thing, I know ARU have been trumpeting idea for a few years, just not sure it going to be that successful.
 
waiopehu oldboy

waiopehu oldboy

George Smith (75)
TOCC said:
Argentina have put together a strong looking team on paper so I don't think you can blame the expansion, it's just different dynamics for Rugby in Japan..
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So we can look forward to the two SA conf's comprising their usual three strong sides; the Argentinians; the Kings plus their other two not-quite-up-to-it sides; and Japan who may or may not be able to put together a semi- to decent roster. And we shouldn't be blaming the expansion?
 
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waiopehu oldboy said:
So we can look forward to the two SA conf's comprising their usual three strong sides; the Argentinians; the Kings plus their other two not-quite-up-to-it sides; and Japan who may or may not be able to put together a semi- to decent roster. And we shouldn't be blaming the expansion?
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As it stands Argentina is an example of where expansion can work well, Japan is an example of where it isn't working. The expansion itself isn't the issue, it's how it's managed in those countries. Each country has different dynamics and they are both in stark contrasts to each other currently.

In the long term Japan could provide a windfall through broadcast rights by been in a friendly Timezone with Australia and New Zealand.


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Omar Comin'

Omar Comin'

Chilla Wilson (44)
Japan get some fairly good crowds to their test matches when they play decent teams. No reason a Super Rugby team in Tokyo can't at least match the support of teams like the Rebels, Force, Brumbies, Highlanders, Chiefs etc.

The hardest thing will be building a passionate fan base given they're going to be playing so often in South Africa. And hopefully the attendances for the 3 matches in Singapore aren't embarrassingly poor.
 
Ruggo

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Should of made this side a combined south pacific islands side. Yeah the money is in Japan but the heart lies in these countries. We have all raped these nations for a long time and should have bought them into the fold.
 
wamberal

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
ChargerWA said:
By that metric, is Australia a rugby nation?
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By which metric? Australia has won two World Cups, we have beaten all the top rugby nations, three of our franchises have won the Soup.


Japan have appeared in every World Cup, and have won precisely one game.


They were probably relatively stronger in the eighties than they are now. We used to play Tests against Japan, now we don't.
 
Marcelo

Marcelo

Ken Catchpole (46)
TOCC said:
On a separate note, the new Japan National Stadium design for the Olympics and RWC GF has been scrapped, meaning the stadium won't be complete for the 2019 RWC.
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Doesn't matter. Japan has too many options like the Yokohama stadium (72k) in the suburbs of Tokyo

ChargerWA said:
By that metric, is Australia a rugby nation?
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Of course! Specially for common people who don't know the different between League and Union. :D

The American journalism always appoints to Jarryd Hayne like a rugby star and then you see hundreds of League supporters saying: "F*cking American, he's a League player, a different sport".

The common people can't differentiate between League and Union, especially those countries without rugby tradition (The most) for the eyes of the world Union and League are the same sport. So yes, Australia is a RUGBY nation ;)

wamberal said:
Japan is not now, and never will be, a rugby nation.

This will all end in tears.
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I agree. That's because they don't have the genetic needed to play this sport. They are too small for rugby
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
MHCS said:
That's because they don't have the genetic needed to play this sport. They are too small for rugby
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Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
MHCS said:
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I agree. That's because they don't have the genetic needed to play this sport. They are too small for rugby
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From the WW2 Archives. The British Colonial forces thought the Japanese were not very good soldiers in the jungle, and had "genetic" deficiencies as well.
The British commanders had a view of the Japanese soldier that they passed along to the Canadians as part of the orientation to their new surroundings, and it was incorporated into the 'intelligence reports' presented to the Canadians to make them aware of the 'situation' and the enemy they might have to contend with.
Even if the Japanese did attack, British Intelligence had information that there were only 5,000 poorly-trained, poorly-equipped troops, who could not fight at night because of the shape of their eyes, and besides they were prone to sea sickness. British Intelligence's assessment was that the Japanese were not much to contend with.
"The Japanese", the Canadians were told, "are badly trained, badly equipped, and physiologically unfit to fight. They are buck-toothed, slant-eyed, near-sighted, scrawny little people. Their slanted eyes make them poor night fighters, and prone to sea-sickness. Most of them have to wear thick corrective glasses. Because their diet consists mostly of rice and fish they are weak from malnutrition, and their stamina is poor. There are only 5,000 Japanese on the mainland at any rate, so don't worry. And besides ... they don't even look like soldiers. In their ill-fitting dung coloured uniforms, long leggings to their knees and rubber boots."
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/87/a4642887.shtml
 
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