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The difference is Julia Gillard doesn't live in orange
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The difference is Julia Gillard doesn't live in orange
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Sydney Middleton (9)
Hey Silent you are right Kings 16As did smash Stannies 16As, the Kings team was definitely the best I am told (wasn't there), most Stannies forwards copitulated to a degree (not all) & a couple of backs out promoted to opens. But they have regrouped. Cranbrook just beat them also which was a good wakeup call for them. So now they have their big 110kg Tongan Andrew (cousin's in Australia u20s) & their top halfback wounded & out, but Stannies is facing last year's winners tomorrow & can't wait. When those 2 players return Stannies will be on fire.
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Sydney Middleton (9)
St Pats's 16As backline looked good and their fullback was a very good ball runner, until Stannies worked out to keep the ball away from him instead of kicking it to him (they only did it once). St Pats did enter the Stannies red zone a couple of times, but St Pats ran into some torrid defence.
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Sydney Middleton (9)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:"La_soule_en_Basse_Normandie"_1852.jpg
A scrummage in a La soule game in Basse Normandie, France, 1852
Football games which included ball carrying continued to be played over the century, right up to the time of William Webb Ellis' alleged invention.
There were thus no formal rules for football during the time William Webb Ellis was at the school (1816–25) and the story of the boy "who with a fine disregard for the rules of football as played in his time, first took the ball in his arms and ran with it" in 1823 is apocryphal.
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Alex Ross (28)
Not greatly - no... But what is different is how many times a parent from Strathfield, Castle Hill or Brookvale would be asked to do it in a year... then keep in mind that a parent in Canberra would have to bring his kid up to Sydney for OAKHILL, PIUS, STRATHFIELD, AUGGIES and on to Bathurst and Orange as well... and not just for Rugby, but also for Cricket, for Athletics, for Basketball, etc...
Its not realistic. In many parts of the developed world, Sydney Canberra and Melbourne would be connected by a VFT... in some places it would go all the way to Brisbane... In Australia, we are letting our government get away with abject laziness in terms of Infrastructure - and we are getting left behind. In terms of Airports, Sydney is a running joke.
If the VFT ever comes in, and you can put 80-100 kids on a train with their parents and be at Parra or Central in an hour-to-hour-20, then this becomes a more realistic proposition, and I believe several of the Schools you mention would be a welcome addition to the Sydney Comps - the most likely one would be ISA - as the others appear to be a closed shop...
Most ACT parents would reasonably draw the line at being dragged-off to Sydney every other weekend under present transport options...
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David Codey (61)
That is twice a year,and once to Bathurst/Orange,which is actually a quicker trip than to Sydney.
I think some of the ACT Schools happily traveled to Sydney 2 or 3 times for early season trials this year.
I think some of the ACT Schools happily traveled to Sydney 2 or 3 times for early season trials this year.
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Alex Ross (28)
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and if one kid plays football, the other Rugby? - and they both play Cricket, and are in the Swimming or Athletics Team? and if one is in High School and one is in Primary? think it through... wishful thinking wont get you there.
... and dont get me wrong; I think with St. Gregs, St. Eddies, Marist and Canberra Grammar, ISA would be a competition the equal of anything else in Australia, with a solid 5-Fixture programme.
Unfortunately, it is still a fair way off...
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Fred Wood (13)
CCGS 72 def All Saints 7
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David Codey (61)
What does that have at all to do with anything?
Are you suggesting that on occasions they should delay the School 1st's because the wingers sister's netball game clashes?
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Allen Oxlade (6)
Pius 1st XV with the bye this week, so the match of the day at Oxford Falls saw the Pius 2nd XV versus Blue Mountains Grammar 1st XV.
Not sure of the end score as the score board wasn't operating throughout the day (point to Pius - parents aren't only interested in the 1st XV, so keep the spectators up to speed with the score) but it was a comfortable win to Pius by about 5 or 6 tries to 1.
Pius were bolstered with the addition of 3 top grade players who appear to have been dropped or in need of the extra run.
Uncontested scrums were probably a good idea because the Pius front row had an obvious size and weight advantage and the numbers 1 & 3 had strong games. The Pius backline had plenty of ball and made many clean breaks (especially in the centres).
One interesting point is the versatility of the Pius 1st XI soccer goal keeper who makes a natural transition to the rugby field (even after a game of soccer), showing blistering speed and scoring within a couple of minutes of being put on the field.
One frustrating part of the game was the number of stoppages for crooked lineout throws. We counted four in a row and more than 8-10 in the game. The frustration was that the ref then packed an uncontested scrum that seemed to take forever for the ball to come out.
It did spoil the spectacle for the crowd, but the boys played the game in good spirits, and BMGS were rewarded with a well deserved try on the final bell.
Rugby aside - the highlight was that at the end of the game the BMGS team gathered together and stood shoulder to shoulder facing the spectators and shouted "And 3 cheers for the parents" followed by 3 bellowing cheers.
Well done BMGS that was something special.
Not sure of the end score as the score board wasn't operating throughout the day (point to Pius - parents aren't only interested in the 1st XV, so keep the spectators up to speed with the score) but it was a comfortable win to Pius by about 5 or 6 tries to 1.
Pius were bolstered with the addition of 3 top grade players who appear to have been dropped or in need of the extra run.
Uncontested scrums were probably a good idea because the Pius front row had an obvious size and weight advantage and the numbers 1 & 3 had strong games. The Pius backline had plenty of ball and made many clean breaks (especially in the centres).
One interesting point is the versatility of the Pius 1st XI soccer goal keeper who makes a natural transition to the rugby field (even after a game of soccer), showing blistering speed and scoring within a couple of minutes of being put on the field.
One frustrating part of the game was the number of stoppages for crooked lineout throws. We counted four in a row and more than 8-10 in the game. The frustration was that the ref then packed an uncontested scrum that seemed to take forever for the ball to come out.
It did spoil the spectacle for the crowd, but the boys played the game in good spirits, and BMGS were rewarded with a well deserved try on the final bell.
Rugby aside - the highlight was that at the end of the game the BMGS team gathered together and stood shoulder to shoulder facing the spectators and shouted "And 3 cheers for the parents" followed by 3 bellowing cheers.
Well done BMGS that was something special.
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Alex Ross (28)
Excellent Billy - and does anyone else with an iPad or BB have any other further ISA Scores, for those of us stuck in the office?
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Alex Ross (28)
I am suggesting that - quite clearly - NONE of the schools in question exist for the purposes of staging Rugby Matches, and that furthermore, their parents likely do not send them there so they can be dragged off to Sydney every other weekend...
I am not sure about yours, but many Parents like to take an active part in their child's sporting activities - and if they have more than 1 child, they like to be able to get between a couple of different venues in a single day...
Your comments regarding 'sisters' and 'netball' suggest you are very young, and not very experienced in the responsibilities of parenting.
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David Codey (61)
Mate,I'm not promoting the idea, just disagreeing with your premise that it's not logistically possible.
It was a little naive to suggest that as you might have Primary School children as well.The School should take that into account when deciding what competition the entire School should compete in.
It used to give me the shits as well,when I had children participating in their sports 3 or 4 hours apart.
The other thing to consider is that if one or two Schools moved to the ISA, it would severely deplete the ACT comp.
It was a little naive to suggest that as you might have Primary School children as well.The School should take that into account when deciding what competition the entire School should compete in.
It used to give me the shits as well,when I had children participating in their sports 3 or 4 hours apart.
The other thing to consider is that if one or two Schools moved to the ISA, it would severely deplete the ACT comp.
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Alex Ross (28)
I would think it were a fundamental question in deciding whether a school would join / be accepted into a competition. The point was made simply to illustrate the fairly straightforward point that ACT Schools (which would likely do very well in a NSW-ACT competition) are not simply going to be doing "twice a year, and once to Bathurst/Orange".. it's a little more complex than that...
The issue relating to Primary Schools was connected to a scenario (and I don't know the make-up of the ACT Colleges) where say Oakill has no Primary, and Stathfield does (for example) and so an ACT Family might be heading to 2 different remote locations on the same weekend...
As i mentioned before, I do think its a really worthwhile idea - but not as transport stands between the 2 Cities at the moment... Logisitics can be organised - if they are utilised often, then they actually become easier.
It's TIME that is the real enemy; Strathfield, Pius, Oakhill or Auggies doing Orange or Bathurst every Year is no big thing - it becomes different if that becomes a trip every other week...
Some parents are cool with putting a kid on a bus and saying call us when you get back... other parents just aren't comfortable in that position.
As to it being 'not logically possible' - I don't think anyone has actually said that - I think that it's 'not logically likely' that a school with 800 - 1200 kids would get a majority of parents to agree to go down that road, as things currently stand travel-time wise.
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Herbert Moran (7)
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