Mate, if you hadn't noticed we spoke to the boy that was carded and we explained the issue to him. He was sent for repeated infringements around the ruck most notably for not rolling away and offside. It was actually the kids first game coming from League and his knowledge needs a lot of work. None of it was for dirty play as you make it sound from your post.
It is under 13s schoolboy rugby. Most of our kids are still learning so yes, we are going to issue instructions to assist them. It's nothing new. I played reps for Randwick and in their colts and we would have runners and coaches issuing instructions regularly from the sideline.
I've made a lot of allowances for refs so far this season. Most are younger kids with little experience. As long as its not dangerous I've been happy to let the game flow. If you had seen the first game you'd have noticed that. However, in the first game he was very consistent in his adjudication of the play. The second ref however, was much more experienced and inconsistent. Grammar were regularly on our side of the ruck laying all over it and were never pinged. They rarely threw in a straight lineout but got away with it. A ref is supposed to set the ten at that age, he never did. About the only thing I agreed with him was on the scrum. On the card, at that age you are supposed to play like for like which means we are supposed to be allowed to which him for another player but we weren't allowed.
You may say its about enjoyment. You're right. But our kids have just as much right to enjoy it as anyone else. The perpetuation of the same attitude of when I first played for the school isn't fair on my kids and you know what. I'm trying to win kids over to Rugby. I devote a lot of time to these kids. Run extra training sessions. Work on the basics and make it as fun as possible and I'm succeeding but having those who are meant to run the game on the field ping them for every and anything doesn't help.
We won because we were the better team. But we were not doing anything different than Grammar did except we were afforded a much shorter leash which frankly is unfair if you're going to set a standard early on you have to not only maintain it but also ensure that it applies to both teams.
Additionally, the co-coach who was going on to the field is fairly well versed in what we are and are not allowed to do in trial games and such, it was a trial game not competition so we were working on issues as the game proceeded. He only went on twice. It had no impact on the game and the ref had no issues with it.
We weren't abusive to any player nor spectator or the ref for that manner.
I'm going to continue issuing instructions and standing up for my kids if I believe they aren't getting an equal rub from the ref. I make no apologies for that.
You don't get it. Attempting to justify your abuse in this forum proves that.
If your yelling was not an attempt to get the ref to see things your way (I.e. intimidating) then it was irrational.
If "standing up for your kids" includes telling them the ref is hopeless or, worse perhaps, telling the ref he is hopeless so that someone 50m away can hear you then you need to take a Bex, lie down and consider your future.
You or your partner were warned during the game by the ref for your conduct. Whichever of you that was held his hand up in acknowledgment.
I'm not sure what your playing or coaching experience has got to do with this issue. If you care to tell me we can pursue the difference in our respective experience - given you have a kid brother in the 13's and my kid brother is 50 its pretty obvious who's been around longer.
Greg's were far and away the better team. Most of the boys from Grammar have never played the game prior to this season.
There is no competition,certainly, in GPS, in u13s. Cant imagine ISA do either.
You might want to consider that entering the field of play other than to deal with an injury is itself potentially intimidating - perhaps even to the other team as well as the ref: particularly for kids who have not played the game and whose parents dont take much persuading to think it is barbarous.
You must be aware that were it not for the very limited space on the eastern touchline, and/or if the SJRU rules applied, you would be required to be either, behind a rope or in the technical box and that encroachment could result in a number of sanctions.
You should give it a rest.
sit/stand behind the dead ball line: you get much less emotionally involved
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