Ireland v Wallabies, Saturday 15/11 (Sunday morning Aus time)

[Tomthumb]

I think we have to start accepting that if we keep employing world class coaches, and we do, and they keep ending up with a 40% win rate, then it's not the coaches.

Point B is they may in fact be overachieving with our player pool

Overachieving by losing back to back to Italy and having the biggest loss to Ireland in wallaby history?

 

[Tomthumb]

If coaching doesn’t matter, why have we wasted money on Schmidt and going to waste more money on Kiss. Just hire a local taxi driver for minimum wage

 

[rugbyAU]

Overachieving by losing back to back to Italy and having the biggest loss to Ireland in wallaby history?

And the most points conceded in a test last year and a record losing rate

 

[rugbyAU]

If coaching doesn’t matter, why have we wasted money on Schmidt and going to waste more money on Kiss. Just hire a local taxi driver for minimum wage

Fuck it, people on this forum can coach

 

[Yoda]

If coaching doesn’t matter, why have we wasted money on Schmidt and going to waste more money on Kiss. Just hire a local taxi driver for minimum wage

There are plenty of Green and Gold Rugby 'experts' who have all the answers!!

 

[rugbyAU]

I think we have to start accepting that if we keep employing world class coaches, and we do, and they keep ending up with a 40% win rate, then it's not the coaches.

Point B is they may in fact be overachieving with our player pool

They ain’t overachieving

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Bullshit. He’s a team leader. Expect more. id completely blame him if this is how his frustrations come out.

Not excusing him but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a frustrated group of players on tour now.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

If coaching doesn’t matter, why have we wasted money on Schmidt and going to waste more money on Kiss. Just hire a local taxi driver for minimum wage

Don’t think Kiss would have broke the bank. Local journeyman with no top tier candidates wanting the job. O’Gara whispered about it to probably shake the tree where he is.

The talent ain’t there to attract a top candidate to then deliver performances.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

There are plenty of Green and Gold Rugby 'experts' who have all the answers!!

THANKS

 

[KOB1987]

Not excusing him but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a frustrated group of players on tour now.

Yeah I think we may as well do what France do and send out a lot of our squaddies, at least they might play like they have something to prove.

1. Ross
2. Nasser
3. Tupou
4. Salakai-Loto
5. Canham
6. Hooper
7. Tizzano
8. Samu
9. Lonergan
10. Gordon
11. Pietsch
12. Paisami
13. Ikitau
14. Daugunu
15. Kellaway

And load up the bench in case France phone it in and we look like we are a winning chance:

16. Pollard
17. Bell
18. Ala'alatoa
19. Frost
20. McReight
21. Gordon
22. Sua'ali'i
23. Jorgenson

 

[Strewthcobber]

We are probably about to test what the player group achieves without a world class coach in charge.

 

[Bob Peters]

I used to think that maybe we get some ridiculously talented young guys like Edwin Langi, Eamon Doyle, James Martens and Dre Pskeho into the Wallabies after the 2027 World Cup. Well … let’s do it right now… why wait?

 

[Wilson]

Don’t think Kiss would have broke the bank. Local journeyman with no top tier candidates wanting the job. O’Gara whispered about it to probably shake the tree where he is.

The talent ain’t there to attract a top candidate to then deliver performances.

I'm hopeful that part of the point of getting a cheaper option in Kiss is to build out a more complete coaching team with experience around him - we've been relatively light on in the Schmidt era, possibly an over correction to excesses of Eddie.

 

[Tomthumb]

We are probably about to test what the player group achieves without a world class coach in charge.

They might lose to Italy, or lose to Fiji, or lose by 50 to NZ…

 

[rugbyAU]

They might lose to Italy, or lose to Fiji, or lose by 50 to NZ…

or Georgia

 

[Strewthcobber]

They might lose to Italy, or lose to Fiji, or lose by 50 to NZ…

It can always be worse than it is.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

I'm hopeful that part of the point of getting a cheaper option in Kiss is to build out a more complete coaching team with experience around him - we've been relatively light on in the Schmidt era, possibly an over correction to excesses of Eddie.

Hopefully. I can’t help but think RA will have to pay elite level salaries to attract mid level talent.

 

[rugbyAU]

They are, it's World Rugby's own rankings making that claim. A big win against a poor, error ridden Wallabies outfit did precisely zero to debunk that claim.

Posting this as a link instead of an image to avoid spoilers for those who haven't caught up on everything from overnight.

https://rawling.github.io/WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby)-calc/

they've lost twice this year

 

[Tomthumb]

It can always be worse than it is.

How exactly?

And it could always be better too. Part of calling someone a “world class coach” requires them to be held to a world class standard

 

[molman]

We are probably about to test what the player group achieves without a world class coach in charge.

Not to mention a few quality assistants like Cron and Parling who I feel both had a positive impact on our set piece. I'm not sure Donnelly or Ulugia have had as much positive impact since coming in. We don't seem to be as solid and/or consistent in those areas now.

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Lock depth falls away w Skelton gone
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Skelton brings impact, but truthfully I still feel that Frost is more important for some of the core roles like the lineout work.