Horne

[DPK]

Another week, another injury. Will Horne ever get over this terrible run of injuries?

He seems to get injured right before important matches, and has missed out on some very important opportunities.

Should the coaching staff return to the tactic of using him off the bench due to injury concerns?

 

[cyclopath]

Another week, another injury. Will Horne ever get over this terrible run of injuries?

He seems to get injured right before important matches, and has missed out on some very important opportunities.

Should the coaching staff return to the tactic of using him off the bench due to injury concerns?

He seems to have some sort of connective tissue disorder. I can't believe a professional rugby player, with all the facilities, expertise (I use this term loosely, it is the Tahs) and support available just cannot get his hip extenders right.
Such a shame, as the glimpses we have seen this year show the amount of talent, grit and toughness (of mind especially) he has.
Maybe he needs to do some yoga - I'm not kidding.

 

[DPK]

We can put a man on the moon, but we cant get Horne to stretch up :lmao:

Someone with a bit of know-how, will this be an ongoing problem ie. can he be "cured"?

 

[Biffo]

Another week, another injury. Will Horne ever get over this terrible run of injuries?

He seems to get injured right before important matches, and has missed out on some very important opportunities.

Should the coaching staff return to the tactic of using him off the bench due to injury concerns?

He seems to have some sort of connective tissue disorder. I can't believe a professional rugby player, with all the facilities, expertise (I use this term loosely, it is the Tahs) and support available just cannot get his hip extenders right.
Such a shame, as the glimpses we have seen this year show the amount of talent, grit and toughness (of mind especially) he has.
Maybe he needs to do some yoga - I'm not kidding.

Agreed. Horne has extraordinary talent, so try any- and every- thing. I have been hoping he will mature out of his troubles.

 

[waratahjesus]

i think it depends on him, him being his body. there are hamstrings that can be fixed by orthopodics in the shoes etc or a change in running style then there are those people who are just not quite put together right.

hopefully he is the former and he is getting all the help he can, he has so much potential and for someone that has realistically had so little out and out game time at the top level if he can stay fit for a year he could well be int he starting fifteen come world cup.

 

[Scotty]

I would be surprised if he doesn't already do yoga.

Maybe he needs to take it up a notch and do Bikram yoga (the kind you do in rooms heated to around 38 degrees).

 

[matty_k]

I've never sweated more in my life.

 

[Pfitzy]

Play cricket in 45 degree heat with a Norwester blowing off the desert.

 

[TOCC]

Mark Gerrard versionII

I thought Gerrard was going to be a great wallaby when he first came on the scene, however injury after injury stole away his speed and he never really lived up to his potential.

 

[Langthorne]

I just hope that the Waratahs are giving him all the right help, and the best help....maybe it is just bad luck.

 

[Lee Grant]

Agree - as I wrote elsewhere: I don't know that the Tahs have state of the art treatment for such things that an NFL team, for example, would have for a similar problem for one of their players. I don't know that they don't either.


On Mark Gerrard. Have known him since he was at Narrabeen Sports High. He was never very fast as a teenager and even for the Tahs before he went to the the Brumbies you could see he hadn't got any faster. He did deteriorate in his last couple of years though. It was a pity too because with all the aerial ping pong recently he would have been handy in a Wallaby squad, especially to be trundled out for a wet test match - like an NFL special teams player, though for a whole game.

 

[Nusadan]

I would be surprised if he doesn't already do yoga.

Maybe he needs to take it up a notch and do Bikram yoga (the kind you do in rooms heated to around 38 degrees).

Recommend it highly...tho' for a short time...say a month or two, fixed my ongoing shoulder problem../but, it gets too much to be doing the same 26 poses each time...I use one of them to warm down after a run or summat to stop my back from seizing up the next day!

 

[Jets]

When Link was at the Tah's he spent quite a bit of effort making sure Timtam fixed up his long term hammy problems. I would have thought they would try the same thing on Horne. I must say that with his limited game time he has quite the highlights reel. Would love to see him play an entire Super season.

 

[topo]

I just hope that the Waratahs are giving him all the right help, and the best help....maybe it is just bad luck.

My impression is that they have very good medical staff. Sharon Flahive and Tom Cross are the doctors and they are as good as any going around. Competition for jobs like this is very hot so I assume that the physios are top notch. And they have the connections to get them into the best that the Sydney medical scene has to offer.
I suspect it is a combination of the way he is built and the way he runs. Unfortunately once you get a bad hammy tear, the fibrous scar tissue that is left behind always leaves a weak spot and leaves you susceptible to further injury down the track.

 

[waratahjesus]

Agree - as I wrote elsewhere: I don't know that the Tahs have state of the art treatment for such things that an NFL team, for example, would have for a similar problem for one of their players. I don't know that they don't either.

the old NFL do it better stuff doesnt really apply, they have a different set of requirements for there players on the field than rugby does. plus there medical treatment is usually to pump in HGH or an aproved steroid to solve the problem.

 

[Scotty]

Play cricket in 45 degree heat with a Norwester blowing off the desert.

I have. Bowled 10 overs straight (pace) in 42 degrees one summer, and I can tell you it doesn't have anything on the sweat you can get up doing Bikram yoga. You come out of Bikram yoga looking like you've been running in a monsoon.

 

[Ash]

My impression is that they have very good medical staff. Sharon Flahive and Tom Cross are the doctors and they are as good as any going around. Competition for jobs like this is very hot so I assume that the physios are top notch. And they have the connections to get them into the best that the Sydney medical scene has to offer.

It's always hard to tell sometimes how effective medical staff are. Just because they are a professional sporting team does not mean their medical staff is any good. The Reds had former player Cameron Lillicrap as physio for years - and he was not anywhere near a top physio. Some might say he wasn't a particularly good one either, for that matter (which I would probably agree with, having been treated by him on occasion a long long time ago).

 

[topo]

My impression is that they have very good medical staff. Sharon Flahive and Tom Cross are the doctors and they are as good as any going around. Competition for jobs like this is very hot so I assume that the physios are top notch. And they have the connections to get them into the best that the Sydney medical scene has to offer.

It's always hard to tell sometimes how effective medical staff are. Just because they are a professional sporting team does not mean their medical staff is any good. The Reds had former player Cameron Lillicrap as physio for years - and he was not anywhere near a top physio. Some might say he wasn't a particularly good one either, for that matter (which I would probably agree with, having been treated by him on occasion a long long time ago).

Things have moved on a lot since those days.

 

[tranquility]

Cameron is quite a respected physio and a very good bloke too. His understudy Tom Hillier is one of the best physios going round in Brisbane. I'm not really sure what your on about?

 

[Ash]

Cameron is quite a respected physio and a very good bloke too. His understudy Tom Hillier is one of the best physios going round in Brisbane. I'm not really sure what your on about?

I've been to Cameron before in the past, and his partner Victor Popov was easily superior as a physio. Popov ended up at the Brisbane Lions, I believe. Having been to a lot of phyios in my time, I can say that Cameron was far from the best I have been to - although I last saw him 15 years ago. I have also seen a strapper and others who were not overly impressed with Cameron, and this was more recently.

And yes, he is a good bloke but that has absolutely nothing to do with his ability as a physio. So that has nothing to do with an argument of competence.

I assume you have been treated by Cameron and other good physios and have a basis to compare off?

By the way, Cameron's time at the Reds also coincided with lots and lots of injuries.