Herald Sun Article - Rugby boring

[kronic]

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@BrettKeeble: ARU 'major announcement' 2pm today. Apparently rugby union has been cancelled due to lack of interest & Wallabies will apply to join @NRL.

 

[Scoey]

Droll.

I guess you have to applaud him. As a league fan you wouldn't normally expect him to be able to crack a joke that didn't revolve around genitals or lighting farts. So insecure it's almost funny.

 

[swingpass]

Dropping the value of a penalty kick from 3 to 1 will not solve anything. All it will mean is teams will infringe at the ruck even more than now cause they are only giving away 1 point. What needs to happen is, a team can only take a shot at a penalty goal if the penalty is given *within* the 22. The kicker can take the kick from outside the 22 if he wants, but the infringement must happen in the 22. This would stop these 50m shots at goal constantly.

i have thought that one way to eliminate the deliberate penalty in the 22 is to take the penalty in front and then whether or not the goal is scored give the non-offending team the a scrum (or option of a lineout) at the spot. double jeopardy, 3 points plus the potential for & more

 

[rugbyskier]

i have thought that one way to eliminate the deliberate penalty in the 22 is to take the penalty in front and then whether or not the goal is scored give the non-offending team the a scrum (or option of a lineout) at the spot. double jeopardy, 3 points plus the potential for & more

I made a similar suggestion a few months ago in the thread "If you could change the rules of rugby what would you change". I'm pleased to see I'm not alone on this one.

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/co...hat-would-you-change.11038/page-4#post-373405

 

[hawktrain]

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This is why we Novocastrians read the Herald online now - so we're not giving our $1.40 to this muppet.

 

[BPC]

When you boil it down, cricket for example is an incredibly simple game

Then please explain the Duckworth-Lewis system.

 

[The Red Baron]

Then please explain the Duckworth-Lewis system.

Well, see, it is all about the amount of runs scored. If the first team scores some runs in an innings and it rains, then some sort of average is worked out, and then the second team bats to an average, or maybe a revised total, if you will. At this point, 50 overs become 35.4 and the fielding captain is able to move his field out at 6.2 overs, as opposed to 15 during a normal match. Then, what happens is the run rate is recalculated, for the possibility of further rain. When the rain does indeed arrive, the match total is further revised and the existing batsmen can count themselves lucky that they haven't been given out during the whole process.

Essentially, the Duckworth-Lewis system was devised to make it simple for captains and teams when calculating run rate required during rain affected matches. Rather than calculating the secrets of the universe, captains merely needed to grasp advanced calculus. From what I hear, a doctorate in mathematics hasn't been required in years.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Then please explain the Duckworth-Lewis system.

It's a method of choosing a winner that looks more fair than a coin toss.

 

[liquor box]

Well, see, it is all about the amount of runs scored. If the first team scores some runs in an innings and it rains, then some sort of average is worked out, and then the second team bats to an average, or maybe a revised total, if you will. At this point, 50 overs become 35.4 and the fielding captain is able to move his field out at 6.2 overs, as opposed to 15 during a normal match. Then, what happens is the run rate is recalculated, for the possibility of further rain. When the rain does indeed arrive, the match total is further revised and the existing batsmen can count themselves lucky that they haven't been given out during the whole process.

Essentially, the Duckworth-Lewis system was devised to make it simple for captains and teams when calculating run rate required during rain affected matches. Rather than calculating the secrets of the universe, captains merely needed to grasp advanced calculus. From what I hear, a doctorate in mathematics hasn't been required in years.

I have never liked that system, I would prefer that you take the first innings and subtract the highest scoring over, then the lowest scoring over, then the highest and lowest and so on until you reduce the number of overs and runs to the required amount. This way the batting team get the advantage of its great overs and the bowling team get an advantage for its maidens and better overs. This seems a lot fairer. I think the challenging part is finding a fair way of deciding on field restrictions.

 

[RDeano]

Well the fact the Australian team had a tour to Europe after the World Cup was a joke, these guys have had no decent break in the last year and are expected to provide entertaining rugby when they would be physically and mentally exhausted. Their is no wonder half the team is out injured at the moment.

European Rugby is booming, the ratings are stronger. This is why the RFU has tried to sell there broadcast rights separately. You look at a Leinster, Munster, Osprays, Toulon game and try get tickets when it's Heineken Cup and see how hard it is. The fans their even travel to away games in the hundreds (Cheap flights does help)

Even international games in these countries are impossible to get, where we had one sell out in Australia this year?

Would you know how the aussies would have gone around in Europe during their recent tour? Hopefully the 2013 Lions Tour next year is a sellout, that would be a +1

 

[KevinO]

Would you know how the aussies would have gone around in Europe during their recent tour? Hopefully the 2013 Lions Tour next year is a sellout, that would be a +1

All the Lions games will be a sellout, travelling supporters will bye all the spare tickets. Plus how many Irish and English are currently in Australia avoiding the recession, they will all be trying to get tickets.

 

[RDeano]

Good point point, let's hope that the aussies can relive the glory days of 2001 and beat the lions this time in front of more English & Irish fans. Lions Tour 2013, here we come.

 

[wamberal]

Good point point, let's hope that the aussies can relive the glory days of 2001 and beat the lions this time infront of more English & Irish fans.

The Lions fans swamped the stadiums last time. Let's not hope for more of the buggers, please. Enough is more than enough (although the few that I met, particularly in Sydney the day after the last Test) were gracious in defeat.