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Hard men of australian rugby

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bryce

Darby Loudon (17)
David Wilson. I reckon any decent number 7 who plays as many tests as he did must be up there. He seemed to be an honest, hardy and hard working player.

Also, surely John Eales must rate a mention. It might sound stupid to say that, but maybe it is his off field persona that makes it seem that way, and also because he was never involved in any thuggery. But he captained the Wallabies to plenty of grinding wins in plenty of close games, ones they seem to lose nowadays. He just seemed to have that mental toughness and composure to keep it together and to keep going no matter how hard things got.

In terms of backs, I remember Andrew Walker seemed to be able to pull off some massive tackles for a bloke his size. To be honest I don't remember that much of him, so he may well have been inconsistent, but I'll never forget him putting a massive hit on Tana Umaga in the dying stages of a Bledisloe Cup game where NZ were attacking close to the line and looked like scoring to snatch the game. Must have been around 2000-2001?
 
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TheTruth

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David Wilson. I reckon any decent number 7 who plays as many tests as he did must be up there. He seemed to be an honest, hardy and hard working player.

Also, surely John Eales must rate a mention. It might sound stupid to say that, but maybe it is his off field persona that makes it seem that way, and also because he was never involved in any thuggery. But he captained the Wallabies to plenty of grinding wins in plenty of close games, ones they seem to lose nowadays. He just seemed to have that mental toughness and composure to keep it together and to keep going no matter how hard things got.

In terms of backs, I remember Andrew Walker seemed to be able to pull off some massive tackles for a bloke his size. To be honest I don't remember that much of him, so he may well have been inconsistent, but I'll never forget him putting a massive hit on Tana Umaga in the dying stages of a Bledisloe Cup game where NZ were attacking close to the line and looked like scoring to snatch the game. Must have been around 2000-2001?

Wilson I agree with but not Eales - Eales a great great player but still cannot consider him a "hard man"
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Eales was a freakish all round athlete on the paddock and not necessarily a hard man in the traditional sense. However, Scarfy (I think) touched on it earlier in the thread: Nobody was extremely mentally tough and that counts for a huge amount in elite sport.
 
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Bradley

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Sorry Bruce...I didn't mean to touch a nerve. For goodness sake it was a joke mate. Lighten up.
 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
Sorry Bruce...I didn't mean to touch a nerve. For goodness sake i was a joke mate. Lighten up.

The rest of the forum can do what they like, Bradley, but there is no way I'll "lighten up" on an issue like this. It's like all the "abo" jokes I grew up with, no harm meant, just a joke mate. and the indigenous people as with homosexuals now were expected to just laugh along with it.

I'm quite happy to be out of step with other people on this.
 
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Goldenone

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Let's take a step back to a different era shall we ? What about Greg Davis,the old Dirty Reds break-away ( as they were called in those days),he absorbed some massive punishment ,especially fronm those across the ditch.Also,Andy Stewart from Norths ( not the same era though).
 

Empire

Syd Malcolm (24)
From a couple of guys I know well who have played for the wallabies recently - they will say unequivocally that Phil Waugh is the toughest and dirtiest player they've ever seen, played with or against. Because he can take it and dish it he is pretty highly respected amongst players.

I still feel his powers have been neutered since having his mullet reduced...
 

Galloper

Darby Loudon (17)
For the Queenslanders, Big Petero Civoniceva (the father of the leaguie of the same name) and Rambici Ganilau, who both played for Redcliffe in the 70's/80's.

Even Shawry was wary of Big Petero, a mountain of a man who did a short stint in jail for bashing a bloke who attacked him with a tyre iron after a minor traffic bingle....big mistake.
 

Johnny Blaze

Herbert Moran (7)
For the Queenslanders, Big Petero Civoniceva (the father of the leaguie of the same name) and Rambici Ganilau, who both played for Redcliffe in the 70's/80's.

Even Shawry was wary of Big Petero, a mountain of a man who did a short stint in jail for bashing a bloke who attacked him with a tyre iron after a minor traffic bingle....big mistake.

My sons coach played a few seasons at Redcliffe with big Petero Snr, mate has he got some stories about about that bloke. As hard as the come he reckons.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
Let's take a step back to a different era shall we ? What about Greg Davis,the old Dirty Reds break-away ( as they were called in those days),he absorbed some massive punishment ,especially fronm those across the ditch.Also,Andy Stewart from Norths ( not the same era though).

The Dirty Reds were not a particularly nasty club. The "dirty" apparently came from their early days when they had trouble organising a laundry for their jerseys, and often played in dirty strips.

Davis was a New Zealander, of course, which might explain why he was particularly targetted by our neighbours.
 
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Muttonbird

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[video=youtube;cOHRmmDkdBw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHRmmDkdBw[/video]

Michael Brial was more deranged than hard that day. I suspect he saw the red mist before taking to the field and wanted to make some sort of statement. I think the most distraught was Keith Quinn.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Only a Kiwi would bring up Michael Brial. Some of the worst punching the sport has ever seen.
 
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