Greyling gets two weeks

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Absolute nonsense. He is sitting on the ground after being cleared out. He is not by any stretch of the imagination "interfering with play".

I have read some tosh on rugby sites lately, but I think your bit takes the cake.

Oh FFS. I've just watched the clip again and even Justin Marshall uttered the words "interfering with play". He should have been rolling away from the ruck, which I might add he was at the side of. That's not where he should be and I stand by what I said. So tell me Einstein, how do you remove him from the contest legally in this situation?

None of this excuses what Greyling did and that is the main point of this whole discussion. He should have been red carded.

 

[Jay]

Oh FFS. I've just watched the clip again and even Justin Marshall uttered the words "interfering with play". He should have been rolling away from the ruck, which I might add he was at the side of. That's not where he should be and I stand by what I said. So tell me Einstein, how do you remove him from the contest legally in this situation?

None of this excuses what Greyling did and that is the main point of this whole discussion. He should have been red carded.

How was Tony Woodcock supposed to legally remove Fai'inga from behind that AB ruck a few years ago?

 

[Lior]

He's lucky to just get two weeks. But it goes to the heart of what is wrong with rugby, if referees aren't going to deal with players who repeatedly infringe then players will take the law into their own hands. Half of me thinks SANZAR were probably sympathetic to Greyling owing to the fact Richie McCaw was offside and off his feet contesting the ball.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

How was Tony Woodcock supposed to legally remove Fai'inga from behind that AB ruck a few years ago?

Drag him out maybe, and not commit the dog act of hitting him in the back when he wasn't looking? Saia shouldn't have been there, but Woodcock should have received the same treatment as Greyling.

In days gone by of course,you'd be able to ruck a bloke lying all over the breakdown, but some soft cocks in the game have banned that.

 

[ChargerWA]

Sanzar needs a formal grading system and standardised penalties, ASAP. For Etzebeth and Greyling to get the same penalty is an insult to the idea of fairness.

 

[Jay]

Drag him out maybe, and not commit the dog act of hitting him in the back when he wasn't looking? Saia shouldn't have been there, but Woodcock should have received the same treatment as Greyling.

In days gone by of course,you'd be able to ruck a bloke lying all over the breakdown, but some soft cocks in the game have banned that.

Fai'inga wasn't doing anything wrong, he was getting to his feet. McCaw wasn't actually doing anything wrong either - there's not actually any law against being on the ground in a ruck.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Fai'inga wasn't doing anything wrong, he was getting to his feet. McCaw wasn't actually doing anything wrong either - there's not actually any law against being on the ground in a ruck.

Both players were loitering in the ruck area when the laws if I understand correctly say that the player out of the tackle contest must roll away. McCaw was involved in the tackle and should have been moving away and rejoining through the gate. He did not.

 

[Jay]

Both players were loitering in the ruck area when the laws if I understand correctly say that the player out of the tackle contest must roll away. McCaw was involved in the tackle and should have been moving away and rejoining through the gate. He did not.

Not really - the laws say a player on the ground has to move away from the ball, not the ruck.

 

[cyclopath]

I'm not trolling anybody. I responded to a post claiming that the perpetrator was somewhat justified because " they were trying to get Richie away form an illegal position playing the ball off his feet, again." I pointed out that McCaw is doing nothing illegal.

I am defending my position vigorously but that is hardly trolling.

Settle, Damo. He was not inferring you were trolling, try reading what he said again.

 

[Dan54]

yeah you're right. Richie is a saint. never does a thing wrong...

You know Jiggles and Waylon ,I didn't realise you were knew so little about game, I go along with Dam0 and ask you to tell me what McCaw is actually doing illegally at that breakdown, he is on his feet until cleaned out by first player, and then sitting on ground nowhere need ball when hit. If perhaps you are trolling, you not very good at it, if not then and you really do agree with these acts in the game, you are perhaps better to follow other sports.
By the way am impressed or pleased to see Meyer (Bok Coach) coming out and apologising and saying how stupid it was, I think some other coaches over years could take a leaf out of his book from most rugby countries.

 

[The Red Baron]

Irrespective of the legality of Richie McCaw in that incident, the answer should never be a flying elbow to the face. There are more clever ways to get back at a player who is a pest at the breakdown. Greyling demonstrated how not to deal with the issue.

The whole incident highlights problems that really have nothing to do with Richie McCaw. First and foremost is the SANZAR judicial system. For Greyling to receive the same ban as Etsebet is quite concerning.

 

[Dam0]

Oh FFS. I've just watched the clip again and even Justin Marshall uttered the words "interfering with play". He should have been rolling away from the ruck, which I might add he was at the side of. That's not where he should be and I stand by what I said. So tell me Einstein, how do you remove him from the contest legally in this situation?

None of this excuses what Greyling did and that is the main point of this whole discussion. He should have been red carded.

Great, so you take your cues from Justin Marshall do you?

The reality of the situation is that McCaws actions in that breakdown (which was not a ruck by the way) was completely legal. He was on his feet contesting a ball that was in the air. He got marginally cleared away by a South African, and was sitting on the ground nowhere near the ball and not interfering at all in the play. There's no question of his having to roll away because he's not on the wrong side.

You just don't know what you are talking about, which leads you to making vacuous statements.

 

[BPC]

To be fair to Greyling and Vermuelen they were trying to get Richie away form an illegal position playing the ball off his feet, again. If the Ref isn't going to apply the laws of the game to a certain player, I can understand their frustration taking things into their own hands. although going in with a forearm to the chin probably isn't the best way to do it.

It's the difference between being a hard player and being a thug. Greyling and Vermulan landed on the wrong side of the line on Saturday.

I am a bit surprised that no one on the ABs seem to react. Usually that sort of play on a team leader is an invitation to an all-in.

 

[BPC]

Is Little Richie OK?

I thought he took a couple of blows to the head, not to the 'happy place'.

 

[cyclopath]

It's the difference between being a hard player and being a thug. Greyling and Vermulan landed on the wrong side of the line on Saturday.

I am a bit surprised that no one on the ABs seem to react. Usually that sort of play on a team leader is an invitation to an all-in.

They are very disciplined.

 

[BPC]

Great, so you take your cues from Justin Marshall do you?

I think most Kiwis agree that Justin Marshall is only an authority on how to be a prat.

 

[Brisbok]

I think most Kiwis agree that Justin Marshall is only an authority on how to be a prat.

Funny that, most outsiders think he is the most impartial of the lot and one of the best commentators going around. He also seems to be getting a lot of the big gigs these days, so he can't be doing too much wrong.

 

[Dam0]

Funny that, most outsiders think he is the most impartial of the lot and one of the best commentators going around.

He is the most impartial for sure. He still says some dumb things though, and on reflection this was one of them. At the time, Marshall probably thought that McCaw was up to some scullduggery, but it is clear on the replay that he was not. Some people seem to think that if a commentator has said it, it must be true.

I will give Marshall credit for at least trying to get it right though. I have heard that he is the only Sky commentator that is in contact with a referee who points out all his errors of law.

 

[FrankLind]

Shortly after taking that blow to the head, GOAT recovered the ball by being first to a penalty off the crossbar, subsequently leading to a penalty (with Greyling as the offender) and the Boks being denied a bonus point. Legend.

GOAT= greatest of all time

 

[Brisbok]

Shortly after taking that blow to the head, GOAT recovered the ball by being first to a penalty off the crossbar, subsequently leading to a penalty (with Greyling as the offender) and the Boks being denied a bonus point. Legend.

GOAT= greatest of all time

Jeez Greyling had a positive impact on the game from a Bok perspective! So happy that Meyer picked him on the bench and then decided to take Beast (who was having a decent game) off at the 50 minute mark.

Agree though, when Richie got to that rebound off the crossbar my immediate thoughts were: "Why the hell didn't any of the Boks dive onto the ball?!" and then..."how the hell did Richie get there?! He had to be (please let him be!!) offside!" and then... "oh no.."