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George Smith to retire!!!

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Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
I'll never forget his 21st birthday when he was MOTM in the 3rd Lions test - the game where Googie poached the series with a lineout steal near the Oz line 4 minutes before time and right in line with my seat. That's one trouble with starting so high so young: you have to leave the elite level sooner.

Nobody can blame Smith; he's done his bit. He will fetch top euro (I'm thinking: France) in Europe because all clubs need good players during the RWC campaign, the extensive training period before it and the recovery time after it. I don't think that Mortlock will be far behind him though there was talk earlier of the yen being the likely currency.

When Pocock is the same age as Smith he will be thinking the same. Even Bam Bam's body will be feeling the strain by that time and like Smith now, I'm sure: feeling the mental strain also.

Pocock overtook Smith by the end of 2009, though he'll never be the linker Smith was, but George's absence will affect our depth. Waugh may be a stopgap backup, but he is older than Smith and is more a tight fetcher of the Neil Back type - not bad in a tightly played test, but less valuable when the ball is moved a lot.

If not Waugh short term, it will be interesting to see who emerges as Pocock's backup. Nobody jumps out at you as a specialist fetcher and the best 2 talented schools fetchers since Pocock were still at school in 2009 and are years away. Don't expect them to develop at the same quick rate as Bam Bam. He was a freak who frightened opponents at school and the only schools player you could compare to him at that age was TPN.

As wj indicated: Deans could do an experiment and try TPN at 7 reserve in a inbound game this year, just to have a look. Nobody who saw him in the backrow for Oz Schools would disagree, though he was mainly a 6 or 8. Would be very hard to move off the ball methinks.
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
It's a big big loss but we have Pocock, Waugh, Hodgson & Salvi will come back so it's not a position that were are suffering for talent.

I wish he had stayed on for RWC2011 to help keep Pocock fresh & rested.
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
brown is a better player than hodgson and offers more versatility and brown shouldnt be a wallaby, Hodgson has played well for the force but lets not go crazy here.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Noddy said:
this might encourage the likes of Beau Robinson and Julian Salvi to come home too.

Putting this development together with the Rebels' entry I would hope that's a given. And Tomiki finally realises his potential.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
110 test veteran at the age of 29, well that is something special. He sure have a llot of rugby still in him, maybe take a year or two vacation and come back fresh and strong.
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
I'm not worried but it is just such a shame.

It was awesome knowing we had two 7s who would start for practically any other country.

We just need to squeeze this WC out of Waugh (as a reserve hopefully). We have some awesome young 7s developing.
 

JJJ

Vay Wilson (31)
Is he heading (with his family) to Europe? If so I hope he picks his team well, because I'll have to follow and support them.

A million kiwis were thrilled at this news... then a million kiwis felt a shiver of fear when they realized that the clock is counting down on Richie's career and they currently don't have the kind of world-class backup to him that we have in Pocock.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
I think he's done more than his fair share. Its tough enough working a 9-5 day with a young family and I can't imagine having to spend weeks away at a time.
 

JJJ

Vay Wilson (31)
What do you reckon the chances are that Phil Waugh will do a Stuart MacGill on us?
 

Cutter

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
More gutted at this retirement than of any other recent Wallaby. All time great.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
JJJ said:
What do you reckon the chances are that Phil Waugh will do a Stuart MacGill on us?

You mean "Tell the umpire to just hold my fucking hat and count to six" ?
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Staff member
Had a whisper that he ain't the only senior Wallaby on the verge of an announcement over the coming weeks.


This whisperer knew about the GS announcement before the press did, having heard it from other players, so seems legit.
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
also heard smith is most likely to head to japan, eddie ad larkham are spearheading a campaign to get him over there.

just want to ask the insiders who are saying there will be more, is this as gracious as it seems or are there a few people pissed off with the new regime and its all mighty power?, have a few people been tapped on the shoulder?
 
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Second row

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Sad to see him go, but I got the feeling he wasn't enjoying it quite so much over the past season or so.

I hope someone has been on the phone to Salvi - I'd love to see him come back.
 
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Rolling Maul

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Gonna miss him, all time legend of a player who contributed so much to Australian rugby. Top effort George.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Disappointed following George's earlier remarks about the Wallaby jumper. But more importantly he's chosen not to go head to head with the young bull over the next few years, with a World Cup coming up at that. However, what can one say with the riches dangled in front of these young men in Europe or Japan and the attendant lack of travelling compared to the Super 14/TriNations. Add the presence of NRL and AFL footy in Oz and we have, without doubt, the hardest and toughest rugby competitions going around. The Russian soccer competition stretches from St Petersburg to Vladistok, a mere pittance compared to the distance from Cape Town to Auckland.

I still feel disappointed we won't see his magnificent scavenging skills in a game of rugby close to me.
 

JJJ

Vay Wilson (31)
I hope he goes to Europe. At least then I could still watch him play. Is it possible to watch Japanese rugby matches? I wouldn't even know where to look.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Staff member
Gagger said:
Had a whisper that he ain't the only senior Wallaby on the verge of an announcement over the coming weeks.


This whisperer knew about the GS announcement before the press did, having heard it from other players, so seems legit.

Whisperer says they're a current Wallaby and NSW player
 
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