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Freier hits the nail on the head again

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Phil Kearns (64)
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Jeez I reckon he has assumed the mantle of most incisive rugby journo in Australia. Once again he is right on the money in his Sun Herald column.

Leaguies' flirtation with union just a cash crush

All this talk about rugby league converts returning to ''the greatest game of all'' and ''seeing the light'' is hard to take when you look at what has actually transpired.

First, Wendell Sailor. Well, he had no choice. He also had a career screaming for him in the media and has put rugby league back on the map as far as off-field entertainment goes. It is a credit to Wendell.

Timana Tahu struggled with the concept of playing off the bench and simply thought rugby was going to be easier than it was. Do you really believe he left union to take a pay cut? I can only imagine that Tahu, as a father of three, had a financial incentive.

Lote Tuqiri, who lost his contract, has received nothing but praise for his time in rugby, and why wouldn't he? He has handled every question designed to elicit a negative response to our game with grace and honesty. His union legacy will remain intact for that reason. Some people now say he is a rugby player converting to league.

Mark Gasnier, rugby league royalty, was in the form of his life when he said ''so long'' to St George Illawarra. He made it clear his conversion was a financial decision. Then there is the extreme case of Sonny Bill Williams.

Don't be fooled. Why would the greatest players in their sport flirt with playing rugby union?

Every NRL star coming off contact - Greg Inglis in 2008 and Benji Marshall in 2009 - plays the rugby card. Johnathan Thurston and Israel Folau have also shown interest. It becomes tiresome. Players such as Cameron Smith and Darren Lockyer should be paid more for not starting a media frenzy.

So why are all these players throwing their hats in the rugby ring? Leverage? The chance to travel the world and play for the Wallabies? The money? Here's your answer: rugby union does not have a salary cap.

Why wouldn't any young kid on the verge of professional supremacy want to play rugby? You read the criticism from some corners of the press that we are paid too much, but why wouldn't any parent want that for their children?

Every professional rugby union player has his education paid for by the Rugby Union Players Association. Basically, if you sign a contract, you have a scholarship for whatever field of study you desire.

The Australian Rugby Union is a pioneer when it comes to working conditions and player welfare.

Rugby offers the chance to travel across South Africa and New Zealand in our ''domestic'' competition, and the World Cup is watched by millions around the planet. And now with Argentina set join the Tri Nations, it has become an opportunity that only a golfer or tennis player would imagine.

If you finish the year successfully, we will fly you to Europe and you will play five times for your country in front of about 50,000 each week in Hong Kong, Rome, Paris, London and Dublin. Sound tempting?

Now if you show exceptional skills, speed, agility and endurance, we will give you the opportunity to play for a gold medal in a Commonwealth Games in rugby sevens; better still, if you are good at that, we will make you an Olympian.

Rugby's lows of the past 12 months are a hangover from a massive high in our game. Since the Lions tour in 2001 and the World Cup in our backyard in 2003, we saw the game hit crazy heights in 2004 and 2005. But a poor showing in the 2007 World Cup in France precipitated the downturn.

The crux of the matter is Australia has one of the toughest sports markets in the world. So how do we return to the summit? We don't compete with other codes; we concentrate on what is good in ours. We win back the fans who have wandered, and keep rugby's faithful and passionate supporters fulfilled with exciting rugby and silverware.

Current players need to do all they can to make sure we are accessible to schools and juniors. It is so important that the players accept being role models, and don't leave the responsibility for rugby solely in the hands of those sitting behind desks. We are all custodians.

In the meantime, performances on the field are paramount. The Reds, Waratahs and Brumbies are doing all they can. Let's hope they can all make the Super 14 finals to start a new ascent to the rugby Everest last scaled in 2005.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...th-union-just-a-cash-crush-20100410-rzqs.html
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
yeh i read it and just thought "wow" I think his new nickname should be "mr president"

also i didnt realise that the contracts all have education provided, great homage and reflection of rugby's amateur days there.
 

#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
shame the idiot went to the rebels. they are probably more interesting to write about though
 

James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
I read that and found it very interesting.

The bloke is a smart cookie for more reasons than one. That sort of information (like the free education stuff) needs to get filtered out to prospective players considering between rugby and league. It's a major incentive to try and get a pro rugby contract.

I can see that the irrational jealousy from one eyed tah fans has already begun re: the Rebels. I'm sure it will only be worse when we win a Super 14 Title before you guys :fishing
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
James Buchanan said:
That sort of information (like the free education stuff) needs to get filtered out to prospective players considering between rugby and league.

Now hang on a second James - league has an excellent edumakayshun program. It goes something like this:

Raping people = bad
Raping people with your team mates = badder
Raping people with your team mates then shutting up and letting one of them take the blame = OK!

:lmao:
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
NTA said:
James Buchanan said:
That sort of information (like the free education stuff) needs to get filtered out to prospective players considering between rugby and league.

Now hang on a second James - league has an excellent edumakayshun program. It goes something like this:

Raping people = bad
Raping people with your team mates = badder
Raping people with your team mates then shutting up and letting one of them take the blame = OK!

:lmao:

the funny thing is, if your an nrl rookie you go to an education camp for three days prior to trial matches, during that camp i believe they spend an entire day on morals and rules about women. If you were choosing between NRL and ARU surely having someone teach you rape is bad would sway you towards that game, not away from it tot he crew that already knew it.
 

James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
waratahjesus said:
the funny thing is, if your an nrl rookie you go to an education camp for three days prior to trial matches, during that camp i believe they spend an entire day on morals and rules about women. If you were choosing between NRL and ARU surely having someone teach you rape is bad would sway you towards that game, not away from it tot he crew that already knew it.

I don't think anyone is kidding themselves. Rugby League attracts players because they can guarantee an income more readily through the game.
 

AussieDominance

Trevor Allan (34)
Well if every professional rugby player get's his education paid for, what incentive do players have to stay at Sydney Uni?

As I don't think Uni is offering as much money compared to clubs like Randwick, Easts etc?
 

James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
AussieDominance said:
Well if every professional rugby player get's his education paid for, what incentive do players have to stay at Sydney Uni?

As I don't think Uni is offering as much money compared to clubs like Randwick, Easts etc?

I don't think professional rugby players need extra financial incentives from their clubs.
 

AussieDominance

Trevor Allan (34)
They may not but that's the reason they make moves to different clubs etc...

The only ones out of the Tahs squad I would guess that wouldn't be asking their club for any money/incentive would be ones who are local Juniors/been at their club since the beginning of senior rugby career which is nearing an end.

Baxter
Freier
Mumm(possibly)
Palu
Tatafu
Robinson
Waugh

Would be my bets...
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Aussie D - the difference is Sydney Uni can give those sorts of benefits to the semi-pro players, not just those on full contracts.
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
the funny thing is, if your an nrl rookie you go to an education camp for three days prior to trial matches, during that camp i believe they spend an entire day on morals and rules about women. If you were choosing between NRL and ARU surely having someone teach you rape is bad would sway you towards that game, not away from it tot he crew that already knew it.

Did anyone see Gavin Miller giving that class to young Cronulla players? I think it was four corners or whatever show brought up the Matty Johns incident in NZ.

Very interesting to see most of the class snigger when the 1st scene showed a group of players pick up a drunken women & when she is asleep the bloke that picks up lets one of his mates go in a dark room & shag her while she still thinks it's the original bloke when she realises that it's his mate she goes off & all the class thought that was pretty funny.

The mood changed when Miller played the 2nd scene & the same actor stumbles out of a bar & some bloke helps carry him to the taxi. The next part shows the player waking up in bed naked not knowing what happened & the bloke who helped him to the taxi taking a shower.

The look on the young players faces was certainly funny when they realised that they may also be a victim one day.
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
NTA said:
Aussie D - the difference is Sydney Uni can give those sorts of benefits to the semi-pro players, not just those on full contracts.

thats why i reckon the clubs need to independently go out to their local uni and affiliate themselves with it, everyone except the north shore and northern beaches clubs, southern and easts have a local

Penrith - UWS
Parra - UWS
Eastwood - Macquarie (across the road basically)
West Harbour - could affiliate with UTS
Randwick - UNSW
easts even could affiliate with UNSW

give them a bit of advertising space for discounts or sumthin and they'd be able to help eachother out, the unis now that ruggers are generally uni goers MAcquarie were on the verge of an agreement as primary sponsor with Eastwood before the GFC
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
AussieDominance said:
The only ones out of the Tahs squad I would guess that wouldn't be asking their club for any money/incentive would be ones who are local juniors/been at their club since the beginning of senior rugby career which is nearing an end.

Baxter
Freier
Mumm(possibly)
Palu
Tatafu
Robinson
Waugh

Would be my bets...

WHAT? Young fella, you obviously haven't read the facts posted on here about those thieving bastards from Broadway. Mumm played in the Eastwood junior competition (for Beecroft I think) and Waugh for the Rats, as a Narrabeen Tiger.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
RugbyFuture said:
NTA said:
Aussie D - the difference is Sydney Uni can give those sorts of benefits to the semi-pro players, not just those on full contracts.

thats why i reckon the clubs need to independently go out to their local uni and affiliate themselves with it, everyone except the north shore and northern beaches clubs, southern and easts have a local

Penrith - UWS
Parra - UWS
Eastwood - Macquarie (across the road basically)
West Harbour - could affiliate with UTS
Randwick - UNSW
easts even could affiliate with UNSW

give them a bit of advertising space for discounts or sumthin and they'd be able to help eachother out, the unis now that ruggers are generally uni goers MAcquarie were on the verge of an agreement as primary sponsor with Eastwood before the GFC

Well, that would strengthen the Japanese national squad.
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
dude, they're chinese, get it right....

also have you seen macquarie uni or eastwood in general? or chatswood (gordon)?
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
RugbyFuture said:
dude, they're chinese, get it right....

also have you seen macquarie uni or eastwood in general? or chatswood (gordon)?

My sister and brother both go to Macquarie, I've been informed they have Asians of all ethnicities.
 
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