KOB1987
John Eales (66)
I was trying to take a balanced view on all this but even I think Beale should have been left alone till next year. Really really bad move.
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I was trying to take a balanced view on all this but even I think Beale should have been left alone till next year. Really really bad move.
Except Beale he can go fuck himself. No respect for him. None and it's hard to support the coach when he doesn't care about the fans. Honestly it's a tough sell to keep both jobs for none Tahs fans. I know he won't mean to be bias but I can't think of any other coach who'd of brought him over. So as they call it.. 'A job for the boys' he definitely wouldn't have done it if say Beale played for the Reds last year.KOB - FUCKING EXACTLY CORRECT
What has transpired in the last month or two has well surpassed an 'off field incident'.
It's an overused expression but if what has happened with the Wallabies over the last little while, happened at the Reds I would be utterly gutted. No, actually I would be so far beyond utterly gutted. I don't know what I'd be.
There's a difference between supporting the Wallabies and supporting the 'suede elbow patch' institution that is the ARU..whilst I may not always agree with decisions of either, I'll always support the 23 blokes that run out in gold, whoever they are and whoever they are playing..
Another big up yours from the Wallabies to their supporters.
Good stuff from Cheika. Not being dictated to by petty provincial grievances or the whims of fans
I don't like this either. But the real stuff-up is in the resolution from a few weeks ago when Hawker and Pulver didn't get what they wanted. With Beale deemed eligible, this was always on the cards. And the outrage would have happened next year. I just don't see the urgency to get him over from a rugby POV, unless there are injury issues we are not being told about.
Clumsy stuff all around. Poor.
This is only on the cards because management is weak.
It's a no brainier.
Cheika says to Bill that he wants to bring KB (Kurtley Beale) over for the last 2 games.
Bill says,fuck off you named your squad,stick to it.
Simple.
For all his faults,no way would JON have allowed someone he wanted sacked in October,be added to a tour in November where there was no massive injury crisis.
Consensus management is fine up to a point,but leaders have to lead.
I would prefer if Beale wasn't in the squad, but could at least justify his inclusion if we had several injuries, but we dont. Seems to me Cheika intends to play beale at some point instead of the guys that have been on tour for the last month. that's really disappointing if its true. Cheika seems to just want to look after his Tahs.
he knows that he is more likely to retain his starting 12 next year if he includes him in the squad this year. Cheika is doing what he thinks is best for the tahs and not the wallabies.
Who wants to wager that the backline against England wont look like this
10. Foley
11. Horne
12. Beale
13. Kuridrani
14. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
15. Folau
I think Cheika was trying his luck.How is Cheika as a coach not misguided for thinking it's right to pick him, knowing the ARU's hands are pretty much tied?
Who wants to wager that the backline against England wont look like this
10. Foley
11. Horne
12. Beale
13. Kuridrani
14. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
15. Folau
Like I said. Different things for different people.
I don't want to get into it, because the reasons for my own decision are my own and shouldn't make one lick of difference to anyone else, but I will say that I am struggling to get behind a number of the 23 blokes in gold and the guy coaching them as well.
I appreciate that I may well be in the minority though.
I don't have any ties to any other nation (OK a touch of Germany and I have English roots 7 generations back - but I'm not going to support the soap dodgers!)..so I either support the Wallabies or I toss the sport all together..
If politics etc got too much in the way at the Tahs I could go support the Brumbies, or similarly at Easts I could go and support Randwick, etc, etc..at the moment I have more respect for the All Blacks than I do the Wallabies, but that doesn't mean they lose my support..
I hope everyone is just having a troll, surely Beale isn't going over, FFS Aussie rugby takes some time to learn don't they??
And if Shatz is good enough to be a test player at top level, I would be very surprised, I actually like Shatz playing for Reds, but belive he one of these players who has found his level there as a good S15 player!
Whilst criticism can be levelled at multiple persons I still support anything in green & gold, from Netball, Swimming, League, and even friggin' Soccer
He hasn't been fined, he's been "fined".C'on guys and girls. The bloke has been fined, is contrite.