England v Australia, Saturday 3 December
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Rip 'em a new one
Bob McCowan (2)
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Jason Little (69)
I have to disagree amirite. Fardy just isn't a second rower at either test or Super Rugby level. He shouldbe in the No 6 spot against England, wotking in concert with Pocock in the open.
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
That's an ugly mug. Will be interesting to see him match up with Robertson late in the piece. I reckon Cheika will keep the staring back row on as long as possible in this one.
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Jason Little (69)
These are the issues the Wallabies will have to overcome to beat the Poms.
1. A reported 30kg deficit in the scrum;
2. An opposition front row with questionable scrummaging technique;
3. A bench front row that looks to be several levels below the starting trio;
4. A questionable line out. Douglas not a reknowned jumper and Timani still looking to develop in the lineout;
5. The Pooper having poor contribution to scrum and lineout;
6 No Will Genia;
7. More disruption to the backline defensive patterns with introduction of Naivalu;
8. Lower quality players on the bench and coaches' apparent reluctance to use the bench productively.
Will the Wallabies be able to cope? Dunno, but if not, this could well end up being one of the biggest losing margins of the year.
1. A reported 30kg deficit in the scrum;
2. An opposition front row with questionable scrummaging technique;
3. A bench front row that looks to be several levels below the starting trio;
4. A questionable line out. Douglas not a reknowned jumper and Timani still looking to develop in the lineout;
5. The Pooper having poor contribution to scrum and lineout;
6 No Will Genia;
7. More disruption to the backline defensive patterns with introduction of Naivalu;
8. Lower quality players on the bench and coaches' apparent reluctance to use the bench productively.
Will the Wallabies be able to cope? Dunno, but if not, this could well end up being one of the biggest losing margins of the year.
tragic
John Solomon (38)
And now Timani is starting against a stronger lineout.
So is that an admission by Cheika he f@#ked up the team selection against Ireland..
The sage
Vay Wilson (31)
Personally I think Phipps starting (even though a Tah) is an added bonus for the team.
The bloke is a real team man (and others in the team are not) and brings immense enthusiasm onto the paddock. He may do a shitty thing or 2 but so does Genia.. He just seems to love playing rugby.
Really scrubber? Last biscuit left in the tin I think. The guy is not a long term option. Gets caught out on being too slow to breakdown (couple of times a game) and wrong options often. Need some new blood here....
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KOB1987
John Eales (66)
These types of comments always make the assumption that the player you would have chosen would have done a better job than the one you wouldn't have. You can say it with some conviction after the event in this instance because Mumm didn't shower himself in glory last start, and maybe Timani wouldn't have gotten a yellow card, but maybe we would have lost 3 lineouts. It's also making the assumption that Timani was fit and available, I'm making the assumption that he wasn't.
For the record the England lineout isn't superior to the Ireland one. They have more mongrel though.
dru
David Wilson (68)
I'd rate the English line out out highly with Itoje but must agree with your assessment as they stack up this weekend. So we opt for a back three with better mongrel than jump.
I dont have a problem with it. But that doesnt make me a tad anxious about it. Happy to see Mumm on the pine (would have also settled for Fardy.)
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
He is faster to the base and to clear the ball which speeds our play up. Sometimes thats not great because our offensive line is not set and he can push the play into an error. On the other hand, in order to catch the English defense out we are going to need to play very fast at times.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Mmmmmm. On the one hand, maybe. On the other, maybe not.
We are playing for sheep stations, they are playing for their fourth win against us this year, which means very little in the scheme of things.
If our team does not go out and draw blood, figuratively speaking, we had better find a new team.
Scotty
David Codey (61)
Fast play sounds like the game plan to me. Mobile back row and mobile forward reserves. All comes down to the effectiveness of the clean out though!
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Prithee, o steed of Canberra, what deeds must he achieve in order to win such renown?
Clean the stables of King Augeus?
Slay the Lernean Hydra?
Wear the skin of the Nemean Lion?
Or, failing that, a Brumbies jumper?
He's over 2m and can be lifted. He has taken lineouts. Is there something about lifting a 2m bloke in this case that is different to e.g. Arnold or Simmons?
I mean, let's face it: Simmons has long been touted as a lineout general, and there is less to support this myth than any of the Herculean tasks I posted above.
They'll both do fine.
Twoilms
Trevor Allan (34)
This is a weird comment. Phipps basically only advantage over Genia is hes faster to the breakdown and faster to get a pass away. Genia is better in all other areas.
tragic
John Solomon (38)
Fair enough.
But a number of us did make the call before the game so it's not just with the benefit of hindsight.
And the Irish lineout was weakened by injury. I think the English one this weekend is stronger and will give us more trouble.
Particularly with 3 no 7s in the lineup (which I think is a bigger weakness that an 8 who has impact but is only an average jumper)
USARugger
John Thornett (49)
They're playing for an undefeated 2016.
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
Yeah that's all true and all things being equal I also would prefer Timani in the lineup to Mumm every game. I'm just making an inference that because he sat out the France game and also the Ireland game after being the starting 8 for the first two games and is now again, that perhaps he wasn't actually dropped. He may have had a niggle or even maybe they just decided he was stuffed and needed a freshen up (after all 9 runs for 6m v Scotland was hardly the performance you want from your line bending #8).
Anyway, I'm overall happy with this side. I think McMahon is there for injury cover only to Hooper or Pocock, and although there are some circumstances that would see the 3 of them on the field at the one time I think it's unlikely except for maybe a few minutes at the end.
Wallabies by 8.
tragic
John Solomon (38)
Or, failing that, a Brumbies jumper?
I mean, let's face it: Simmons has long been touted as a lineout general, and there is less to support this myth....... blah blah blah.
The sage
Vay Wilson (31)
Well go back over the last 3-4 games he's started and count how many times there were turnovers at our ruck because "he's so fast" and not there. That's one of the reasons why Genia's there in the first place, oh and not as many wrong options as well
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