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Eddie Jones Stormers, No, Wait, England coach

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Mark Ella (57)
Offset by his complete disregard for the scrum and it's importance. He wasn't all of the problem but he certainly didn't help. And we are only now recovering from those decisions.


I do agree to a certain extent. It was a risk, but one I understand given the number of scrums in a match compared to say lineouts. Perhaps it is the case that Jones looked at the risks v rewards of sacrificing scrum dominance and seeking only secure ball and chasing the extra flanker skills that players like Bill Young brought.

Really it was a continuation of Macqueen's Wallaby selection of Dick Harry at LHP and for the same reasons. Now Harry was a far better scrumager yes, but it the analogy holds. What I hated about the Jones plan from 2003 onwards was the zoning of the field and strict structures of it. Along with that came the homogeneity of the backline which valued size over ability at every step. That in itself was a continuation of the Macqueen method. Certainly the dynamism and imagination in the Australian backline virtually disappeared in the Macqueen era for the endless recycle game.

There can be no doubt that Jones is a top level coach. The improvements in Japan prove that beyond a doubt, as the side as improved in so many areas which have never been a strength so that they are not the glaring liabilities they were.

Talking of the scrum for instance it is obvious that Jones learnt from his his mistake with the Wallaby scrum and showed the value he placed on it by bringing in Dal Maso. Also the removal of the hit has also allowed the skills of scrummaging to be brought back to the fore instead of just the individual skills of the props to dominate on the engagement and that allows a smaler side like the Japanese to be able to compete with skills, something which they have never been shy of.
 

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John Hipwell (52)
Offset by his complete disregard for the scrum and it's importance. He wasn't all of the problem but he certainly didn't help. And we are only now recovering from those decisions.

The guy hasn't coached the national team for 10 years. Not sure it is still fair to blame him for the problems since then. Dunning, Cannon, Fitter and Baxter were the front rowers in his last test in charge.
 

dru

David Wilson (68)
Thought the Blossums scrum, giving away 50kg (?), was awesome. He's had 10 years to progress. I'll be watching the Stormers next season for sure.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Thought the Blossums scrum, giving away 50kg (?), was awesome. He's had 10 years to progress. I'll be watching the Stormers next season for sure.

Not taking Borthwick with him. Eddie can't coach a scrum.
 

dru

David Wilson (68)
Jeez Louise, did he work with a scrum coach in Japan or not? You think they are not capable of finding a scrum assistant in Cape Town?

The complaint is he didn't value the scrum back in (something like) 1823, this time round with the Japanese is it the same?

Crumbs, talk about holding a grudge.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Changed the heading: Jones will arrive this week

IOL
Eddie Jones will start his preparations for next year’s Super Rugby campaign on Monday.

The new Stormers coach is set to arrive in Cape Town later this week after leading Japan to three wins at the Rugby World Cup, which includes their giant-killing act over the Springboks in the teams’ first match of the tournament.

The Western Province players, who lost to the Golden Lions in Saturday’s Currie Cup final, have been given time off and will return on November 14 to plan their onslaught on the revamped competition.

The Stormers’ Boks who played at the World Cup will have an extra few weeks off, while the likes of Schalk Burger, Damian de Allende and Eben Etzebeth will join the team shortly before the start of the season after signing short-term contracts in Japan.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Fixtures
STORMERS

ROUND 1

Saturday 27 February: Stormers v Bulls DHL - Newlands, Cape Town

ROUND 2
Saturday 5 March: Cheetahs v Stormers - Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein

ROUND 3
Saturday 12 March: Stormers v Sharks - DHL Newlands, Cape Town

ROUND 4
Saturday 19 March: Stormers v Brumbies - DHL Newlands, Cape Town

ROUND 5
Saturday 26 March: Argentina v Stormers - TBC

ROUND 6
BYES: HURRICANES, REDS, SHARKS, STORMERS

ROUND 7
Friday 8 April: Stormers v Japan - DHL Newlands, Cape Town

ROUND 8
Saturday 16 April: Lions v Stormers - Emirates Airlines Park, Johannesburg

ROUND 9
Saturday 23 April: Stormers v Reds - DHL Newlands, Cape Town

ROUND 10
Saturday 30 April: Stormers v Waratahs - DHL Newlands, Cape Town

ROUND 11
BYES: ARGENTINA, LIONS, REBELS, STORMERS

ROUND 12
Saturday 14 May: Japan v Stormers - Singapore National Stadium, Singapore

ROUND 13
Saturday 21 May: Bulls v Stormers - Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria

ROUND 14
Saturday 28 May: Stormers v Cheetahs - DHL Newlands, Cape Town

ROUND 15
Saturday 2 July: Rebels v Stormers - AAMI Park, Melbourne

ROUND 16
Saturday 9 July: Force v Stormers - nib Stadium, Perth

ROUND 17
Saturday 16 July: Stormers v Kings - DHL Newlands, Cape Town
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Player movement:
Players Lost:Steven Kitshoff - Bordeaux
Neil Rautenbach - Cheetahs
Manuel Carizza - Racing
Michael Rhodes - Saracens
Demetri Catrakilis - Montpellier
Patrick Howard - Northampton Saints
Duane Vermeulen - Toulon
JdV - Leicester

Added:
JC Janse van Rensburg (prop)
Pieter-Steph du Toit (lock)
Cornal Hendricks (wing)
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
He's coaching the Stormers, not the Lions.
Russel Winter from the Lions it is.
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Winter-to-add-massive-value-to-Stormers-20151028
Winter to add ‘massive value’ to Stormers

2015-10-28


Cape Town - Western Province Director of Rugby Gert Smal has welcomed the acquisition of Russell Winter as the Stormers' new forwards coach.
Winter will join WP Rugby as of November 1, 2015, which will see him serve as the Stormers'forwards coach under new boss Eddie Jones.
Winter - who played at Super Rugby level for the Cats and Sharks - will make the move to the Cape after coaching the Golden Lions’ Under-21 and Vodacom Cup teams between 2011 and 2015.
“We have followed Russell’s career very closely and believe he can add massive value at Western Province Rugby,” Smal told the Stormers’ official website.
“He brings huge tactical nous, having worked as an assistant and head coach for some time now, and is technically very strong in all aspects of forward play. I look forward to seeing how he fits into Eddie’s coaching team.”
Winter, who turned 40 in July, will work under Jones in the new-look Super Rugby competition, serving as an assistant coach alongside Robbie Fleck (attack) and Paul Treu (defence), with Vlok Cilliers continuing in his role as kicking coach.
Winter will also be involved with the Western Province team at Currie Cup level, where he will join John Dobson (head coach) and Dawie Snyman (attack), as well as Treu and Cilliers, on the coaching staff
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
WP achievements in 2015
WP site
AT A GLANCE – SOME 2015 HIGHLIGHTS FOR WP RUGBY:

– DHL WP Vodacom Cup team – top of the South log, losing finalists.
– DHL Stormers – SA Conference winners (third time in five seasons) and losing quarterfinalists.
– DHL WP Absa Currie Cup team – finished third on the log but made a fourth final appearance in a row (and fifth in six seasons) after a memorable away semifinal victory over the Blue Bulls. (Province have won the Currie Cup on 33 occasions, more than any other union.)
– DHL WP Under-19 team – finished third on the Absa Provincial U19 log and lost in the semifinals.
– DHL WP Under-21 team – finished first on the Absa Provincial U21 log and won their final in convincing fashion.
– DHL WP success at Under-13 Craven Week, Under-18 Academy and Under-18 Craven Week level. The U16 Grant Khomo team lost just one match in 2015.
– DHL WP Girls teams dominated their Under-16 and Under-18 youth weeks – going unbeaten in both.
– DHL WP Under-17 Boys Sevens team secured back-to-back SARU Under-17 Interprovincial Sevens titles at the 2015 tournament which was held at Paarl Gym. Two WP U18 players, Johan Visser and Damian Willemse, were also part of the Youth Commonwealth Games winning SA Under-18 Sevens squad.
– WP’s Ernst van Rhyn was chosen as the 2015 SA Schools captain – in all, 17 WP schools players made it into the SA Schools or SA Schools A U18 squads this year.
– DHL Stormers veteran Schalk Burger – who played his 100th Super Rugby match this season – won the 2015 World Comeback of the Year Award at the Laureus World Sports Awards, winning back his Springbok place after contracting bacterial meningitis and flirting with death.
– 2015 DHL Stormers captain Duane Vermeulen won the 2014 SA Rugby Player, Players’ Player and Super Rugby Player of the Year Awards in February of this year – the biggest rugby awards on offer in SA.
– Seven WP Rugby players – Frans Malherbe, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Duane Vermeulen, Schalk Burger, Jean de Villiers (captain) and Damian de Allende – were selected in the 2015 Springbok RWC squad.
– Nine DHL WP junior players – Frans van Wyk (prop), Rikus Bothma (flank), Jacques Vermeulen (flank), Daniel du Plessis (centre), EW Viljoen (centre), Grant Hermanus (wing/fullback), Khanyo Ngcukana (wing/fullback), Brandon Thomson (flyhalf) and Leolin Zas (wing) – represented the Junior Springboks at the 2015 World Rugby Under-20 Championship in Italy in June.
– DHL WP/Stormers wing Seabelo Senatla finished the 2014/15 season as the leading try-scorer on the World Sevens circuit with a staggering 47 tries, which saw him selected in the World Rugby Sevens Dream Team, as well as being nominated for the 2015 World Rugby Sevens Player of the Year Award. (The winner will be announced at the World Rugby Awards dinner on Sunday, November 1 – following the 2015 Rugby World Cup Final.)


New signings announced for 2016:
– JC Janse van Rensburg (prop), Pieter-Steph du Toit (lock), Cornal Hendricks (wing).

Springbok re-signings ahead of 2016:
Frans Malherbe, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Schalk Burger, Damian de Allende.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
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New Stormers coach Eddie Jones says he wants them to play a brand of rugby that attracts people to come watch them.
After arriving in Cape Town last week, Jones held his first press-conference as Stormers coach at Newlands on Thursday.
Speaking about the challenge ahead, Jones said: "It's a fantastic city. Western Province is one of the most prestigious unions in the world - there is so much history here.
"When the opportunity came up to coach the Stormers - such a well-supported team, the best in the competition - it was simply too good to ignore. Of course, the ultimate aim is to produce a good team that attracts people to the stadium and, ultimately, challenges to win trophies.
"It's great to be here, I'm thankful to Gert (Smal, Director of Rugby) for the opportunity and I'm excited about it."
Jones also hinted at the type of game style the Capetonians would adopt.
“If you want to play attacking rugby you have to have skill… catch and pass. That's the player we want to develop.”
Jones, 55, guided Japan to three wins at the recent Rugby World Cup in England, including their stunning triumph against the Boks.
 

Baldric

Jim Clark (26)
Looking forward to see what he can bring to the Stormers who do have an amazing amount of talent in the squad. I hope Eddie gets them to break the usual SA style of playing
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Looking forward to see what he can bring to the Stormers who do have an amazing amount of talent in the squad. I hope Eddie gets them to break the usual SA style of playing
We are all optimistic, not only the Stormers but also the Bulls & Sharks with their new coaches seems to change from high kick and charge. Meyer is still stuck with that kak.

More detail from WP site
New DHL Stormers head coach Eddie Jones is one of the most experienced - and decorated - coaches in world rugby at present, but he is still very honoured at the prospect of taking up the reins of the Cape Town-based Vodacom Super Rugby franchise.
Jones, 55, was officially unveiled to the Cape Town media at DHL Newlands on Thursday and he spoke of his excitement of taking up a job at the best supported team in the new-look southern hemisphere competition.
“It’s an honour to have this opportunity to coach one of the oldest and most prestigious teams in the world,” said Jones, who was greeted by a huge amount of journalists on Thursday – his first appearance since moving to Cape Town late last week.
“Cape Town is a fantastic city. Western Province is one of the most prestigious unions in the world – there is so much history here the stadium (DHL Newlands). When the opportunity came up to coach the DHL Stormers – such a well supported team, the best in the competition – it was simply too good to ignore.”
Style of play is always a huge talking point and when asked about his philosophy, and the possible direction he would be leading the DHL Stormers into over the next few seasons, Jones revealed: “We have a very young squad here, but we’ve got to play some good rugby over the next couple of years.
“In my mind, what has to change is the way we attack. You want to take that traditional South African base of uncompromising physicality and set-piece strength and add some Western Province flavour.
“I have a history of producing attacking teams with the Brumbies and Japan (who beat the Springboks at the 2015 Rugby World Cup). It will take time to work with all the players here and get them to understand the way we want to play. (For instance) it took three years at the Brumbies. Hopefully it won’t take that long here, otherwise I might not be here (in the job)!
“(But) I can’t say how long it will take. Sometimes you get a good result early in the season and pick up confidence. Other times you lose and it can take you longer to develop. Ultimately, by the end of next season I want us to be playing a distinctive Stormers style of rugby.​
“I don’t want them to play like the Brumbies or Japan, I want them to play like the DHL Stormers. The aim is to win a trophy, but I want the team to light up DHL Newlands in the process.”
Jones will take over a team that excludes experienced Springbok stars Duane Vermeulen and Jean de Villiers – both of whom are, or will be, playing abroad – as the DHL Stormers head into a brave new era.
Of course, there is still some incredible talent within the union, as the young – average age of 22.6 – DHL Western Province side proved during the 2015 Absa Currie Cup competition and they will compliment new high-profile signings, JC Janse van Rensburg (prop), Pieter-Steph du Toit (lock) and Cornal Hendricks (wing), all of whom are yet to play Super Rugby for this region, as well as Bok young guns, Frans Malherbe, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi and Damian de Allende.
Jones told the www.iamastormer.com website: “We haven’t got too many blokes with a scarcity of hair, it’s a very young squad. We’re going to have to develop these players slowly.
“(But) if you look across the squad, we’ve got good front-rowers, someone like Frans Malherbe was exceptional at the World Cup, so you’ve got the base of a good scrum.
“Then you’ve got Eben Etzebeth and Pieter-Steph du Toit in the second row, so you’ve also got the base for a good line-out. In the back row, you’ve got Schalk Burger, Siya Kolisi, Rynhardt Elstadt and Nizaam Carr, so there’s good depth there. Then the backs are exciting, and the depth is exceptional. So we’ve just got to get them to understand how we want them to play.”
With Demetri Catrakilis now in France, there is a potential selection gap at flyhalf as Kurt Coleman and young guns Robert du Preez and Jean-Luc du Plessis look to make the No.10 shirt their own in 2016 and seasons to come, perhaps.
“They’re obviously young guys,” said Jones when asked about his halfback – scrumhalf and flyhalf – options. “We’re just going to have to work with them.
“You saw someone like Dan Carter… he probably played his best rugby, his most consistent Test rugby, from 28 to 33 when he’s been through it all and learnt all the mistakes.
“We’re looking at 20/21/22-year-old guys. They’re going to go through some pain and we have to accept that and allow them to go through that pain, and then they’ll be very good players. But the reality is that there’s no shortcut to developing good No.9s and No.10s.”
 
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